The New Plague of Autism

by Matthew Hanley on April 12, 2012 · 171 comments

Back in November, the Wall Street Journal featured a prominent article with the following headline: “The Hidden Toll of Traffic Jams; Scientists Increasingly Link Vehicle Exhaust With Brain-Cell Damage, Higher Rates of Autism”. It was careful to point out that current evidence is circumstantial; no one is certain about such a connection between traffic, exhaust, brain-cell damage and autism. After all, vehicles today put out far, far less pollution than those operating decades ago, when autism rates were far, far lower.

It highlighted one study published in Environmental Health Perspectives which found that children born to mothers within 1,000 feet of a freeway in three major California cities were twice as likely to have autism. One of the researchers says “it looks like air pollution might be a risk factor for autism,” but sensibly cautions that “it is too soon for alarm” since there are so many possible genetic and environmental factors.

This type of finding is classified, in the field of epidemiology, as an ecological correlation. It is necessarily the first but weakest of all observations, since merely establishing a correlation between two variables is not nearly enough to prove causality. Nonetheless, it is still useful – even if an initial hypothesis with intuitive value later falls apart.

This is what science does; it moves from one form of observation to the next, using its own internally consistent methods, until something can be determined with reliability. What would we think of scientists who would abandon the line of inquiry between traffic and autism if, say, the automobile industry raised objections? Or who were content with a prevailing though unwritten “understanding” that even, say, modifications of previous automotive standards over the years warrant no research funding to determine if vehicle exhaust is any more dangerous than it used to be?

People would draw the obvious inference: they refrain from such a line of inquiry because an industry might take a hit, and a whole way of life might come under scrutiny.

I only need to observe my own mood souring while stuck in traffic to appreciate some of its infelicitous effects; I’m open to the concept that pollution might also affect our brains somehow. Still, I’m sceptical about this finding – or at least that this factor, if it is a factor, is a major factor. I could easily be wrong, and perhaps these authors will eventually be vindicated by the science. But I don’t object to the research in and of itself; I commend the Wall Street Journal for presenting one possible explanation, while not jumping the gun with statements that cannot be verified scientifically at this stage.

We only kid ourselves, however, if we think that all reasonable potential factors are all pursued with reasonably similar curiosity and urgency. Pollution and the automobile industry is one thing. But if another industry were to be even implicated – say, the abortion/bio-tech industry – scientists tend to run for the hills.

The astounding rise in autism

An astounding one out of every 88 American children (and one in 54 boys) now has autism – a 78 percent increase in just the last decade – according to the latest CDC estimate just released last month. By contrast, that figure stood at less than five per 10,000 children in 1980. In the UK, the prevalence rate has reached one out of every 64 children. This sharp rise over the past couple decades is all the more terrifying since so much about its causes remains shrouded in mystery. Even if some share of the increase might be attributable to changing diagnostic criteria, we are still dealing with an alarming epidemic. Only the full force of science – properly deployed and free from ideological shackles – can meet the pressing need for answers to this devastating condition.

At least one reason (not mentioned in the Wall Street Journal article) we should probably be sceptical of the theory that air pollution is a major driver of autism is that it does not correlate well to certain points in time, such as 1988, after which autism rates dramatically spiked. Was there some radically distinct and widespread event related to pollution in, say, 1981, 1988, and 1995, which might have triggered noticeable spikes in autism? If so, I cannot think of it.

Other commonly suggested explanations for the colossal increase in autism related disorders, such as television and other technological gadgetry – microwave ovens, cell phones, video games – or improved diagnostic capability similarly fail to match up neatly with the distinct spikes in autism rates observed following those years.

There is, however, another particular variable intimately associated with precisely those years after which autism rates skyrocketed, and for that reason alone – by appealing to that very same concept of ecological correlation – clearly seems to warrant further scientific evaluation. And yet most scientists won’t touch it. It is so highly sensitive, I dare not even say it. OK, if you force me to: vaccines.

Wait a minute: no, I don’t mean vaccines qua vaccines; as one of the most potent tools in the public health arsenal – having eradicated smallpox and now nearly polio, having controlled an array of childhood diseases, and having boosted life expectancy – vaccines coexisted quite well with steadily low rates of autism long before autism ever began to skyrocket.

I mean that something is different in many vaccines nowadays. And I’m not referring to mercury in vaccines. That too has been proposed as a culprit – and more or less dismissed as investigations have not conclusively established any linkage. Mercury couldn’t explain the dramatic explosion of autism in any event, since its levels did not increase in corresponding fashion over time; indeed, autism rates continued to climb even when and where mercury was no longer present in the vaccines.

Some vaccines are made with cell lines from aborted foetuses

I’m referring to the introduction of vaccines manufactured with electively aborted human foetal cell lines; these contain residual human foetal DNA and human retroviruses – contaminants known to prompt gene mutations which, in turn, can lead to autism. The previous, original vaccines used animal cells. I venture to say that few are even aware of this profound alteration of standard vaccine composition. Most “consumers” are not informed about this in plain language, either in public campaigns or at the point of vaccination.

Dr Theresa Deisher – a PhD in molecular and cellular physiology from Stanford University and an expert in the field of adult stem cell therapies – notes that this is the “only environmental event correlating with these statistical autism trend ‘change points’ which would impact almost all children”.

Deisher further notes that “similar change points, associated with the introduction of human foetal DNA contaminants in childhood vaccines, are also evident for Canada, the UK, and Denmark”. In the early 1980s, the MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, rubella) derived from aborted human foetal cell lines became the only one available in the United States, and by the end of the decade the incidence rate of severe autism had increased more than 15-fold; the same general pattern of elevated autism incidence was observed once this type of vaccine was introduced in the UK a few years later.

Autism rates have also gone up recently (particularly since 2001) in several developing countries which, compared to the United States, have radically different environments – different diets, different standards of hygiene and sanitation, and much less exposure to the modern western gadgets some have viewed with suspicion. Exposure to these types of vaccines – those with residual human DNA – is one thing, however, that children from dramatically dissimilarcountries do have in common.

None of this is to say that we can positively claim a causal relationship; that would be premature. There is currently no known basis for making a stronger statement, just as there isn’t with respect to air pollution as a potential risk-factor. Yet if you were doling out funds for research, which of these two variables would you judge to have the greater claim to prioritization?

Overlooking for a moment that only one variable exhibits a striking temporal association and supposing, just for the sake of argument, that aborted human foetal matter in vaccines and traffic jams both proved to contribute equally to rising autism rates, which of these two factors would translate more easily, quickly, inexpensively, and effectively into an intervention to prevent autism: supplying vaccines that don’t come from human foetal cell lines, as was originally the case, or imposing complex, invasive and authoritarian measures to micro-manage traffic and housing patterns?

Intriguing and compelling correlations

By any reasonable measure, these are intriguing and indeed compelling correlations – and as such this theory should not be ruled out. Neither should it be conflated with other vaccine-related theories because this is a distinct issue. It has been established that both the mercury and the attenuated measles virus component within the MMR vaccine have not led to the spikes in autism. (A representative literature review, for example, provided by UpToDate – a professional clinical service used by medical practitioners – covers this ground). This is important.

Yet that’s not all that is in the vaccine. Existing epidemiological studies (indicating little evidence of a link) have not yet properly accounted for vaccines specifically derived from human foetal cell lines as an isolated or co-variable. The stock phrase that the vaccine is not linked to autism – a generality repeated in the popular media and the scientific community – may therefore be excessively broad.

It should also be noted that a 2009 FDA publication regarding the safety of vaccines containing residual DNA cites the same expert studies from the early 1990s that were used as a basis for alleging the safety of a gene therapy trial (SCID-X1) which, in drastic contrast to their extremely low risk appraisal, resulted in four out of nine successfully treated patients subsequently developing cancer (T cell leukaemia); if nothing else, this should give us pause. Incidentally, the virus used to deliver the gene therapy is a close family member of another virus which contaminates the MMR II and Varivax (chickenpox) vaccines.

Furthermore, with knowledge gained over the last several decades from the fields of immunology and gene therapy, the unequivocal assertion that contaminants from human foetal cell lines pose no danger cannot be credibly made. There are also a series of other findings might reasonably raise some suspicion: we know that injected naked DNA can be transported to the brain, that shorter DNA fragments have a higher probability of entering the nucleus of a cell, and that present levels of residual human DNA in several vaccines far exceed limits recommended by the FDA.

Again, none of this is nearly enough to demonstrate anything conclusively. We are still in the realm of speculation. But as much as we do not know at present, there does seem to be sufficient biological plausibility – in addition to the ecological correlation – to reinforce the conclusion that further investigation is warranted. In fact, to leave this matter unstudied in the face of what authorities are calling a national emergency would seem to require a greater explanation. A front page story in the USA Today highlighted the need for better early diagnosis and treatment in light of the latest, alarming CDC report. (A subsequent storyreassured readers that vaccines are definitively not implicated but saw fit to mention the traffic and air pollution theory). Wouldn’t it also be a good idea to pursue with due diligence the identification of whatever may reasonably be deemed to be a possible and preventable trigger?

Safety and correctness

It is hardly a model demonstration of the scientific method to extrapolate from what is known about those other vaccine components and pronounce that all is therefore well if the safety of administering human DNA fragments through otherwise vindicated vaccines has to this day simply not been definitively determined. This would be like pronouncing BLT sandwiches are just fine after properly determining that the bacon, lettuce and tomatoes are all fine while shying away from looking into the mayonnaise, made with a new recipe, which many perceive to be routinely inclined to spoiling.

The repetitiveness of such imprecise assurances seems intended in part to discredit a legitimate line of inquiry – to label those who clamour for any further, properly thorough investigation as irrational reactionaries. But acknowledging on the one hand that there have been historical episodes of unfounded anti-vaccine hysteria is not incompatible with deeming this particular issue to be eminently worthy of investigation. In fact, what properly disinterested scientist would not be interested in actually examining it?

As it stands now, a real scare – whether justified or not – has led to downturns in vaccination coverage; resurgences of epidemics such as measles in the UK and whooping cough in California have been the unfortunate result. If compliance rates were to dip too low, the desired effect of vaccination programs – population-level or “herd” immunity – would be compromised. To insist on an honest and rigorous scientific investigation of this specific and unresolved question, far from being anti-vaccine, is fundamentally consistent with valuing their enormous contribution to public health.

We lionize scientists who supposedly leave no rock unturned in the search for truth and for the benefit of their fellow man. Nothing – and especially nothing with any religious overtones – will deter them from this noble pursuit.

But this is too touchy.

Scarce are the funds made available to investigate this matter; rare and easily ignored are the studies, such as a thorough 2011 review in the Journal of Immunotoxicology, which concluded that this matter is a legitimate concern. Apparently there are indeed limits to what the scientific establishment will pursue, and these limits happen to correspond to certain ideological standpoints (not moral precepts or religious injunctions) which are not to be questioned much less contradicted in polite society.

Safety today passes as a synonym for correctness or permissibility. Safety serves as an indispensible ally if not an outright justification for the modern project of absolute freedom. Rectitude or objective morality is, to many modern minds (particularly in the fields of science), a thing of the past; that which can be done safely or legally can’t be wrong. The flip side of this form of rationalization, of course, is that any evidence of a given practice’s harm jeopardizes its claim to legitimacy.

This is why any hint of such harm must be kept under wraps. To take but one example, we already know – strike that: most people do not know – that abortion is a major risk factor for breast cancer, even if scientific and governmental bodies have gone to great lengths to deny it. Or who can fail to see that this same type of ideological undercurrent accounted for the enormous disparity between our approaches to human embryonic stem cell research and adult stem cell research. The former received the lion’s share of funding and favourable media reporting – even as evidence mounted that the latter was proving safer and more effective. Yet deep down we still know that giving cover, either by commission or omission, to any side of an ethical debate is not what we typically associate with the job description of scientists.

We also know that stem-cell treatments derived from human embryos have led to tumours or were at times otherwise not well tolerated by the patients taking them. Is it utterly inconceivable that vaccines containing residual human DNA from aborted human foetal cells might have some adverse consequences, even if only as a trigger to those with a genetic predisposition for autism?

It appears that many in positions of influence and authority, particularly within the scientific establishment, need there to be no link between the aborted human foetal matter in vaccines and autism for reasons having nothing to do with science. Pro-lifers, on the other hand, do not need to establish such a linkage or indeed any other type of linkage in order to validate their position on the sanctity, dignity, and inviolability of human life; their arguments are moral and philosophical and do not depend on utilitarian reasoning – that is, on the various potential consequences of abortion. (Having an induced abortion, it is known but not widely broadcast, leads to premature deliveries in subsequent pregnancies, and pre-term babies are at greater risk for autism as well as cerebral palsy and other conditions).

They will always prefer vaccines that have not utilized human foetal cell lines – even if from a pragmatic perspective those vaccines that have used them end up proving to have no adverse consequences. Only those whose ethical stances depend on consequences could be threatened by getting to the bottom of this – not counting, of course, the unscrupulous driven strictly by financial incentives.

The real question, then, is: do the scientific establishment and their funders have such little regard for the suffering of their fellow man – the devastation endured by children and families with autism – that they simply refrain from investigating this specific question head on, with the urgency it deserves, just because it relates to abortion, even if remotely, and therefore might undermine it?

It is possible that there is another explanation for the meteoric rise in autism rates – that human DNA fragments in these vaccines are not the culprit – or is even likely that a diverse combination of factors is to blame. We can only hope that science will uncover and bring to light (for those are different things) whatever is behind this tragic epidemic. But those presently framing and perpetuating the narrative that the case is closed – the verdict of safety is safely in – seem not so much to be purely pro-vaccine as they are anti anti-abortion.

Predetermined politicized positions are precisely what science supposedly repudiates.

Matthew Hanley is the author, with Jokin D. Irala, of Affirming Love, Avoiding AIDS: What Africa Can Teach the West

  • http://onesimplemama.com/ Erika Marie Higgins

    You are right about the thimerosol not used in the MMR, I had forgotten about that, thanks for the correction. Still, there have not been enough studies (like Deischer’s) specifically on how residual human DNA mixed in with our own DNA (or our children’s) affects or does not affect us. VAERS is only a place to keep a record of reported reactions. This is not the same as studying long-term effects of vaccines or comparing those who have been fully vaccinated with those who have not over a period of time. Many studies have been done, some have been published while many have not. Most pharmaceutical companies do not sponsor these studies once their product has been approved and is in the market. And since they can’t be sued for any adverse reactions, what sort of accountability do they have for making sure they are safe?
    Either way, vaccine safety should never be set aside for whatever good intentions there are for making and using vaccines and hopefully safety studies will always continue and will consider all the different variables and not ignore the “politically incorrect” ones.
    Many have used the accepted use of aborted-fetal cell lines in vaccines to justify the funded-research and use of embryonic stem cell research for other “life saving” purposes.
    Aside from these aborted-fetal cell line vaccines, the forced sterilization laws of the early-mid 1900′s in the US used compulsorary vaccination laws as their legal justifications. Again, aside from the safety questions behind vaccinations (which we could argue about all day which I’d rather not), there still exists the moral component of the use of these aborted-fetal cell lines. If parents who want to use vaccines as a measure of disease prevention but who also don’t want to compromise their consciences by taking part in this cooperation (even if only remote), how will they EFFECTIVELY convince the pharmaceutical companies to offer alternatives? 

  • http://twitter.com/justthevax Catherina+ScienceMom

    yes – how (even theoretically), would a minute amount of DNA get from the leg into millions of cells in the brain of a child?

  • http://onesimplemama.com/ Erika Marie Higgins

    And there you have it: as long as vaccines are saving children’s lives, it doesn’t matter how they are made or whose bodies are used to make them.

  • Becky05

    No one’s bodies are being used to make them — cell lines, derived from cells taken from human bodies, are used to make them. The evil is back at the foundation of the cell line.

  • Becky05

    I am wondering if people do not understand what a “cell line” is?

  • http://onesimplemama.com/ Erika Marie Higgins

    Ok. There you have it: as long as vaccines are saving lives and as long as enough time has passed since the evil, then it doesn’t matter how many aborted babies’ bodies were used to create the cell lines that are still used today for these life-saving vaccines (as well as other consumer products and consumer product testing).  

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    Only a matter of time before the call for vax vs unvaxed studies. How unethical to leave a whole bunch of people unprotected in the name of research that has, in truth, already been done. and what, exactly would such a study show? How would you be able to separate any effect from the variables? There are plenty of studies of vaxed with a particular vaccine vs non vaxed with that one. You need to take one variable at a time wherever possible. 

    Why should pharma companies sponsor studies after their initial ones? Wouldn’t there be an outcry of COI should that be the case? On one hand you contend that Pharma is entirely evil and on the other that they should sponsor the post marketing production into their products. See an issue there?
    Which studies are you labelling as “politically incorrect”because if those are ones looking at vaccines and autism there have been dozens so not really an area that has been shied away from. 
    And you are seeing stem cell research as something terrible. Oh dear. I don’t think you understand that science and its life saving and life changing potential too well but that is somewhat off topic.

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    How many aborted babies bodies were/are used? Vaccines aren’t foetal smoothies you know.

    How many lives do you think they have saved?

  • http://onesimplemama.com/ Erika Marie Higgins

    Over 80 KNOWN separate and elective abortions were used in the production of the present-day rubella vaccine (used in MMR). (http://cogforlife.org/fetalvaccinetruth.htm#The_Abortions_and_Intention_of_Creating_Vaccines_)This is a fact. As far as your comment about stem cell research, adult stem cell research is promising and has no moral dilemmas attached to it in the same way embryonic stem cell research does. Since this is a Catholic website, I am assuming all comments in regards to this article and in regards to this issue are taken from an authentic Catholic  perspective and keep in mind that Catholics are opposed to both abortion and to embryonic stem cell research no matter what ‘life-saving’ or ‘life-changing’ potentials they may or may not offe
    r.

  • Becky05

    The issue isn’t the time, it is the remoteness from the evil — which were the abortions involved.  The question is one of weighing very remoted cooperation with a grave evil, already done and unpreventable with the much more proximate participation in the evil of failing to protect one’s own children and the population as a whole.

  • Becky05

    The issue of remote vs. proximate cooperation with evil, and formal vs material cooperation, is standard Catholic theology.

  • Stella

     Are you going to insult each and every person with a disability now?

    Blindness did not render me unaware of the needs of others.

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    “Autism is not exactly “intrinsic’ like Downs Syndrome or other genetic mutations.”How is it not intrinsic? Autism is a condition one is born with.I do, actually, wish that vaccines could be developed without using foetal cell lines because  this can prove to be a bar  to their uptake for some people whose beliefs I respect as I know they are deeply held. What I object to is contorting the issue to say that, because they contain ingredients derived by means deemed by some to be unacceptable, they are, therefore, responsible for a whole host of conditions. I particularly object when autism, my son’s condition (and yes he is severely autistic and I *do* take offence at the article’s title) is held up to be a fearful fate and  used to try to cheat others (who may not hold the same beliefs on abortion) out of vaccinating and protecting their children’s health.

  • Stella

     This appears to be the poster site for confirmation bias, shifting the blame and the othering of anyone outside our special, little group. Shame on you.

  • http://twitter.com/BorisOgon Boris Ogon

    This piece is little more than a warmed-over Cogforlife press release. I’m surprised it left out the homologous recombinaltion tiniker.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Hansen/653456832 Scott Hansen

     Insult Catholicism? Catholicism is an insult to humanity.

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    Of course, autism has nothing to do with the father does it? 

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22495309 
    “we show that de novo point mutations are overwhelmingly paternal in origin (4:1 bias)”
    What about his age?
    This one shows that having either an older mother OR father increases the chances of ASD
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22277122 
    Or what about dad specifically?
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16953005 
    “ Offspring of men 40 years or older were 5.75 times (95% confidence interval, 2.65-12.46; P<.001) more likely to have ASD compared with offspring of men younger than 30 years, after controlling for year of birth, socioeconomic status, and maternal age."

  • http://onesimplemama.com/ Erika Marie Higgins

    I agree, this theory of the aborted-fetal cell lines in vaccines causing autism, nor any other theories about vaccines causing autism, should be used as a scape goat for conditions we face today that we either do not understand yet or do not have enough experience with yet.
    Like I said before, I do not hold any strong opinions on whether vaccines cause or do not cause autism. However, as someone who values facts and research, I would like to see more in-depth and funded research done with the residual human DNA used in vaccines as it seems there is still a lot that hasn’t been questioned or researched on that subject alone. As a Catholic, I value the dignity of human life and think the use of these cell lines is a very serious moral matter that has been swept under the rug with the excuse that vaccines protect the population and save children’s lives. (any good the vaccines have done does not cancel out the terribly wrong use of these cell lines) You are right though, autism should not be used to scare people into acknowleging this moral problem or scare them into waking up and doing something effective about it.

  • ANON

    How funny that this should show up here.  My children have rec’d all vaccines except the chicken pox and the hepatitis A because they contain aborted fetal tissue.  I’ve been having guilt feelings that I’m needlessly exposing them children to chicken pox when there is a vaccine to lessen/prevent it.

    I’ve been praying very hard for a sign about what to do, especially asking St. Gianna’s intercession (as she was a pediatrician).  And now I happen to see this article.

    So is this an answer to prayer?  Guess I’d better show my husband.

    p.s. My cousin has Asberger’s disease and he has many amazing talents and abilities that many of us don’t have.  I don’t feel that this article was meant to dehumanize those with autism spectrum issues, but to show a correlation which should be explored.

  • Blueprairie

    Pot, meet kettle.

  • Blueprairie

    Pargontwin, since the Pill is the most commonly used contraceptive in this country, if your utterly impossible claim were even remotely true, 90% of American women would be childless.  

    Do you bother to do the arithmetic before you make claims like this?

  • IgorK07

    “I’ve been praying very hard for a sign about what to do, especially asking St. Gianna’s intercession (as she was a pediatrician).  And now I happen to see this article.”

    Regardless of your feelings on whether to utilize the vaccines containing these cells due to abortion issues, there is absolutely no indication that fetal dna in them contributes to ASD. Consider that to the proponents of this idea, vaccines are responsible for autism regardless of their human DNA contents.

    As for the moral issue, it is a bit more complicated then the misleading attempts to directly link the vaccines to abortion. The viral stocks used to make these vaccines are grown in human cells. These cells were derived from aborted fetuses back in the 1960s and 1970s and have been propagated in cell culture continuously ever since. TO put it differently, no abortions were necessary to derive these vaccines for 50 years, and whatever the reason for the original abortions, the fact is that they saved countless from death and suffering.  

  • Susan

    through the bloodstream.

  • Becky05

    Also, the statement from the Vatican notes, that for the case of rubella, if a parent does NOT vaccinate their child, and their child exposed a pregnant woman to the illness, the parent thus bears some responsibility for the malformations and even the abortion which may occur.
    “This is particularly true in the case of vaccination against German measles, because of the danger of Congenital Rubella Syndrome. This could occur, causing grave congenital malformations in the foetus, when a pregnant woman enters into contact, even if it is brief, with children who have not been immunized and are carriers of the virus. In this case, the parents who did not accept the vaccination of their own children become responsible for the malformations in question, and for the subsequent abortion of foetuses, when they have been discovered to be malformed. “  http://www.cogforlife.org/vaticanresponse.pdf

    It is important to point out that the sin is the voluntary abortion, not the creation of a human cell line itself, which have also been created from tumors, etc. The creation of these cell lines was wrong because they were complicit in the abortion. None of these abortions were performed in order to make vaccines, the majority were done due to exposure to rubella. These were, of course, still gravely morally wrong, but the continued use of the rubella vaccine prevents any further danger from such an exposure, and saves many lives of unborn babies every year.

  • Becky05

    The Vatican statement says that the use of the vaccines is ” a form of very remote mediate material cooperation, and thus very mild, in the performance of the original act of abortion,” and also states that parents who choose not to vaccinate for rubella are responsible for the malformations and any abortions performed in response to a rubella exposure in a pregnant woman.  A foot note to the statement, “In this case, the parents who did not accept the vaccination of their own children become responsible for the malformations in question, and for the subsequent abortion of foetuses, when they have been discovered to be malformed. ” It seems that the Vatican statement, when read in its entirely, is clearly on the side of vaccination for rubella. I didn’t make up the idea of remote cooperation, nor am I minimizing the deaths of these babies, but I want to prevent the death of many, many more babies, which was common before the advent of the rubella vaccine.
    In this case, the parents who did not accept the vaccination of their own children become responsible for the malformations in question, and for the subsequent abortion of foetuses, when they have been discovered to be malformed. ” It seems that the Vatican statement, when read in its entirely, is clearly on the side of vaccination for rubella. I didn’t make up the idea of remote cooperation, nor am I minimizing the deaths of these babies, but I want to prevent the death of many, many more babies, which was common before the advent of the rubella vaccine.

  • Amy

    Are you saying there is no such thing as autoimmune disorders?  Because that is the definition of autoimmune disorders:  the inappropriate immune response of the body in attacking its own cells.  In other words, the body gets “confused” and thinks it is attacking a foreign host, but it is actually attacking itself.  By the way, the treatment for autoimmune diseases is often immunosuppression–medication which decreases the immune response.

  • IgorK07

    Well put, many of the diseases one has to vaccinate against result in miscarriages or stillbirth if contracted by pregnant women. The truth is, if you are concerned about the moral nature of vaccination, any concerns on morality of using that particular line are pretextual for anti-vaccination stance on all types of vaccine as containing something harmful, even if it’s not the continually changing list of ingredients which must be responsible. 

    Someone even mention ed that this particular accusation makes little logical sense since the line has been used since the sixties but the explosion in ASD incidence is a recent event, coinciding with change in diagnostic criteria in the DSM and the resultant drop in “retardation” diagnoses . But of course that correlation is inexplicably ignored as improbably by those who are in search of correlations pointing to vaccines. 

  • IgorK07

    Well put, many of the diseases one has to vaccinate against result in miscarriages or stillbirth if contracted by pregnant women. The truth is, if you are concerned about the moral nature of vaccination, any concerns on morality of using that particular line are pretextual for anti-vaccination stance on all types of vaccine as containing something harmful, even if it’s not the continually changing list of ingredients which must be responsible. 

    Someone even mention ed that this particular accusation makes little logical sense since the line has been used since the sixties but the explosion in ASD incidence is a recent event, coinciding with change in diagnostic criteria in the DSM and the resultant drop in “retardation” diagnoses . But of course that correlation is inexplicably ignored as improbably by those who are in search of correlations pointing to vaccines. 

  • Alit

    I am saying that I would rather remove your intolerance than his Autism. Just because he is differently abled does not mean that he’s worth less than you, or anybody else. I teach him to adpt as best he can to this life, to reach his potential. The same I teach my daughter. What “symptoms of autism” are you referring to exactly? You have implied many things in this vile writ, trying to deny it does not make it less so. You refer to “this devastating condition” really? As I type this I hear the laugh of my son as hy plays outside in the sunshine. He most certainly does not sound devastated, or broken, or defective. Just because you or I do not understand why he laughs does not make him less happy for it. I tried very hard to look in your article for a smidgen of kindness, any reference to patience, or joy. But found none of the fruit of the Spirit in whose name you write. You can try to defend your position as much as you like, your stance is clear. A plague indeed.

  • Amy

    How do you know that “Autism is a condition one is born with”?  I have a friend who has a child with autism who says he was definitely not born with it.  He developed autism at about age 2.  Although no one is sure, I personally think that possibly autism has both a genetic and environmental cause.  Perhaps there is a genetic predisposition in combination with environmental triggers of the expression.  I think some cancers may work this way, too, although no one is certain. 

  • Amy

    Also, if you are born with autism and it is genetic, how do you explain the sharp rise in the incidence of autism in the last several years?

  • IgorK07

    “How do you know that “Autism is a condition one is born with”?  I have a friend who has a child with autism who says he was definitely not born with it.  ”

    This makes no sense. Recent studies indicate that  at least a percentage of cases have a genetic component to them. At any rate, how can someone vouch they weren’t born with it when the condition manifests itself and becomes detectable once the child fails to hit certain developmental milieus.  There are numerous genetic conditions which become apparent only much later in life. Why you think someone has a way of telling what specific genetic abnormality they were born with? I know I may have a higher chance of contracting prostate cancer because of family history, which merely gives me the rough odds without identifying the actual genes responsible. Just because I don’t have prostate cancer now doesn’t mean there is no genetic component to it. 

    Autism is not necessarily a single condition, and exists only as a diagnostic criteria grouping certain symptoms with varying degrees of severity. It may, and likely does, environmental factors or triggers, and research is constantly being done to eliminate them one by one. Trying for a particular cause regardless of continuous negative results only further prevents further research into more promising areas. 

  • http://twitter.com/justthevax Catherina+ScienceMom

    How do the DNA fragments get from the muscle, past all those DNAses, into the blood stream? How do they get to the brain? How do they get out of the blood vessels, across the interstitial space, across endothelial cells and glia, past more DNAses, across the cell membrane of neurons, across the nuclear membrane of neurons, into the nucleus and how are those fragments integrated into the DNA of enough neurons to have an effect? How large/long are those DNA fragments anyway (in base pairs)?

  • http://twitter.com/justthevax Catherina+ScienceMom

    Amy – Igor describes it very well, but have a look at Huntington’s Disease – the sufferers are entirely “normal” and unsuspecting for decades, yet their ultimate neurodegenerative disorder is entirely genetic.

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    Of course autoimmune disorders exist and that, in itself, highlights the error implicit in your first statement. In that, you contend, “Apparently, the body can discriminate between animal cells and their own cells easily, but not as easily between a fellow human’s (aborted) cells and their own, thereby triggering a response of self-attacking of their own tissue.”

    Do you have any citations to back that up or does “apparently” just mean you believe that to be the case?
    None of the diseases you cite before that statement are initiated after receipt of foreign human tissue. Certainly not MG!  I think you should look at the role of T-cells in the immune response. 

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    Just in case it isn’t clear DNAses are enzymes that break DNA up. 

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    Additionally, work looking into various factors such as parental age etc are showing that as well as genetics there may be factors involved in autism that are present before birth.

    Work by scientists such as Eric Fombonne is showing that the signs of autism can be detected much earlier than the age at which it is currently diagnosed. He has also done some excellent work looking at home movies of autistic children pre diagnosis and even pre referral for testing and found identifiably autistic traits compared to controls.
    I know parents of autistic children who would say their child acquired the condition but many more who would say otherwise. I knew my child was different from birth. We could have a battle of anecdotes but science is increasingly showing that if the causes of autism are to be understood then the clues lie before birth.

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    Work by scientists such as Eric Fombonne is showing that the signs of autism can be detected much earlier than the age at which it is currently diagnosed. He has also done some excellent work looking at home movies of autistic children pre diagnosis and even pre referral for testing and found identifiably autistic traits compared to controls.
    I know parents of autistic children who would say their child acquired the condition but many more who would say otherwise. I knew my child was different from birth. We could have a battle of anecdotes but science is increasingly showing that if the causes of autism are to be understood then the clues lie before birth.

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    Far better diagnosis and far better awareness accounts for a large part of it. Children we would now call autistic used to be diagnosed as mentally retarded or as suffering from childhood schizophrenia – a diagnosis still realtively common in France which has lower autism rates than, say, the UK or USA. 

     Add to that children are getting diagnosed at ever younger ages: my son was 2 and a quarter and the average age for diagnosis has been getting closer to the third year of life from the 5th over the same period as autism prevalence has risen(though it was perfectly obvious he was autistic long before that age).
    Again, look at the autism rates in France, a country where tha average age for a diagnosis of autism is 8 years. Much of this younger diagnosis has to do with social factors too. More families need both parents to work so more children go to daycare. Behaviour of a child that would not be perceived as problematic in the home or even be displayed at all may be detected against that of peers.Add to that the widening definition of autism and you have to include people who would have previously been written off as eccentric or anti-social. The prevalence of severe autism hasn’t risen as quickly as the prevalence as a whole.Add to that rising parental age which several well conducted studies have shown to have an impact on autism prevalence and you have many compelling factors why autism appears to be on the increase.

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    The correlation has been explored for more than a decade and in dozens of peer reviewed studies and found to be merely a correlation. There has been no study linking vaccines to autism that has withstood scrutiny and some have even been shown to have been fraudulent. 

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    Thank you, Alit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002573834871 Rachel Cohen-Rottenberg

    Editor said, “You do no service to your child by pretending the disorder is
    indistinguishable from him–if he had been born with an eye defect or a
    non-functioning leg wouldn’t you recognize the defect for what it is,
    teaching him to overcome it while at the same time searching for ways to
    fix the problem?”

    Hi Editor,

    Autistic adult here. *waves* Yes, we autistic adults exist and can speak our minds, so we really don’t need you to tell us whether anyone has done us a disservice or not. We’ll decide on that, thank you.

    My autism is indistinguishable from me. I do not not wish it gone. This is my life. This is who I am. I am not part of a “plague.” I am not defective. I have my difficulties, but I am just as God made me. And from what I can see, you’ve got difficulties of your own. Chief among them is the fact that you can’t see the experience of disability as anything other than “defect” or “suffering” or “tragedy” or “plague.” How about you read some work by disabled people and disability theorists, and disability historians, and disability activists, and then you can decide whether it’s okay to use the word “plague” to describe our conditions.

    It’s not enough that you think you’re doing the right thing, or that you think you’re doing no harm. You need to LISTEN TO US. You don’t know what it means to be disabled, and you really should ask us. You’ll be surprised at what you hear. We disabled people consistently rate our quality of life much higher than do non-disabled people and medical professionals. Consistently.

    Don’t use the word “plague” to describe our condition. It’s dehumanizing, and from dehumanization comes all kinds of harm.

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    Cells were taken from fetuses that were aborted in the 1960′s. The cells were used to develop the Human Diploid Cell Strains(HDCS). Some cells were taken from TWO fetuses and millions have been grown from just a handful of the original ones. The abortions were not done under coersion, nor were they done ONLY for the purpose of scientific study. These cells have been growing under laboratory conditions since the 1960′s. How many shots have been made from those cell lines, how much death and suffering has been prevented. How many more terminations have been prevented because of congenital rubella?

  • http://autismum.com/ Autismum

    I’m replying up here cos the text area further down is just silly!

    Cells were taken from fetuses that were aborted in the 1960′s. The cells were used to develop the Human Diploid Cell Strains(HDCS). Some cells were taken from TWO fetuses and millions have been grown from just a handful of the original ones. The abortions were not done under coersion, nor were they done ONLY for the purpose of scientific study. These cells have been growing under laboratory conditions since the 1960′s. How many shots have been made from those cell lines, how much death and suffering has been prevented. How many more terminations have been prevented because of congenital rubella?

  • Victoria

    “ Some of the comments here only help drive this writer’s points in harder about our unwillingness to look into this theory further.”  I cared for a young deaf boy who developed autism. It was so sad to see him lose the ability he had developed to communicate with others. I would gladly have had the boy as he was and done without the autism. The person and the disability are not synonymous.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002573834871 Rachel Cohen-Rottenberg

     Amen to that!

  • Deatheatersims

    This is stupid. Abortion doesn’t cause autism, abortion prevents autism. As soon as we have a prenatal test for autism, we’ll be able to eliminate most cases of autism. 

    Abortion doesn’t cause diseases, syndromes and kills far less women than pregnancy does. And if you really cared about preventing unwanted pregnancy, you would not also oppose contraception. You just want women barefoot and pregnant without any rights, so come out out and say it. “We hate women,” and stop with pretending to assign diseases to abortion or pretending to care about women or babies.

  • http://twitter.com/justthevax Catherina+ScienceMom

    Abortion would not prevent autism, but autists – thankfully, a prenatal test for “autism” will never be possible.

  • Deatheatersims

    Abortion would prevent most cases of autism if a prenatal test is developed. A prenatal test would probably be the best way to prevent most cases of autism as there are many genetic factors and the post-natal changes in the brain are likely irreversible or might cause severe damage to the brain. 

    Abortion stops a pregnancy. A woman has a right to decide who inhabits her body, not you. It is a woman’s choice as to whether to continue a pregnancy whether or not it shows markers for disability. Not everyone can handle a severely disabled child. Just because you view it as a gift doesn’t mean other people and their parents do. Neurodiversity people are just as bad as the anti-vaxxers except you preach diversity and tolerance but any disagreement and you’ll invoke Godwin’s law after a few paragraphs. 

  • Cbursle

    So, are we going to see any evidence that residual DNA causes autism, or even any potential mechanism by which that might occur?  After all, we are exposed to foreign DNA every second.  Human and otherwise.
    Since any science appears to be lacking here, I can only assume that the hypothesis above derives from some kind of belief that God may be punishing us for misusing cells from murdered humans by afflicting innocent children with this “plague” as you call it.  
    Lovely God you believe in if that is the case.