What Should Be Done About Boston College?

220px-Boston_College_Seal.svgOnce again Boston College has openly defied Church teaching by honoring the radically pro-abortion Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny at the annual commencement ceremony.  Cardinal O’Malley is quoted as saying that he was “sure that the invitation was made in good faith, long before” Kenny’s legislative action “came to the attention of the leadership of Boston College.”

With all due respect to Cardinal O’Malley, who is a holy man and deeply devoted to the pro-life cause, I am clearly perplexed as to why he would allow the administration at Boston College to honor Enda Kenny, despite his strong objections.  In all fairness, Cardinal O’Malley is not the only prelate who has been in this unenviable position in recent years.  Each year many purportedly Catholic institutions honor individuals at commencement ceremonies whose ideologies are in complete contradistinction to Catholic teaching.  It is quite evident that the mere absence of a bishop or cardinal at a commencement exercise honoring persons with anti-Catholic positions is not very effective.  The person is still honored, and all the graduates and their families are present for the event, giving credence to the honoree.

There must be some disciplinary action taken to prevent these scandalous situations from taking place in the future.  I question who is directly responsible for inviting speakers and honorees to graduations in Catholic institutions of higher learning.  Why do they not submit a request for approval in a timely fashion to the bishop or cardinal?

As a public school teacher for 29 years, I always had to submit a request for a guest speaker in my classroom.  I needed to include reasons why my students would benefit educationally, culturally, and ethically from their encounter with the prospective guest.   First, I would submit my request to my principal for approval.  Then, the principal would submit it to the superintendent.  If either the principal or superintendent disapproved, then the guest speaker was canceled.  If I was insubordinate and continued to invite the guest speaker to my classroom, there would be sufficient grounds for my termination, and rightly so.  I can’t help but wonder why a Catholic educational institution would not also have a similar policy, especially when one’s eternal salvation is at risk and serious moral scandal is given to the entire community.

Blessed John Paul II’s 1990 Apostolic Constitution, Ex corde Ecclesiae (a.k.a. “On Catholic Universities”) clearly states the following:

Each Bishop has a responsibility to promote the welfare of the Catholic Universities in his diocese and has the right and duty to watch over the preservation and strengthening of their Catholic character. If problems should arise concerning this Catholic character, the local Bishop is to take the initiatives necessary to resolve the matter, working with the competent university authorities in accordance with established procedures and, if necessary, with the help of the Holy See.

There is also a footnote regarding the “established procedures”, which reads as follows:

[T]hese procedures are to be established in the university statutes approved by the competent ecclesiastical Authority; for other Catholic Universities, they are to be determined by Episcopal Conferences or other Assemblies of Catholic Hierarchy.

How closely does the Catholic university administration ally itself and communicate with its local bishop?  Is there sufficient supervision of the local Catholic colleges and universities provided by the local bishops throughout our dioceses?  Obviously, Blessed John Paul II expressed very serious concern about the present state of affairs.

This is my ultimate question.  Are there clearly delineated “established procedures” for disciplinary action when a university official ignores a bishop’s plea to prevent a certain speaker from addressing students for valid moral reasons?  Perhaps college and university presidents who claim to promote Catholic teaching, but whose actions belie that claim, need to be swiftly terminated and replaced before any more of these public scandals occur again.

We need to pray that our bishops and cardinals will summon the courage to not simply withdraw their presence from these ceremonies, but also take positive action to prevent individuals from being “honored” for their anti-Catholic beliefs and actions.  Let us pray hard for our Church leaders and for our universities that a true Catholic identity will once again return to all our institutions of higher learning.

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Anne Marie Vale is a lifelong Catholic and retired teacher. She has a Master’s degree in music education from Rhode Island College and a Ph. D. in organizational leadership from Regent University.

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  • BillinJax

    I’m sorry but with the years of go along to get along and
    tepid responses followed by Christian capitulation to political correctness
    holding back the faithful’s mounting frustrations with clerical explanations of
    deep regret, great sorrow, dire concerns over those who have abused our faith
    and reduced it to the point society sees it as outdated sentiments or old world
    rituals are no longer sufficient to ease the pain or quiet our fears of having
    our religious beliefs disqualified as guides to a civilized society and the
    very foundations upon which our nation and its freedoms were formed.

    It is time for the Bishops in the name of the faithful to
    speak out against all enemies of the faith inside and outside the Church with
    tongues sharpened by the Spirit on the fundamental Truth of the gospels and the
    absolutes of our doctrines without fear of losing their status as friends of the
    Feds in keeping control of the populous. The struggle has reached the point of
    no return with the current utterly anti-Catholic regime in Washington that day
    by day with the help of willing so called Catholics in every department of the
    government succumbing to the lure of evil disguised as entitlement and rights
    which lead to ruin. This is not loving our neighbor it is leaving them defenseless
    as the velvet steamroller of socialism is about to crush them and our religious
    freedoms.

  • Johnathan

    I am from Boston and this has been typical since the 60′s. The school has ALWAYS taken money over Catholic principals. It hasn’t been the old Catholic B.C. for a LONG time. We have had many good bishops since then and Cardinal O’Malley is no exception, but in the end no bishop will rock the boat. There convictions don’t run so deep to take the real stands that we would all like them to. I definitely wouldn’t expect it from a bishop who presided over one of the most defiant dissenters in the public sectors funeral aka Ted Kennedy. I haven’t lost hope, but without someone with grit in their belly and trying to be p/c it looks more unlikely that things will ever change.

  • jaymis

    With all due respect the reason C.O’.M did nothing is very clear. He simply chose not to. It’s no more complicated than that. Any prelate that excuses, ignores or puts up with the Ted Kennedy’s is at heart a politician, not a Cardinal/Shepherd. Selective enforcement of Canon Law. Selective enforcement of this or selective enforcement of that. It matters not. In the end, it is all the same. We have all heard the term “Cafeteria Catholics” to describe the pick and choose laity. Seems this virus also infects the religious and priest ranks as well aka “Cafeteria Clerics”. “Holy” is not a word that would describe either one. It’s bad enough for laity to have the “Cafeteria Syndrome” but it is in excusable for a priest or religious let alone a Cardinal/Bishop. They create great scandal, damage and confusion in the faithful. These are not stupid people. To the contrary they are highly educated. So what’s the answer? They fully know it and do it anyway. No excuses, please. The reality is there are a lot of wolves in sheep’s clothing who know exactly what and why they are doing things. Although, C.O’M seems to be somewhat better than say Cardinal Dolan, they are politicians first, and second. Reaffirms the adage…”Watch what they do, not what they say”. Reality is not pretty at times and neither is sin no matter who commits it.

  • Lee

    The Shepherd leading his flock to slaughter, but not present to take witness.
    Come Holy Spirit!

  • Dan

    I honestly think the time has come for the laity to lead in this regard. I think that the “cafeteria clerics” have failed us. It is time to not look to them for real leadership in the streets of everyday life. We consider it nothing short of miraculous that all the bishops would agree on something so basic as the HHS mandate. There is an old saying that when the average temperature is very low, even a healthy person is thought to have a fever. Well the spiritual temperature of most clerics is so low that a healthy bishop is considered radical by comparison.

    My suggestion is that a number of prominent lay apostolates should ban together to provide a fierce, direct and PUBLIC campaign against these universities, colleges, etc. As part of this I think EWTN, Catholic Exchange, Catholic.com, and any other highly visited Catholic websites, tv and radio programs serving Catholics should, by virtue of their public voices and no-cost ability to be the faithful’s voice, speak out with one voice. Promote true Catholicism and publicly condemn all this other nonsense.

    These media outlets have the voice, the technology, the ability. Let’s see if they have the will and courage to do it.

  • Maureen

    After BC bought the Archdiocese of Boston out of debt through the purchase of the seminary property, the diocese has no ground to stand on. Until the church can fund their own way out of the mess they got into, the universities are going to do what they want. I can think of a lot more problems to deal with before relegating graduation speakers. I find your article laughable.

  • EaglesAgainstMoonbats

    hey dopey. Boston College, despite being a Jesuit, Catholic Institution, is no longer owned by the Society of Jesus or the Catholic Church. In fact, it was re-organized in the middle of the 20th century and is a registered NPO that is owned by its Trustees. Cardinal O’Malley has no authority over BC. If you want to run it up the ol ladder to the Superior General or the Pope they may have a teeny tiny bit of control. The school can do what they want. As a graduate, and a Catholic, I find it insulting that Cardinal O’Malley took advantage of an opportunity where he could make the front page of the Boston Globe. President Obama spoke at Notre Dame, you didn’t make a stink then. JFK spoke at BC on their 100th anniversary, no one made a stink of him siding with the Democratic views on abortion. To attack the school on a speaker they chose and blatantly ignore the immeasurable charitable works they carry out in the Jesuit, Catholic tradition for the greater Boston community, is embarrassing.

  • waynergf

    Help me understand, EaglesAgainstMoonbats…if BC is “no longer owned by the Society of Jesus or the Catholic Church,” why you refer to it as “being a Jesuit, Catholic Institution?” …especially when BC’s actions are in opposition to the Church’s teachings?

  • pnyikos

    I cannot understand why you claim “you didn’t make a stink” when Obama spoke at Notre Dame, “EAM”. Stinks were raised all over the place. And what’s this about JFK? Are you referring to President Kennedy, who died in 1963? If so, perhaps you should switch “Eagles” with “Moonbats” in your handle. The Democratic views on abortion were totally different back then from what they are now.

  • pnyikos

    “Let them do what they want”– and let them go on calling themselves a Catholic university? That doesn’t compute.

  • Frank

    Hey stupid, if BC doesn’t refer to itself as being in any way affiliated with the Catholic Church then the school can do as they please. But if they do, then they MUST accept Catholic moral teachings. This ain’t rocket science, genius.

  • catholicexchange

    Let’s keep it civil, fellas–or take it outside.

  • David S.

    I understand your concern with Cardinal O’Malley allowing this abomination to take place in the Archdiocese of Boston. But what about Cardinal Dolan allowing Joe Biden to received Holy Communion at a Mass he was celebrating at St. Patrick’s Cathedral this past Palm Sunday?

  • pete salveinini

    The problem is that Boston College is owned by the Jesuits and thus the local Ordinary for the Diocese, be he a Cardinal even, must go to Rome to get the Jesuit Superior General to correct the situation, since OBVIOUSLY the Provincial Superior has no intention of altering anything. What is galling about this is that the Jesuits take a special vow of obedience to the Holy Father.THAT MEANS that all the Holy Father has to do is pick up the phone and order the Superior General to fix things! It HAS TO COME FROM THE TOP DOWN, as that is how the Jesuit Order works. Of course such a command of obedience needs to be prudent, but to be frank this should have ended decades ago, along with all the other Jesuit institutions that actively promote the gay agenda and other heterodoxies openly on the their campuses. MAYBE Pope Frances will get this accomplished relatively soon. The Cardinal has no ability locally to change a policy at the College. Of course, he could go straight to the Holy Father and lay out the many problems and pointedly ask the Holy Father to clean up the mess within a year. Wait and pray!

  • JimmyChonga

    Boston college removed all outward traces of Catholicism – tore saints from niches, removed crosses from classroom walls LONG AGO for the “Sacred” federal buck. When your soul is for sale – it’s a CHEAP soul indeed. They don’t speak for the faith anymore, with few exceptions, e.g. Peter Kreeft. I won’t send my kids to that school, Georgetown, or Notre Dame. They’re bastions of liberalism and compromise.

  • http://www.davidlgray.info/ David L. Gray

    Good thoughts and solutions! Great contribution this grave issue!

  • Obama_Dogeater

    Gutless bishops. Some “leaders” we have in our Church.

  • Poppiexno

    Cardinal O’Malley’s comment on BC is weak, tepid. But it does have that most important all-redeeming quality, according to modern usage, of being non-judgemental.
    His attendance at Ted Kennedy’s funeral was scandalous as the Catechism of the Catholic Church defines the term.
    Equally scandalous are the behaviors (or should I write non-behaviors) of so many bishops toward so-called “Catholic” politicians who promote abortion. Such people should be publicly and officially excommunicated. Excommunicated? Far from that, with some exceptions, they are allowed to receive Holy Communion! Scandalous!

  • Florin S.

    June 14th: I’m not sure what Cardinal O’Malley could have done? Those who defy the Church, her Bishops and her teaching do not and will not listen to anyone, not even the Pope. The only thing is to order them to remove the title “Catholic” from their names…and if they refuse? Look, if ‘Catholic’ politicians like Pelosi, Biden, Andrew Cuomo, et al, can still be considered Catholics in good standing with the Church and so receive Holy Communion despite the fact that they publicly and aggressively promote the mass murders of human babies in the womb, then anything goes. Pelosi has just stated that protecting abortion rights up until the 9th month of gestation is ‘sacred ground’ – and she will fight with a fury to make sure that there are no limits to the mass slaughter of humans in the womb (while denying farmers water so she can have it diverted to fish!) – these people don’t just ‘support’ the genocide of generations of humans, they actively and publicly promote this evil agenda – and they are therefore aiding and abetting murder and are as guilty as those who carry out the death sentence on babies in the womb…yet, Pelosi and the others declare publicly that they are ‘practicing’ Catholics…if the Vatican does not speak out clearly and strongly and publicly about this very soon, the evil will spread further and before long we will have it made legal to kill babies outside the womb…

  • Florin S.

    And what about the Archdiocese of New York admitting that they have been paying insurance premiums which provide for contraceptive and abortions producing drugs? But they say they do this ‘under protest’ – what?! Rome should investigate this….how hypocritical!!! They should be protesting the mass slaughter of human babies and not palling around with the likes of Andrew Cuomo who is rabid in his demands for unlimited abortions by non-medical personnel!

  • dan

    Still Catholicism and clueless on how one gains salvation biblical response here. But, we must again make it clear that salvation is a free gift of God (Eph. 2:8), that is by faith (Rom. 5:1), and is apart from our works (Rom. 3:28, 4:5; Gal. 2:16).

    “For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
    29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also?
    Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since indeed God who will justify the
    circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one,” (Rom. 3:28-30).

    “What
    then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh,
    has found? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to
    boast about; but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wage is not reckoned as a favor, but as what is due. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness,” (Rom. 4:1-5).

    “Nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus,
    even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by
    faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of
    the Law shall no flesh be justified,” (Gal. 2:16).

    So
    we can see that salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone. Did you
    also know that adding works to salvation is condemned in scripture?

    “You
    foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus
    Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? 2 This is the only thing I
    want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of
    the Law, or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by
    the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?” (Gal. 3:1-3).

    “Behold
    I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of
    no benefit to you. 3 And I testify again to every man who receives
    circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law. 4 You
    have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by
    law; you have fallen from grace,” (Gal. 5:2-4).

    “Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your
    name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many
    miracles?’ 23 “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
    depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness,’” (Matt. 7:22-23).In Gal. 3:1-3
    above, Paul is clearly teaching that the Galatians were fools. Why?
    They were adding works to the work of the Holy Spirit. In Gal. 5:2-4,
    Paul tells them that if they received circumcision that they would not
    be under grace. Circumcision represented the works of the Law and Paul
    clearly tells them that just getting circumcised (not doing good works)
    would damn them. Why? Because it was a symbol of keeping the Law.

  • BM

    I understand and appreciate the sentiment and reason behind this piece, but it seems to push for ultimately pointless reforms. Such speakers are clearly just icing on the cake. If a school is so far gone that its faculty and administration seek out such speakers, it is reasonable to think they routinely support things contrary to the Catholic faith. If this is so, what difference will censuring a speaker or two do? You’d have to remove most of the faculty and administration to make a meaningful difference. Is that ever going to happen?

    Again, let’s say they did limit guest speakers to only those who champion the faith: would this make up for year after year after year after year of insinuations that hinder, undermine or destroy true faith?

  • Frank

    Just responding to the “dopey” line

  • James of Nashville

    A simple solution is to return to the gospel of Jesus Christ. The 4th commandment…” Thou shall not steal “. Who paid to have BC built and why. Have we honored their trust and is BC being used for something other than what it was intended. If not…then logically… it is thievery. The administration of BC has betrayed the trust of the Catholic family and have sinned against God. Therefore…they will all be held accountable by Gods justice. If your eyeball causes you to sin pluck it out…better you should be blind than suffer the tormenting fires of hell. Let me play the prophet…Gods judgement is already upon us…pray…because the lambs and the goats are clearly being separated.

  • James1975

    I think you also should include these verses..(James 2:17)” Even so faith, if it has no works, is [p]dead, being by itself.”…and also (James 2:19-20)” You believe that [r]God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?”…If your faith is real and you follow Jesus Christ, you will do good works to please him.Therefore how can you possibly believe that faith without works of charity will bring you salvation?

  • dan

    Yes sadly it’s the one of the few verse catholic seem to want to accept. .But if you would read what Jesus said it explain what James was saying. Remember the bible does not have Contradictions .Only catholic who won’t read and accept the whole of scripture.They blindly only accept what they are told it says . .John 6 28 Then said they to him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said to them, This is the work of God, that you believe on him whom he has sent…. As James is talking about to faith is more then belief it they understanding of What Jesus God did to bring 100% forgiveness. Catholic just refuse to comprehend Jesus righteous sacrifice bring 100% forgiveness .Doing works does not bring forgiveness . Sadly catholic follow the lies and think they merit their own salvation by sacrament and doing catholic things.They make Jesus sacrifice a incomplete atonement .Bible absolutely promise one forgiveness and eternal life .It does not ever push Catholicism ideology of Purgatory or maybe if you do enough works you might gain Heaven.John 3:16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.Philippians 3:20-21 – #4 Bible Scripture on Eternal Life- Our True Citizenship we are citizens of heaven, where the Lord Jesus Christ lives. And we are eagerly waiting for him to return as our Savior. He will take our weak mortal bodies and change them into glorious bodies like his own, using the same power with which he will bring everything under his control.

    John 11:25-26 – Eternal Life- Belief in Jesus leads to Eternal Life
    Jesus told her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Anyone who believes in me will live, even after dying. Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will never ever die. Do you believe this, Martha?”

  • James1975

    Brother…why do you persecute and slander our religion,when in fact we are both followers of the same Jesus Christ.And hopefully you feel the same as I do, and want to get to heaven as I do.Rather than use hostility to try to get your point across, why not educate yourself by reading the Cathechism of the Catholic church,instead of falsely accusing Catholics of things because they are not your way?Each verse was written in a different book,at different times and by different people. Take the 4 Gospels for instance: Each was a different account of the same story,and is worded according to each author’s recollection.Throwing out various Bible verses to prove your point is a reflection of your unwillingness to accept anything beyond what YOU believe or have been taught. Jesus Christ did good works,and acts of charity…we should all strive to be more like him. Instead of persecute each other’s religions,christians should be banning together against people who would take prayer and Christ out of our schools,and out of everywhere in our public life.Your Brother in Christ..James

  • dan

    When Jesus spoke the truth they called it hostile .Because they walked in a darkness . Yourself walk in the same lie .You brand yourself to Catholicism as your religion.i.Your own word again brand you in darkness because you follow the Catholicism for truth and reject the true word of God the bible .As one delivered out of the darkness of catholicsm I know well the anti biblical word of the Cathechism.How it claims forgiveness comes from being Catholics and doing catholic work like Eucharist . Sadly James1975 you do not need Catholicism you have the option to seek God word and walk in the light of truth.I am not your brother because you do not understand Jesus atonement is 100% there to give you 100% forgiveness and cleanse you complete .Nothing you can add to it or nothing Catholicism has can add to this .Catholicism is the path way to damnation full of self righteousness ..

  • James1975

    I will no longer entertain your hopes of an argument by feeding your fire. I will however pray for you…for Jesus tells me to love my brother as myself..which I put forth my best effort at doing. May God bless you in all your endeavors…James

  • dan

    I know the truth offends you because you celebrate being catholic more then wanting the truth God offers .It pride that makes one refuses Jesus complete atonement on the cross they love to pour into it self righteousness .. I accept the atonement Jesus offer on the cross and His forgiveness that cleanse me completely Praise God .I am forgiven and heaven is my gain . I am nothing worthless without Jesus righteousness .The Bible God absolute arbitrator of truth follow and gain heaven .Jesus is the mediator between man and father God .He is my hope my salvation He dwells within mew as a scripture says .He alone is my source of truth .

  • JnnyBGood

    Do you even know anything about Carolicism? Do you even know that the Bible came from the Catholic Church’s teaching and authority. You cannot fully love the groom if you reject His bride?

  • Pat

    Why would Cardinal O’Malley do anything? From what I have read some in his own inner circle are pro abortion and very liberal Fr. Hehir for starters! Check out Boston Catholic Insider. He doesn’t even counter so many so- called Catholic politicians in Boston who advocate same sex marriage and abortion rights. To think O’Malley would do anything when his public record so far shows he does nothing is a pipe dream!

  • dan

    Seem you fail to read my post .Go back and read before you post The answer was there .It’s almost laughably the same talking point Catholics will make .You people have no understanding .The bible did not come from catholic .the Old testament came for Jews people the new testament was written my men inspired by God Inspired why so we would read it and come to the truth..The N.T letter were passed around to believers.The catholic church killed 10′s of thousands people for even reading the bible .Salvation JnnyBGood will not be gained by being a good catholic .You will only find yourself in hell . Open up the bible and allow what Jesus promise .The Holy Spirit will guide those who seek the truth when the read the bible Jesus quoted from 24 of the O.T books .He being God knew it was the truth .

  • JnnyBGood

    Dan, once again your complete ignorance is showing. The Catholic Church has always taught that salvation is found in the salvific work of Christ on Calvary. It has always affirmed the need to trust Jesus for salvation. Nowhere in any of its writings does is say anything as simplistic or mischara terized as your assertion that, “If you are a a good Catholic you will go to heaven. If you actually took time to read the beautiful writings of the Saints and not gain your understanding of Catholicism from a cartoon trac, you might begin to see the beauty and truth of a Church that has endured over 2,000 years against the same false and misguided attacks as yours. You are not the first to think they can pick up a Bible and tear down the Church that St. Peter, the Rock, built throught the grace and guidance of the promised Holy Spirit. You claim the Holy Spirit will guide you when you read the Bible but I have had Baptist ministers tell me that speaking in tongues is of the devil and Pentecostal preachers tell me it is a necessary sign of being saved. Who is right? Both claimed the Holy Spirit as their authority. A perfect book in the hands of imperfect men can be misinterpreted. That is why Christ established a Church and did not write a book or ask anything be written down. He created a living body to be His Church. He gave that body the gift of His Spirit to know the truth. So, while I appreciate your fervor, you really should learn something about Catholicism before you feel called by God to attack it.

  • dan

    Ok sure that why forgiveness comes for doing sacrament and catholic work like Eucharist .That is not understanding what Jesus atonement is .That adding to the absolute truth and turning it into a lie . That is not how one gain salvation by being catholic again or doing catholic requirements ..There is absolute no reason to follow Catholicism . The bible is the truth to follow and nothing else …..

  • Michelle Marie Allen

    “Ok sure that why forgiveness comes for doing sacrament and catholic work like Eucharist .That is not understanding what Jesus atonement is .That adding to the absolute truth and turning it into a lie . That is not how one gain salvation by being catholic again or doing catholic requirements ..There is absolutely no reason to follow Catholicism . The bible is the truth to follow and nothing else …..I proclaim scripture you proclaim catholic doctrine ,… ”

    I am trying to understand why you believe that the sacraments of Reconciliation and celebrating the Holy Eucharist are just a catholic “thing/doctrine”. Both sacraments are verified in Holy Scripture.

    “And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” ” Luke 22:19.

    This is the commandment in which Jesus Christ instructed His apostles to continue to celebrate the Holy Eucharist

    Here is another commandment referring to the apostles’ God given authority to forgive sins by Jesus Christ Himself, the second person of the Holy Trinity.

    21* [Jesus] said to them again,l “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.”22* And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them,m “Receive the holy Spirit.23* n Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” John 20: 21-23

    These sacraments are real ! They are not just some arbitrary Catholic doctrine(s). Please, rethink your understanding of Holy Scripture.

    Only in the Catholic Church are these sacraments recognized and faithfully fulfilled by the Catholic clergy (priests, bishops, etc.)so that the full state of grace of God may be received for all of the Body of Christ.

  • dan

    This is not in the bible not any where.I understand you really do not want the truth .Catholic love to only read part of the scripture Luke does not claim forgiveness of sins by doing this .and has nothing to do with doing catholic things to gain forgiveness .By the way if you bothered to read the scripture in context known as hermeneutic you would realize (instead just repeating catholic false belief) You see doing in Luke nor any other Gospel writer claim that it really turns in to Jesus blood and body.First Jesus did this before His sacrifice . .

    Roman Catholic view is a violation of Levitical law

    The Catholicism interpretation of the Eucharist requires the participant to eat human flesh and drink human blood. Remember, Roman Catholicism teaches that the bread and the wine become the actual body and blood of Christ. Essentially, this amounts to cannibalism. What does the
    Scripture say concerning this?

    “For as for the life of all flesh, its blood is identified with its
    life. Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, You are not to eat
    the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood;
    whoever eats it shall be cut off,” (Lev. 17:14).

    Notice that the scripture says that you are not to eat the blood of any flesh.
    It would certainly appear that the Catholicism view is in
    contradiction to the Old Testament scripture since it advocates the eating of the blood of Christ. To the RCC it is not just symbolic, it is the actual eating and drinking of the body of Christ.

    “And while they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” 27 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; 28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. 29 “But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom,” (Matt. 26:26-29).

    After Jesus said, “This is my blood,” (Matt. 26:28), he said, “But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Fathers kingdom,” (Matt. 26:29). Why would Jesus speak figuratively of His blood as “the fruit of the vine” if it was his literal blood? He called it wine. …
    “For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it, and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same way He took the cup also, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup,” (1 Cor. 11:23-28).AGAIN Sadly you don’t want God Word the Bible for your source for truth . The truth interferes with you pride in being catholic and your vain efforts to do good works .Mark 7 Jesus slams those who do exactly what Catholicism does .

    6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
    These people honor me with their lips,
    but their hearts are far from me.
    7 They worship me in vain;
    their teachings are merely human rules.

    8 You have let go of the precept of God and are holding on to human traditions.” 9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the precept of God in order to observe your own traditions!

  • Michelle Marie Allen

    “The Catholicism interpretation of the Eucharist requires the participant to eat human flesh and drink human blood. Remember, Roman Catholicism teaches that the bread and the wine become the actual body and blood of Christ. Essentially, this amounts to cannibalism. What does the
    Scripture say concerning this?”

    Please read John 6:30-71. Choose the KJV if that be your biblical guide. This is what the Bible says about the Holy Eucharist being the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ by Jesus’ very OWN words.

    You do not specify which form of “Christianity” you practice but I believe you are a Seventh Day Adventist by your strong vitriol against the Catholic Church.

    I am sad you have such an apparent hatred of the Catholic Church.

    I cannot reply any longer to your rants because you have hardened your heart.

    I

  • dan

    I hate no one I tell you the truth and you are offend .You take pride in self for being catholic.That’s where your heart lays . Not in gaining true salvation.I only gave you biblical truth and shown where and why Catholicism is wrong compared to biblical truth.catholciism set itself up as the arbitrator of what they decide is truth. John 6:30-71. Jesus is speaking of His body being sacrificed .Again no where in the N.T do the writers claim forgiven by this nor do they proclaim the catholic false teaching .Jesus even says it 61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, “Does this offend you? 62 What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
    Jesus said when he broke the bread that “this is my body which is given for you, do this in remembrance of me.” After the meal, he took the cup
    (of wine) and said, “this cup is the new testament in my blood” (Luke 22:19 & 20). As often as we do this, we proclaim the Lord’s death
    until he comes again. These are symbols of his body and blood just as when he said, “I am the door.” His body was not really made of wood …with hinges and a latch. In the same way, the Passover feast was
    symbolic of the first Passover feast in Egypt where the blood of the Lambs saved the first-born of the Jews in bondage in Egypt. The bread and wine are symbols of Jesus, our Passover Lamb.Note they did not drink the blood of lambs back then either. Why do you refuse the salvation Jesus offer .He says Just believe in Him and just ask Jesus and He will forgive all your sins and cleanses you complete .DONE Nope don’t need to be catholic or do anything to gain His free Gift .It;’s a Free Gift not a earned Gift . So sad .those who reject what God offer so easily and freely because He the giver .Thank God I have been forgiven and heaven awaits me .Catholics just don’t comprehend this ..

  • dan

    Gotta Boast by dan phillips CR

    You’re always working hard
    to be welcomed in heaven by the Lord
    It all about the Good of self
    You even have a statue of Jesus
    sitting on your shelf

    Gotta boast, Gotta Boast
    You done the absolute utmost
    Gotta boast ,Gotta Boast
    for you,heaven gonna give a toast
    Sure to get a Mansion,on the Crystal coast

    On the wall Over your bed …
    Jesus is secured on the cross
    because your able to pay your cost
    Gotta big big bible,
    sitting on the table
    still wrapped in it’s original label

    Gotta boast Gotta Boast
    You done the absolute utmost
    Gotta boast Gotta Boast
    for you,heaven gonna give a toast
    Sure to get a Mansion,on the Crystal coast

    Saw you yesterday,pulling neighbor weeds
    Guess I’ll Call you Mr deeds
    You out do the boy scout,
    in helping old ladies cross the street
    Your keeping all records,
    to show St Peter all the receipts

    Gotta boast Gotta Boast
    You done the absolute utmost
    Gotta boast Gotta Boast
    for you,heaven gonna give a toast
    Sure to get a Mansion,on the Crystal coast

    Guess what …..
    You have been weighed by the scales
    and you have failed
    Your ways in your own eye’s
    seemed pure for sure
    but it’s only Jesus forgiveness
    where heaven is secure
    not of works that’s for sure

    Gotta boast Gotta Boast
    You done the absolute utmost
    Gotta boast Gotta Boast
    for you,heaven gonna give a toast
    Sure to get a Mansion,on the Crystal coast

  • pnyikos

    If Jesus only meant to say that the bread and wine are symbols of his body and blood, why did he not tell this to the people who said “This is a hard saying. Who can hear it?” and went away? If he had said, “I meant that you must eat bread that symbolizes my flesh and drink wine that symbolizes my blood,” they would at least have had their question “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” answered.

    Do you think the Catholic Church went astray already in the days of the Church Fathers? When the charge of cannibalism was made against the Christians, they could have easily have laid the whole thing to rest by saying it was all just a symbol; but they took a very different route.

  • dan

    He did to His believer .He being God knew they others would walk away as they did .Jesus often spoke in riddles to the many and more clearly to his own … Sadly the deal with you is you only accept a little scripture instead of the whole. When the bible conflicts with catholic doctrine you reject the absolute truth and run after that which is not absolute .Again no where in bible is the act of taking Eucharist. a source for sin forgiven.But you hang on to being catholic .You think in it you find salvation maybe possible .You have no assurance. Yet bible proclaims one can and does have assurance in the shed blood of Jesus alone for forgiveness .In Him alone is one gaining heaven .It not a maybe or could be it a absolute . If one will confess to Jesus one all sins (there are no moral or venial either) all are erased and the person cleansed … I am going to heaven because of the love and grace -unmerited favor God offer me .I was a sinner and lost Jesus forgive me . Praise God .. I look to Jesus each day and pray to Him my hope my salvation .I go out to the highway and biways to share the true gospel .I love people so I share what Jesus did and offer all .Because hell is real and broad is the road to destruction narrow is the way and few who find it .

  • catholicexchange

    Hello Dan,
    You are welcome to read and comment here, of course, but we do ask a couple of things of everyone:
    1) be respectful. You are a guest here. If you came into a Catholic family’s house and spoke this way, you would quickly be escorted out of the house.
    2)Please edit your comments before posting. It doesn’t help anyone when you write in broken sentences that are grammatically incorrect and often unintelligible.
    3)If you have a particular point to make, then make it, but please do not continue to make these lists of general condemnations and blanket, unsupported statements–it is just a cheap attempt at proselytizing, and we resent it. God bless.

  • dan

    topical catholic the truth does not matter … change the subject to grammar .. Sad so sad

  • quisutDeusmpc

    I’ve got some news for you folks, the college is named “Boston College”, not “Boston Catholic College”. The word “catholic” appears nowhere in its name. It also is not a “Pontifical” college, as are the Catholic University of America and the Pontifical College Josephinum. It does, however, have a venerable Catholic heritage, specifically a Jesuit heritage dating to the 1840′s, and is ranked amongst the top 30 colleges/universities in the entire nation. Its cross competitors (surely who we rank up against is an objective measure of the stature of the university) include Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Brown, Georgetown, and Harvard. The Cardinal himself admits that the invitation to the Prime Minister went out prior to any legislative decisions that may be objectionable to the catholic Faith. Boston College is independently administered and the Cardinal has no authority to “allow” the college to approve of this or that speaker. He has exercised his moral authority as the archbishop of the diocese and decided against attending the graduation ceremony this year as a witness against the PM’s anti-life legislative decisions in Ireland, in consideration of the long history of Irish immigrants to the Massachusetts capital and as a witness to the Church’s pro-life morality and in an effort to encourage a culture and civilization of life and love. It is unfortunate that Ms. Vale cannot see the value of the Cardinal’s pro-life witness (“It is quite evident that the mere absence of a bishop or cardinal at a commencement exercise honoring persons with anti-Catholic positions is not very effective.”). Those who are like minded have the option of receiving their diplomas in the mail and also refusing to attend. I admit this is a sacrifice on their part, as they have work strenuously and perseveringly to enjoy this moment and their families have sacrificed to see them graduate. Nevertheless this option is open to them, and if enough families did this, the college/university would get the message, as they would not want to risk losing alumni donations to the College Trust which contribute in a substantial way to the operating costs of the university. The problem, at root, is that not enough Americans (not all or perhaps not most of those attending BC are Catholic) or Catholics, for that matter, are so strongly committed to pro-life values. It is an individual and a cultural problem. All this hand wringing and blame placing doesn’t accomplish anything. We need to put our lives where we claim our beliefs are and raise families committed to the same and eventually the numbers will be there. The Cardinal has set an example for us so we know where the Church stands. The college is a secular institution. It is not incorporated as a “Catholic” college in the Archdiocese and I have been unable to find, anywhere on its website where it claims to be ‘fully in accord’ with “Ex corde Ecclesiae”. All things things would be preferred and ideal, but we don’t live in an ideal, perfect world. It is up to us to do the hard work of conceiving and bringing to birth that vision. When I go to the National Catholic Reporter website or the New York Times website the comboxes have 59 votes up or down. The numbers simply aren’t there. “Go and make disciples, friends, children…and replenish the earth….”

  • quisutDeusmpc

    The archbishop has taken a stand. He has exercised his will and will not attend. The wealthy and prominent (the Sadducees of our time) will, like the poor, always be with us. Let us not be the scribes and Pharisees of our time. Our “righteousness” must exceed theirs, we have to be willing to put our lives where our mouths are. If we send our children or encourage our children to send our grandchildren quality colleges with conscious Catholic identities (e. g. places like Franciscan University of Steubenville, Christendom College, Ave Maria University, Magdalene College, The Thomas More College of Liberal Arts, Thomas Aquinas College) our money, our decisions, our children, and our lives will speak for themselves and eventually, if enough people do this, Boston College will get the message, or not, and become a thoroughgoing secular institution with merely a Catholic inception/history/heritage. Our bishops are doing what it is in their purview and authority to do. WE have to stand with them and send the message to the colleges/universities telling them, in effect, “We won’t send our money or our children if you continue to defy the doctrine of the Church or compromise its witness”. In a democracy, money and numbers talk. That is the function of the laity. The cardinal is a single person. We must support him and do as he has done, put his witness where his heart is, with Christ and His Church.

  • Ron Turner

    1) Don’t give any money to Boston College.
    2) Don’t’ send your children to Boston College.
    3) Don’t step foot on the campus of Boston College.

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