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Why are homeschooled kids so annoying?

by Dwija Borobia on April 22, 2012 · 387 comments

About a year ago, when I first started considering taking my kids out of public school, I wasn’t met with the kind of incredulous questioning that I expected after suggesting something so reckless and foolhardy.  For the most part people were excited and supportive and helpful.  Many thought we were already homeschooling, in fact.  What surprised me most though is that folks who were concerned about the prudence of such a decision weren’t worried that my children might not learn enough or the the right things.  They didn’t wonder how my kids would know how to be quiet when they were supposed to or to wait in lines when they have to.

No, the biggest concern among the concerned was: SOCIALIZATION.  Ahhhh!  Socialize those kids!  Learnin’, schmlearning- those kids need to be among herds of other kids their exact age in order to learn how to be normal.  In other words: homeschooled kids are annoying and weird, and you don’t want your kids to be annoying and weird, do you?

Annoying and weird.

Well, if someone tries to tell you that their kids are never annoying, they’re lying to you.  And if someone else tries to tell you that any child of mine isn’t going to be at least a little weird no matter how they’re educated, they’ve lost their minds.

But I digress.

Why is this perception of the weirdo homeschooler so pervasive?  Why is it that despite the clear academic achievement of most homeschooled students, the fear of them “acting like that one weirdo guy I knew when I was a kid” is enough to turn otherwise supportive folks against the idea?  I’ve thought about it a lot and the best explanation I can come up with is this: ridicule.

See, everyone is born with a certain temperament.  Parents of more than one will all attest to this.  Same parents, same environment, same rules….completely different reactions from their children.  And some kids- well, some kids are annoying.  And what do I mean by “annoying”?  I mean what people mean when they say that homeschooled kids are annoying.  I mean kids who ask too many questions and know too much information and like certain stuff and refuse to like other things and don’t care what other people think about their silly hobbies and their know-it-all-ness.

When “annoying” kids like this go to a traditional school, they’re ridiculed.  They have a hard, or even impossible, time finding their niche.  They must either hide their true personality and inclinations in order to be accepted or they’re pushed to the fringes and made to feel abnormal.  Not good enough.  Made to feel less likable than those who keep their ideas and opinions to themselves or fail to form any to begin with.  Made to feel that convictions and fascinations are stupid and that pop culture is the only culture.  Not because “normal” kids are mean.  They mostly don’t even know they’re doing it, I assure you.  They just don’t know what to do with someone who’s so, like, weird.  Ya know?

I know.  I was one of those weird kids.

My eldest daughter knows.  She is one of those weird kids.

But when one of those “annoying” kids is homeschooled, no one makes fun of their outfits that don’t match.  Or the fact that they like to memorize things and wish the math assignments were harder.  No one looks at them askance when they know every answer to every question and are eager to share their knowledge.  When an annoying kid like that finds a new hobby and wants to learn everything they can about it and talk about it incessantly, no one treats them like there’s something wrong with pursuing an interest like that, no matter how dull it may seem to the other members of the homeschool classroom.  They are not ridiculed into trying to be who God didn’t create them to be.

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  • ESSENIC ™

    Learning starts in the womb and is continued throughout life! I think everyone should home-school themselves even if they go to “conventional” school.

  • http://profiles.google.com/jflare29 John Flaherty

    Hmm. Interesting article and following comments. I’d like to throw in my two cents:

    I recall BEING one of the weird ones…and THANK GOD!!
    I never did exactly find a niche in high school or early college with much of anyone.
    ..and THANK GOD FOR THAT!!

    ..Or did I?
    As I think about it, throughout my first two years of college, I DID spend a good deal of time in the..well, not QUITE a computer lab, but a general study area. After finishing some of our morning classes, some of us DID tend to gather there to work on problems. Within the first hour or two, you probably wouldn’t hear that much, but especially on Fridays, likely you WOULD hear quite a bit of conversation. In fact, Friday night could almost be a letdown as most people disappeared homeward, while I went back to my dorm room. I became rather well acquainted with HBO then….. If I ever had a niche though, it likely came when I graduated from junior college and began at the University. During my second year there, though still an undergrad, I wound up in a dorm aimed at grad students. As I recall, I had some of the MOST exciting conversations in that dorm that I can ever remember having! Sometimes I miss those days.

    Look, I get the whole thing about how it’s nice to have friends, nice to have someone you can fool about with, and so on. Honestly though, I don’t regret having NOT had any particular friends throughout high school. If anything, I almost pity many of my classmates. I gather that many of them did..whatever they did, which may have involved listening to a VERY zany DJ on Friday night. I recall being mostly annoyed by the guy, because he seemed so desperately senseless. Waaaaaaaayyyyy to much enthusiasm for the amount of substance he offered. But he was popular….
    I think I found him mostly obnoxious though because I could read a book about what adults might do and distinctly preferred to let my imagination run wild that way.

    Thank God for a chance to be a weirdo!!

  • Alexis

    Great article. All true,
    signed a second generation homeschooling mom.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mommybostic Janice Bostic

    I think you are absolutely correct.  People don’t know how to process a child who actually has their own opinion (gasp!) about something that might be different from what others think.  My homeschooled son is very much like this–opinionated and smart and inquisitive–all of the things that are his best qualities!!!  I can’t WAIT to see what a wonderful adult he is going to be some day. 

    Thanks for this essay and for putting into words what so many of us have believed all along.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/mommybostic Janice Bostic

     I would like to swipe this quote from you if you don’t mind.  Hearing the word “socialization” from homeschool doubters has become my biggest pet peeve!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mommybostic Janice Bostic

     Lisa, you made my day because I caught that too. 

    Incidentally, I am capable of teaching all of those advanced subjects to my son–not that he needs me to, since he is learning to self-educate and only rarely asks for help.  This is the point of what we are doing, I think.  Ultimately, you have to be able to acquire (and retain!) information for yourself.  When you can do that, there is NO limit to what you can do. 

    I never argue with anyone about homeschooling, because I have seen the change in my son with my own eyes.  The evidence does not lie.  Furthermore, I find the comment that “schools are not full of bullies” to be ridiculous.  My son is middle school age, and I assure you, the peer group is highly toxic.  My friends have their kids in school, and it is appalling.  I’m so glad we left that behind, and that my son will grow into an adult who can made decisions and choices without worrying about what the group thinks. 

  • Ktsmom9

     (Please keep your nastiness to yourself)

  • DJ Hesselius

    Annie: could it be the reason they are homeschooling is because they have a hard time reading? One of the fastest growth areas is special needs. From what I have seen, dyslexia (and yes, dysgraphia, although I wonder if that is a real disorder) are rampant in both the homeschool and the non-homeschool environment.  I have one son who is mildly dyslexic and one who is quite severe and goes to a special tutor twice a week.  The tutor says my son would have extreme difficulty in the local public or private school envirnoments. Our town does not have a school dedicated to those with dyslexia or nonverbal learning disorder, etc, although some larger metropolitan areas do.

  • Colleen

    I find this very offensive being married to a high school teacher.  My husband purely teaches theology for the love of it.  It is certainly not for the pay or the time off.  We choose to send our kids to Catholic schools, but we respect the decisions that each individual family makes about how to educate their children best.  Let’s not rip each other apart.

  • http://www.martinfamilymoments.blogspot.com/ Colleen

    We don’t homeschool because we have a pretty amazing deal with the local Catholic school, and not homeschooling allows me to work, which is a necessity for us.  However, my husband was homeschooled for a few years, and I know if we couldn’t afford Catholic school, I would seriously consider homeschooling.  

    I think there definitely are “weird” homeschoolers, just like there are “weird” Catholic school kids, “weird” public school kids, etc.  

    I don’t know why some commenters feel so strongly about putting down the education choices other families make.  I understand feeling pride in your own decision to best educate your children, but can’t we just play nice?  It does me no harm that you choose to homeschool and our neighbors choose public school and our cousins choose Catholic school. Who Cares?  As long as parents can honestly say they are trying their BEST to give their children what they need, then we are all doing a great job.  It’s when we aren’t doing our best that we feel guilty and start knocking down others….

  • Jenn

    Most homeschooled students I know who end up this advanced simply finish “high school” at age 14-16 and then attend community college for college-level course work (which is all AP classes are – low-level college courses.) Then at age 18, they can apply to a university as a transfer student.

  • http://class-factotum.blogspot.in/ the class factotum

    ” There’s a reason why teachers went to school for this and they know the subject best”

    Really? My state is desperate for high school and junior high math teachers, yet my husband, who was phi beta kappa in electrical engineering, tutored freshman chemistry, and was the head freshman physics grader his sophomore year, could not teach algebra without going through all the state education courses. Because knowing -what? – pedagogical theory? is more important than actually knowing math?

    In my city, (some) teachers appear to be more concerned with getting insurance coverage for Viagra or protecting the teacher who cut off the braids of her student than in making sure the students are learning.

  • http://class-factotum.blogspot.in/ the class factotum

     As far as the socialization goes, children are more resilient than we think.

    Exactly. Which is why it is not critical that a kid spend five hours a day in school with other children. Or go to pre-school.

    There are other ways to learn how to get along with other people. Like having brothers and sisters. Or being in Brownies. Or going to Sunday school. Or having friends. Or being on a soccer team.

  • http://class-factotum.blogspot.in/ the class factotum

     Perhaps the correlation is what I think it usually is: parental involvement. I suspect homeschooled children would do well even if they were in public school simply because their parents would be involved, helping them with their homework, talking to the teacher, etc.

  • Dottie

    I am also a “lefty secularist” who homeschools.  There are more of us than you would think.  Not everyone homeschools to protect their children from public school, I homeschool in order to best meet the needs of my children.  A homogenous, LCD group setting is not the best environment for any child who does not fit the mold. 

    I even have one that is about to graduate from public school and it’s obvious that you don’t have a child in public high school and that it’s been a long time since you were there yourself.  Many teachers are teaching classes outside of their usual subject area, many are unable to answer any questions not covered in their subject manuals.  If a homeschool parent wants to teach an AP course at home, they can have access to many materials similar to those used in high schools.  They also have the option of dual enrollment and their kids can skip over all that AP stuff for actual college credit.

  • http://www.truthbeautyandgoodnessintheworks.blogspot.com/ Cathmom2five

    Sharing this with the whole universe. :)

  • Dr. Paul Cates

    Like the way you wrote this. Keep up the good word.
    I have been in home schooling since it was illegal in all 50 states.
    If desire more information go to our website faithchristianmin.org

    RevDr. Paul Cates

  • Jeannine

    I do not homeschool my children simply because I do not have the disciplined personality for it . Two of the four had major language disability problems. I thought best to send them to the local public school because the special ed teachers were trained to help them work around their disability. I also complemented the teaching with after school tutoring w/a reading specialist & a speech therapist. They are now at or above the appropriate reading-writing level.

    I am glad that I took this route. My children are friends to many different types of people with different religions, ethnicities, education, …. (Is that also the case with homeschooled children? From the few I have contact with–I don’t think so.) My children generally are the only practicing Catholic in their groups. Am I worried that they may leave the faith? No. They know & come to either my husband or me to ask any question about anything. For example, the 16 yr old currently asks questions about homosexuality & why we as Catholics do not agree with same-sex marriage. I tell her what the Church believes in along with telling her about the good science for corroboration. Does she agree w/me right now? No because it is hard for a teenager to understand these counter-cultural beliefs & make them their own. But, I am working on it & she knows that I tell the truth.

    I want my children to be exposed to the secular nonsense (Does that happen in a home-schooled environment?) while they are living in my home so that I can talk about the Church’s beliefs on moral issues & the facts to back them up. They would then be able to defend their beliefs intelligently when they finally move out of my house. 

    Just for the record, I pray for my children everyday so that they never fall away from the Roman Catholic Church.

  • Jacksmithe

    The order of children (kids are the offspring of Goats) after their education thru high school is: #1 Homeschooled  #2 Private and parochial schooling #3 (last) Government schools. This is more than proven in College intrance exams. As far as their social ability goes # 1 and 2 are light years ahead of #3. What they are trying to tell you is that they are ashamed that their government trained children are more like robots and have a liking for the secular point of view on almost all subjects that the government tries to mandate. In other words they are not thinking democracy but socialism……

  • http://profiles.google.com/miklizro Lizzie Borden

    Delightful, thank you.

  • DJ Hesselius

    I don’t think this is necessarily true. It certainly is part of the reputation that my oldest son (with mild dyslexia) hates.  He is often “tested” by the local public schoolers at the sports club–its a competative group and can be a rough, smart alex-y crowd.  They try to see what he knows and what he doesn’t know.  And you know, he knows a lot of things they don’t know. And they know a lot of things he doesn’t.  Curriculum mismatch rears its ugly head again.

  • Tennismom

     I agree with your comment that, “Children need to be exposed to these things to develop interests.”  That is the exact reason why we homeschool. 

    Why is it so hard for you to imagine a parent teaching AP level classes? I am homeschooling my children, and I am teaching my 15 year old AP level Chemistry this year (our public school is not even offering the class).  My son advanced to the National round of the Chemistry Olympiad this year and based on the College Board released prior AP Chemistry exams posted on the CB website, he should score a 5 on the AP exam that he takes in a couple of weeks.   My 15 year old was also the highest scorer for his age in our entire state on the AMC12 exam this year.  No one at our local high school even had a high enough score to advance to the AIME. 

    Those who say that parents are incapable of teaching their kids have no idea how homeschooling works.

  • Lisa

    Firstly, if I tried to get by on six hours sleep as a teen, my health would have suffered badly for it. Different people have different sleep requirements, and I needed about 7.5 to 8 hours. (My sister only needed about 6.5, but my brother needed 9.) My 6 year old son requires about 9 hours. I’m not going to mess with is health, so that he can sit in a classroom. Please note that I do know what the school system is like, as my oldest son only graduated last year. I’m not basing my views on foggy memories from 25-30 years ago.

    Secondly, the fact that school worked for you doesn’t mean it works for everybody. I know my kids and my daughter, in particular, would not thrive in public school. FWIW, most adults who know here, even those who vehemently disagree with our decision to homeschool, are blown away by how bright she is, and by how much she knows about a variety of things. She’s absolutely thriving as a homeschooler.

    Thirdly, I’m not trying to keep my kids safe from every external conflict. I simply have no interest in helping them to “get through” the artificial environment of public school. I know my kids well enough to know that both of them, in slightly different ways, would suffer tremendously in a school environment. They’re learning to navigate peer relationships. They’re just doing so in a different environment than public school. They’re making friends. They’re just doing so in a different environment than public school. They’re learning to function in the real world, not in an artificial one, because the real world is where they spend their time.

    There is *no* real reason why academics should be handled in a school environment. We’re simply culturally conditioned to believe that such is the case.

  • http://twitter.com/HmschoolGeek Iama Geek

    Excellent article! I was one of those annoying weird kids in public school. My son was badly bullied by his psK teacher for being one. Being homeschooled for the past 8 years hasn’t made him any less weird or “annoying.” It just means that no one is shunning and taunting him for reading law books for fun and studying Klingon and Ancient Greek.

  • Mary Pat

    I agree with you, Colleen.  I have had my children in public or parochial school depending on their individual needs.  In conversations with my fellow parents I have always defended the choice to homeschool.  It is a wonderful choice for many families but I believe it is a very individual decision.   I could not do it myself based on some glaring shortcomings on my part plus some complicated needs in my children.  I am proud to say my children will defend their faith and values with friends, loved ones and strangers. They also don’t mind being the “different” one.   Just like homeschooled children, they learned this at home.  I know that homeschooling parents feel under attack by society. But when I read articles on Catholic – not homeschooling – websites, I am often saddened that my schooling choices for my children are put down in many of the comments.

  • San Flex

    Who says a parent can’t learn AP anything? It only reinforces what an adult can teach with maturity that the child can’t grasp. We, as parents are “ignorant” of any subject until we conciously learn about it. Anyone can learn. It is the willingness of the student. So you’re not good at math, find a tutor. Learn it with your child so that you can solve problems together (which is what math is all about, problem solving). Just because you are homeschooled does not mean you have to know everything. You are not alone. There are hundreds of other homeschoolers you can swap subjects with. That’s the beauty. After homeschooling 6 kids for 9 years we have absolutely no regrets. My kids are hard working, self-motivated, successful and happy. Bullies are out there, not just in school but in life and they come in all ages. Be aware and seek help. If socialization means removing children from exposure to demeaning or selective teaching then as a parent I have every right to teach them morally and respectively the views of others. Remember the teachers are teaching what others want them to teach. They may not agree with such teachings but are manipulated into teaching it by duty. If your child is NOT homeschooled be careful of what they ARE teaching them and if you don’t like it, SPEAK UP! You have every right to voice your misgivings.I must point out that homeschooling is not for everyone. It takes complete courage, dedication and sacrifice. If you are not 100% sold out on it, look elsewhere. It is not for the half-hearted. It is tough. Are you up for the challenge?

  • San Flex

    Well said Ben. We’d be “just another brick in the wall” just like the song. Do we really all want to be that? Homeschoolers are the cornerstones not the filler.

  • Nicknm

    Brilliant. Reminds me of a quote – “Forced association is not socialization.”

  • Denise

    I have two young boys who were in special education classes due to a learning disability and speech. One of them was having a really hard time with bullies. After years of prayer, my husband finally told me to pull them out. Can you imagine the shock and awe of the school ”professionals”? I’ve known these people for years and they won’t even greet me in the street. Now that I’ve been HS my boys for a year and a half, one of them looked to me and said, “I love homeschooling, because I acually learn things everyday”. I have absolutely no regrets and I’m pround of my “weird” kids.

  • Stephen

    Actually, yes, knowing how to teach is important.  While I’m sure that there’s plenty of useless stuff in those education courses, they’re there because it’s not enough to simply know the material very well.  There are more and more programs, though, designed to speed new teachers through certification so they can get in the classroom to start meeting the crying need for teachers that you mention.

  • Stephen

    “. . . the teachers of today are more concerned about their wages, their paid days off, and shortening the school day so they can get to the tennis court or golf course sooner.”  This is a clearly false generalization.  I know plenty of teachers who do not fit it.

  • Ksaffel

    I think my Mother-in-law had the same fears when we started homeschooling. However, she never told me her fears or negative thoughts. She was always loving and supportive of our choices (except for possibly our decision to deliver our babies at home). Recently, she called and told me how proud she is of both the children (who are 22, 16 and 14) and me. They are bright, articulate, hard working and have a good sense of humor. I enjoy spending time with them!

  • Jkyttyn

    What you’re stating is not just limited to home schooled children. Any child that is around people can go through this. Did you forget about the cliques that are in every school in America. What it sounds like to me is that you are making these children a stereotype when they are acting like any kid could act!

  • Nick

    but what about his other subjects?  do you have a science background that enables you to teach him effectively in this area?  

  • guest

    As a small business owner, I am so tired of homeschool kids running rampant at my business and handling every single thing, unbridled and unmonitored, only to have their parent smile adoringly at their progeny and comment on their darling “learning experiences” at the expense of broken and ruined products and nary an offer to pay for anything!  Our staff can spot these homeschooled, unsocialized, annoying and precocious terrors a mile away!  There ARE a handful of homeschool families who are teaching their children to behave well and to be accountable in these situations, but they are such a minority. But, alas, no juvenile spree killers so far…

  • leahoxendine

    “Public schools offer programs such as music, art, sports, business clubs, service clubs, etc. Children need to be exposed to these things to develop interests.”

    I am a homeschooled 16-year-old and let me tell you something. I have never been in a public school and yet I am active in literally dozens upon dozens of activities, sports and interests. So, no, you DON’T need to get “exposure” to these things through public schools. I have gotten excellent “exposure” simply by being allowed to pursue the things I am interested in, in the wonderful setting of home education. 

    “Parents coddle their children too much and schools are not full of bullies. There’s different groups of people and a kid will find friends if they look for people with similar interests.”

    Oh, so wanting to protect your children from sexual predetors, perverts and immorality is ‘coddling?’ So wanting to protect your children from brainwashing and indoctrination is wrong? And you say the schools are not full of bullies? Have you considered the adults? Many of the teachers themselves could be called ‘bullies’ for the way they treat their students. My mom lived through a nightmare of this sort, with a racist teacher who looked down on her heavily.
    OH and it’s NOT about ‘finding friends.’ That is the one of the LAST things I’d be worried about. What I’m concerned with is the purposeful indoctrination and brainwashing of these children, and the harmful influences and peer pressure from the other kids. Also, that I would be spending practically my whole childhood with strangers, not my family. Yes, I have friends. No, I don’t need to go to a public school to attain this.

    Oh yeah… and you claim parents are not capable of teaching their own children? You do realize this is one of the brainwashing propagandas used by the secular system? “Parents aren’t capable of teaching their own children…so hand them over to the government, instead.” Doesn’t that sound a little scary? Especially if the government is a flawed one? Doesn’t this sound like creation of followers, lemmings, people who don’t think for themselves because it’s too ‘dangerous?’ Well, what do lemmings do? Follow the leader off the cliff. That’s what’s happening with a lot of people today. I am ever so thankful that my parents home educate me so that I have been taught to think for myself and question things. To use my brain. I am thankful to be sheltered from the gross perversion found in public(and even private) schools. I am thankful to be learning in the way that God intended children to learn. From their parents. Not strangers. Homeschooling ROCKS!!! And, yes, my mom and dad are perfectly capable of teaching me advanced calculus and trigonometry.

  • Tennismom

    I am an engineer, but all subjects are studied in great depth.  My kids take literature classes online because I want them to discuss their books with peers.  I also want their writing to be evaluated by professional writers.  Homeschooling works. 
    My freshman took the PSAT for practice this year and scored in the 99% math and 98% in Reading and Writing.  My 7th grader took the SAT in hopes of qualifying for  CTY summer program classes; he scored 100 points higher than our public school’s graduating seniors in the Math section, and only 30 points lower in the Reading and Writing sections – which qualifies him for both math and humanity classes at CTY.  .

    By the way, none of my children qualified for our local public school’s “talented and gifted” program.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/37GNYASHBJTAU4I326XJ366T7M Connie

    Ms. Jeannine,
    My daughter attended public school from K-6. I taught at the schools she attended. While she was exposed to different cultures, faiths, and people, I must say that taking her out after the 6th grade was one of the best things we did for her. She says this herself. We used a full Catholic curriculum and she was taught catechism every day until her senior year. She was not exposed to some of the people and things that she had encountered in the public school years, but I have to admit, she is  well educated academically and in spiritual/faith/catechetical matters. She says had it not been for this specific training in her faith, she would not have been able to really counter questions and secular beliefs of others that she has been exposed to her first year of Public University. This also from university profs whom she says are very liberal. 

    She is faring very well. She had opportunities to work as an intern with a State REpresentative, worked on her dad’s campaign to public office, participated heavily in 4-H (she won/received $23,000 worth of scholarships), involved in pro-life work both in high school and university and she was named a National Merit scholar for 2011. She has a fully paid education.

    In building her intellectual mind through Catechetical training, she has been able to defend the faith and believe not because I told her to, but because she sees the TRUTH of our beautiful church for what it is. So, yes, children are exposed to the “secular nonsense” to a point, but one must always be cautious. Peace, sister

  • Jim

    Just checked to see if anybody cared about my post and found a bit of conversation around it. The fact that we all have examples to which we can point pretty much makes the point. The homeschooling population is a diverse one, and can boast many successful educations along with some unsuccessful educations. It is not fair to characterize all homeschooled children as “weird.” It is not fair to label all families who choose public school “less-than-Catholic” for choosing a secular milieu for their kids. It is not fair to call parochial school parents “not-Catholic-enough” for availing themselves of a local, but not particularly ortodox parish school (not all are unorthodox). And it is not fair to call those of us who choose an independent school whatever it is that one might call parents who choose independent schools. May we all, as parents, be able to go to God one day able to say that the decisions we made were in the best interests of out children. As an aside, please forgive the sloppiness of my original post. I’m not used to posting and made the rookie mistake of doing a cut-and-paste from Microsoft Word!

  • brooke

    “government trained children are more like robots…” (sigh) Could we please remain as polite as the others I’ve seen so far in the comments I’m reading? I homeschool my five children, but have numerous nieces and nephews who are not homeschooled and who are nothing like your statement.

  • brooke

    “government trained children are more like robots…” (sigh) Could we please remain as polite as the others I’ve seen so far in the comments I’m reading? I homeschool my five children, but have numerous nieces and nephews who are not homeschooled and who are nothing like your statement.

  • Cara Putman

    It always amuses me that this is the best argument people have. And it hasn’t changed in the 26 years since my parents started homeschooling me and my siblings. Still the main argument today as I homeschool my kids. 

  • brooke

    I agree fully that knowing how to teach is important. In fact, one can be a total whiz at a subject, but a terrible teacher. I have several friends with teaching degrees, though, who all agree that their university classes actually gave them next to nothing in “how to teach”. They told me they learned far more from being a mother.

  • brooke

    I don’t know. One of mine is ADHD and used to be extremely overly-sensitive. He was a bullying target and being homeschooled, has not totally come into his own. He couldn’t concentrate on schoolwork and being an involved parent wouldn’t have helped. Two more of mine have dyslexia. One is another extremely sensitive child who is also super clever and wouldnt’ have been caught. The other is so well-behaved, the tester said the school would have thought he was just unintelligent instead of extremely clever but also very dyslexic. There are many children who would not have done well regardless of where they were schooled. Certain environments really do suit certain children better.

  • brooke

    I’m a homeschooling mom and really offended you would say this about the many many dedicated and gifted teachers out there.

  • brooke

    With sports and neighbors and extra classes and family and friends and trips … yes, my kids are very exposed to people of all different backgrounds and beliefs. It’s been wonderful to have that exposure and yet be able to be there to guide the conversation and discuss those things with them from a mature point of view. I’m not against public or private schooling … but just wanted to mention that it works well.

  • brooke

    You’re fine. :) But remember, the school is dealing with kids who may have had struggles at home and the parents wisely recognized it and made the change. Or the kids had been taught with a different curriculum/approach. I’ve noticed schools assuming they had “fixed” the homeschooler. My son was one of them. He had accomplished so much in his little life when he went into school in 3rd grade after some craziness in our lives that necessitated me not schooling for a little bit. He was so far ahead in math, but it was only obvious because we used the same curriculum. However, he was “behind” in some other things … only because we had used different curriculum. His teacher was horrible. She had favorites in her classroom (all confirmed), disliked my son (was she possibly threatened by homeschooling?) and actually made disparaging remarks about him in front of a roomful of parents AT an awards assembly (!), lied to other teachers about him and her behavior (confirmed as well). This was a private school. Anyway, I have learned not to worry about “where” another child is academically, being that I don’t know what subjects they have covered, what curriculum/order they learned their information in, or what challenges that child faces. If I don’t know that, I can’t make a comment.

    But I do know that some homes don’t work as hard at schooling. They are also like the public schools in that they try various approaches which do not always work.

    I agree that some kids are annoying. Ideally, school would merely rub the rough edges off. It doesn’t always work that way.

  • brooke

    Really good point. I have at least two with significant dyslexia. I am an excellent teacher and have worked hard to be trained in working with dyslexic students. I teach my two at home and we do remediation an hour a day, plus tailoring their work to move them up as quickly as possible. However, if someone asked my 5th grader to write a paper – without knowing the background on that child, they would assume I was the worst homeschooler ever.

  • http://twitter.com/debval2008 debbie valley

    Homeschool children are far more aware of the secular nonsense which is why statistically they are more likely to be involved with civics as an adult.  Homeschool children generally participate in many activities which involve children from a variety of backgrounds.  I think everyone imagines that we lock our kids up and keep them from the ‘real world’. It is just the opposite for the majority of families.  Yes there are those ‘kids in a bubble’ families but they are the minority.

    Most of us are making sure our children remain in the faith by educating them far better than we were educated by our parishes as kids and better than most parishes are doing today.

  • Carrie

    I was thinking of this same topic the other day. My oldest of 4 wears a cowboy hat all the time and that is unheard of because it’s different or “he’s weird” . But everyone who sees him out in public (mostly adults) comment how they like his hat and it has given his 2 other brothers (and other kids in our homeschool group) the confidence to wear theirs also and the cowboy boot phase has started to run rampant in our homeschool group!  I know for sure, that had I wore something like that “back in the day” or if he went to public school he would be ridiculed for it. When people used to ask me, “How can you homeschool? My reply would be, “How could you not?” The subject was always changed instantly!  Or another one was, How come you homeschool?” My reply, “How come you send your kids to school?” Answering a question with a question stops them in their tracks, they aren’t expecting it and therefore, have no answer prepared or have not thought about what they do and why they do it…(because the masses do it and they don’t want to be ridiculed!)  I am so grateful for the opportunity to homeschool and be able to allow them to “Be” who they were created to be. “100% Weird”