Sean Hannity vs. Father Euteneuer

Lat Friday evening, Fr. Tom Euteneuer appeared on Fox's Hannity and Colmes. His appearance followed a column in Human Life International's E-newsletter in which the good Father took Mr. Hannity to task for his public apology for taking two bites of a chicken sandwich on a Friday in Lent, but continuing to publicly dissent from the Church's teaching on birth control.

You can read a transcript of the TV interview here (with a nice fisking by Deacon John G).  Hannity refused to confront the issue at hand, and instead made random attacks on the Church about the sex abuse scandals.  Hannity sunk so low as to quote one of the most frequently misused and misunderstood Gospel passages, "Judge not lest you be judged."  Sadly, Fr. Euteneuer was engaged in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

As usual, a lively discussion on the topic is going on at Amy Welborn's Open Book blog.  A great quote from the comment box there:

The widespread use of artificial birth control by practicing Catholics casts a pall on the entire Church. It has led to sexual immorality, especially our young people, who flagrantly disregard the Church's teachings on sexuality. Rather than "liberating" women, it has made them mere objects of pleasure for men, who have no reason to limit their sexual desires. By insinuating that he is a "good" Catholic, and then loudly denouncing the Church for its teachings, Sean Hannity is guilty of scandal–scandal of greater proportion than most of us, because of his huge audience. He may have been in the seminary, he may have taken Latin, but you know what they say: you may be sitting in McDonald's, but that doesn't mean you're eating a hamburger.

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  • Guest

    God loves you .

    Frankly, it seemed to me that Father Euteneuer went on with too little preparation, including not having ready counters to ‘going off the topic’. It seems to me that he should have just taken the time needed to say,

    ‘Mr. Hannity, Mr. Colmes, take the rest of the week to read Pope Paul VI’s Humanae Vitae, especially for its prophetic nuances and statements, and I’ll come back next for three minutes for us to discuss things’.

    Even the priest who has a ‘column’ on the Fox News online site went off and painted in yet another corner. As it stands, three Catholics come off with little but egg here and there on Catholic faces. With such friends, who needeth enemies?

    Remember, I love you, too

    Through Christ, with Christ, in Christ,

    Pristinus Sapienter

    (wljewell @catholicexchange.com or … yahoo.com)

  • Guest

    Thank you Father Euteneuer for all you do!  People should read the exchange between Fr. and Sean to see how liberals argue and the tactics they use. Judge not… to try and silence you and to bring the audience to his side all along casting "judgement" against Fr. Euteneuer.  Like Fr. Corapi says… of course we make judgement.  Moral judgement, rational judgement.  If we don't then history will see this as an immoral and irrational time.  You better believe I judge which programs I allow to come into my home.  MTV, VH1, Comedy Channel and now discovery because of the tomb of Jesus are out.  OH HOW JUDGEMENTAL I AM. I need to be this way so that when I am judged I am not judged as a father with no backbone.  their programming is not coming into my home, period. Now because of the disobedience shown by Sean Hannity, he's not coming in thru the airwaves into my home as well.  I judge that I cannot trust him to talk about the Church in a truthful manner.  No heritics allowed. I am not condenming these people.  They just aren't coming into my home and confusing my kids.

  • Guest

    oops forgot one little thing..

    The spiritual works of mercy are:

    Fraternal Correction

    Fraternal correction is here taken to mean the admonishing of one's neighbor by a private individual with the purpose of reforming him or, if possible, preventing his sinful indulgence. This is clearly distinguishable from an official disciplining, whose mouthpiece is a judge or other like superior, whose object is the punishment of one found to be guilty, and whose motive is not so directly the individual advantage of the offender as the furtherance of the common good. That there is, upon occasion and with due regard to circumstances, an obligation to administer fraternal correction there can be no doubt. This is a conclusion not only deducible from the natural law binding us to love and to assist one another, but also explicitly contained in positive precept such as the inculcation of Christ: "If thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother" (Matthew 18:15). Given a sufficiently grave condition of spiritual distress calling for succour in this way, this commandment may exact fulfilment under pain of mortal sin. This is reckoned to be so only when

    • the delinquency to be corrected or prevented is a grievous one;
    • there is no good reason to believe that the sinner will adequately provide for himself;
    • there is a well-founded expectation that the admonition will be heeded;
    • there is no one else just as well fitted for this work of Christian charity and likely to undertake it;
    • there is no special trouble or disadvantage accruing to the reformer as a result of his zeal.

    Practically, however, individuals without any official capacity are seldom impeachable as having seriously transgressed the law in this matter because it is but rarely one finds the coalition of circumstances just enumerated.

    Of course the reproof is to be administered privately, i.e. directly to the delinquent and not in the presence of others. This is plainly the method appointed by Christ in the words just cited and only as a remedy for obduracy is any other contemplated by Him. Still there are occasions upon which one might lawfully proceed in a different way. For instance

    • when the offence is a public one;
    • when it makes for the prejudice of a third party or perhaps even the entire community;
    • when it can only be condignly dealt with by the authority of a superior paternally exercised;
    • when a public rebuke is necessary to preclude scandal: witness the withstanding of Peter by Paul mentioned in the Epistle to the Galatians (2:11-14);
    • when the offender has already in advance relinquished whatever right he possessed to have his good name safeguarded, as is the custom in some religious bodies.

    The obligation of fraternal correction, so far as private persons go, does not obtain, generally speaking, for the case of one who violates a law through invincible ignorance. The obvious reason is that there is then no immunity for it is their duty to instruct their subordinates. Every one, however, whether having an official competency or not, is bound to give the admonition when the sin, committed though it be from ignorance, is hurtful to the offender or a third party or is the occasion of scandal.

     http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04394a.htm

    Sealed  and I never went to a seminary.

     Once again, thank you and God Bless you Fr. Euteneuer

  • Guest

    God loves you .

    Judgment is never far from Christian conscience. Indeed, in the likes of Hannity’s misuse of Christ’s admonition, we see the seared conscience so prevalent in our age. Any commonsense human being knows that judgments must be made about principles under which to live, convictions with which to move, sin or grace in which to have his being. That is, he judges acts, not humans. In ‘the measure I measure by’, indeed, judging humans becomes evident for its wrongness (i.e., it cannot help my holiness) and judging actions as means for righteousness.

    Now, Sean Hannity is no secular liberal. He is essentially conservative, as modern conservatism goes. What he does have for a major flaw is that he lets his press clippings enlarge his ego. He indulges his incipient ‘celebrity’ status and brooks little such question as the good Father came with. Father Euteneuer should have been prepared for every (and commonly cliche, now hackneyed and sophist) form of Hannity’s bullying distraction because Hannity has used the likes before.

    Father did not condemn Hannity. He demanded that the man realize the un-Catholic position he takes on birth control. Hannity (nor Colmes) is not in any position – how many Catholics (et al) are? – for arguing about birth control from the Catholic position as the Magisterium has it. It is why Father Euteneuer should just have told them to read Humanae Vitae (‘it’s available on the Vatican website’) and he would return in a week to discuss it with them.

    And, thence, too, how many others would have gone to find the document from Pope Paul VI for themselves? Think of the powerful Catholic moment for Christ that would have made.

    Remember, I love you, too

    Through Christ, with Christ, in Christ,

    Pristinus Sapienter

    (wljewell @catholicexchange.com or … yahoo.com)

  • Guest

    Sean Hannity is a classic cafeteria Catholic.  I know because I used to be one, too.  He is embracing the teachings that he finds acceptable and rejecting the teachings that he finds unacceptable.  He is probably very sincere and considers himself a good Catholic.  I did too even when I was living with my boyfriend (I loved him) or using artificial birth control in my marriage.  I shudder to think of how many times I presented myself for Holy Communion during this time of my life but that is another topic.  Suffice to say that I am eternally grateful for the Sacrament of Confession and Reconciliation.

    The problem with Artificial Birth Control, is that at it's very foundation it helps or perhaps allows two things (sexual pleasure and spousal love) that were meant to be always coupled together to be pried apart.    Within the marriage covenant, sexual pleasure is another way of giving oneself totally to your spouse.  Even in a healthy, loving marriage, Articial Birth Control skews this relationship, making sexual union a little more about getting pleasure than about self giving. 

    Sean Hannity and other cafeteria Catholics will not get it until they have a conversion regarding Jesus' authority.  I too, used to dismiss the teachings of the Church that I did not embrace as the opinions of a bunch of old, out of touch men.  I did not get that the teachings of the Church are the Truths that Christ entrusted to the her.  When we heed the Church, we heed Christ.  It is not man-made self-serving authority but God given, Christ serving authority that the Church has.  This is precisely why it is not subject to opinion polls and changing cultural "norms".  There are so many Catholics who don't truly understand 1) what the Church is, 2) why the Church as authority and 3) just exactly who gave the Church this authority.  Once these things are properly understood, authentic discipleship of Jesus Christ can begin. 

    I, too, embraced Artificial Birth Control and rejected abortion for many years and truly, honestly, did not see any conflict with that position.  However, I kept hearing from authentic Catholic sources that all birth control pills are abortifacient.  It made me queasy enough to schedule two separate appointments with the Catholic doctors in my ob/gyn practice to discuss the physiological aspects of artificial birth controll pills that I was taking.  Both of these good Catholics assured me that the pills they presribe are certainly not abortifacient and they would not be able to prescribe them in good conscience if they were. 

    Still, I heard the voice of doubt which prompted me to read the prescription inserts carefully.  Although the pill was supposed to prevent or supress ovulation, there was language in the insert that stated that just in case the ovulation wasn't supressed, there was a backup mechanism that would provide an inhospitable environment to discourage implantation (I forget the exact language).  Concerned with this possibility, I went back to my Catholic ob/gyn and they were surprised that the pill had this effect.  It was highly unlikely, they assured me, that properly used the birth control pill would allow ovulation. 

    I finally sought out an authentic Catholic ob/gyn (thanks to onemoresoul.com) and the conversation had a different attiude.  Yes, the chances are small but we know that the pill isn't 100% effective when properly used.  This is fully admitted by the drug makers.  So in a very few cases, ovulation is not suppressed.  In some of those cases, fertilization takes place.  And in some of those cases, the new life might find the womb difficult to implant.  What are the chances?  Dr. Matheson (may God bless you for speaking the truth) told me that perhaps it's one in a million but "we error on the side of life".  Those simple words helped me decide that because of the abortifacient aspects of articial birth control, we had to stop using it.  I couldn't bear to think about a new human being that my husband and I cocreated finding no place to thrive.  At the time, Dr. Matheson told me that the bigger reason to not use articial birth control was that it was against the teachings of the Church.  I was not ready to accept that reason but my time was coming.

    For Sean Hannity and other cafeteria Catholics who pick and choose which teachings they will embrace, I invite you to do something that may hasten your conversion as it no doubt did for me.  Pray the rosary.  (I had to get my son's second grade booklet on how to pray the rosary when I started.  I would sit on the chair with the little booklet in my lap and follow along with the various mysteries.  I opened the bible and read the scriptures for each mystery.)  I learned how to deeply meditate on the mysteries.  I prayed the rosary every day for a year.  My original motivation for such fervent prayer was to help a very sick child I loved.  In hindsight I see how embracing this prayer led to my conversion and opened my eyes and heart to the Truth.     

  • Guest

    The term "bait and switch" come to mind watching this exchange between Father and Hannity. When Hannity couldn't shake the public knowledge of his sin he turned the subject onto the good Father as if Father was responsible for the sex scandal.

    The scandal in itself can be tracked back to a slippery slope of birthcontrol and the way it objectifies humans. It's easy to use people for your self-gradification if you see them as objects.

    Mr. Hannity was really showing his true colorrs, he needs to find a confessor quickly, and no I am not judging him, I'm just the fruit inspector and his tree is infertile and lifeless.

  • Guest

    I love that line, bambushka.  I hope you don't mind if I use it.

  • Guest

    Jane it was wonderful to read your comment. I, too, held the cafeteria catholic stance,unfortunately I held mine throughout the raising of my children who also reject those teachings that aren't convenient. What really gave me hope was your experience with the rosary. For lent I am beginning to pray the rosary each morning, may Mary reach my heart and my children's.

  • Guest

    I also really enjoyed Jane Martin's e-mail.  As a periodic viewer of Fox News, I would often get frustrated when Sean hannity or Bill O'Reilly would regularly remind viewers about their Catholic faith but then criticize the Pope or certain teachings of the Church. 

    As an Evangelical convert to the Catholic faith, I am so grateful for the grace that God has given me to now be familiar with the Churches teachings, especially on this topic (Humanae Vitae and JPII Theology of the Body).  It is such a beautiful teaching that coincides with our nature as a human being which God created us. Who would have ever thought ten years ago that I would now be expecting my fifth child and write a book about the Catholic faith.

    It was disappointing to see Father Jonathan Morris' criticism of Father Euteneuer.  I wish that he would have rather praised him for trying to defend the faith and share the truth.  I hope that our priests, and individuals such as Jane, can clearly articulate and share the beauty of this great teaching of the Church to a culture that is so in need of it.

  • Guest

    There is an organization called ENDOW " Educating on the Nature and  Dignity of Women" based in Colorado. www.endowonline.com They use the Wednesday addresses given by JPII to teach women their vocation made in the image of God. Until women stop allowing themselves to be used, until they stop shoppiing for men who are "less than" what God intended in a holy spouse, men like Mr. Hannity will not get the big picture.

     

    These teachings are amazing, eye-opening and life saving. I have seen from experience that women being exposed to the Theology of the Body have become beacons of hope for the future of the family. One woman in particular, turned from a life on the "meat market", received the Sacrament of Reconciliation, applied and received an annulment, married in the church, and is now teaching others on the joy of complete openness in  marriage. All from hearing the truth at an ENDOW workshop.

    God is good all the time.

  • Guest

    God loves you .

    BRAVO! bambushka – you must be a real lady to think to find a good man . . .

    Can you point one out when you find him? Let us know how long you think it will take you.

    I mean, one not wearing a papal tiara, not Romanly-collared or monkishly cowled. I don’t mean the pundits around here – likely all spoken for by wives as gratified as the men are about their wives.

    Okay – I’ll grant a number here – without naming names, they are of the most of men around this table; the rest I know of too little, as yet. But, too, they are probably all taken, as well. Even old boors like me, widowed that I am, have some creditable if no longer serviceable features.

    But, for our daughters, our granddaughters – is not the wilderness wider and colder?

    Good question – new topic – ‘Is not the wilderness wider and colder?’

    Remember, I love you, too

    Through Christ, with Christ, in Christ,

    Pristinus Sapienter

    (wljewell @catholicexchange.com or … yahoo.com)

  • Guest

    'Is not the wilderness wider and colder?'

    Tough question.  As I look around my church, the prayer groups, the souls busy about God's business, at daily Mass … yup, mostly women.  (With full respect to the Godly men as well, you are simply outnumbered).  My father, a very conservative Catholic, would tell you the Church began removing the manly symbols of our faith from Churchs with Vatican II with unfortunate results.  That was before my time so I cannot say, but perhaps he has a point …  But let's look on the bright side.  Many good men have to come to the faith through the prompting and prayer of a Catholic wife …

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