Pearl Harbor: Chosen Nation and the Immaculate Conception

Several years before becoming Pope, Cardinal Ratzinger published two candid interviews with Peter Seewald.  The first was entitled Salt of the Earth and the second was entitled God and the World.  The second interview was published in German in the year 2000 and did not receive its English title until 2002. The timing of the God and the World interview is significant since about one year later the events of September 11, 2001 took place and the interview contained a stunning prophecy concerning human embryonic experimentation.

The future Pope told Peter Seewald: "God will take action to counter an ultimate crime, an ultimate act of self-destruction, on the part of man.  He will take action against the attempt to demean mankind by the production of slave beings.  There are indeed final boundaries we cannot cross without turning into the agents of the destruction of creation itself, without going far beyond the original sin and the first Fall and all its negative consequences" (pp. 134-5).  In the interview, he basically pointed to human embryonic research and human cloning reaching a point that would force God to 'take action'.

Jews and Christians might remember that God takes the ritual murder of innocent human life seriously; whether thrown off a cliff (Amorite/Canaanite ritual), burned at a pillar (Amorite/Canaanite ritual), or dissected under a microscope (Post-Modern ritual). Almost four thousand years ago God told Abraham that He removes such peoples once such abomination "reached its full measure" (cf. Gen 15:16 & 1 Kg 21:26).  Even chosen nations can quickly become abominations when they adopt ritual child-sacrifice.

According to the Times Online, Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Willams recently "poured scorn on the 'chosen nation myth of America, meaning that what happens in America is very much at the heart of God's purpose for humanity'".  He apparently forgot who saved England in World War II and where the chosen nation "myth" began.  However, he may be right that the status is fast becoming a myth, that the salt is losing its flavor, as America hemorrhages from its moral superiority artery with its lack of abhorrence to human embryonic research.

With the anniversary of Pearl Harbor and America's entrance into WWII on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, we should take time for national reflection on God's providence, the connection between human embryonic stem cell research and the events of September 11, 2001.  Have we passed a chance for re-conversion to Christ?  Now that American scientists have crossed the barriers that had prevented cloning of primates, we should consider whether we really want to see Cardinal Ratzinger's prophetic statement in God and the World fully realized.

Providence and WWII

 We simply do not understand divine providence while it is happening.  It requires faith-filled reflection.  Let those who wish to mock the eyes of faith mock it.  It was Vatican II that reminded us of the need for eyes of faith to discern "genuine signs of the presence or purpose of God" (GS #11.1).  During WWII, America was a nation chosen to deliver humanity from the grip of murderous fascism and its eugenicist underpinnings.  America was the salt of the earth.  It was December 8, 1941 when America declared war on Japan for Japan's December 7 bombing of Pearl Harbor.  What many Americans forget is that December 8 is the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, not just our national entrance into WWII.  That Feast Day is of national significance to the USA because, according to the Catholic Church — since the 19th Century –, the Virgin Mary is the Patroness of the United States under the title of the 'Immaculate Conception'.  It is why the Basilica in our nation's capital is called the National Basilica of the Immaculate Conception.  Sitting between Virginia and Maryland is our nation's capital and the Basilica that honors our national patroness.  America may not be Catholic, but God certainly wills that all men freely choose entrance into the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.

The connection between our WWII providential mission and the Feast Day of the Immaculate Conception could easily be ignored if not for the fact that Japan surrendered to the United States on public radio on August 15, 1945.  Yes, on the Feast of the Assumption of the Virgin Mary, the United States heard the public surrender of Japan via radio.  The Feast of the Assumption, which theologically further reveals the Immaculate Conception, was the public surrender that ended WWII and led to the final treaty.  The Virgin expressly revealed her concern of the coming World War at Fatima and now, through Catholic feast days, had revealed she was with America in halting WWII.  America was a chosen nation.  There is not the space here to discuss why the good are allowed to suffer evil; we have only the crucifixion of Christ as God's answer to these questions.  God loves us and chose to suffer with us.  God does not take away human freedom in order to prevent evil and he knows human cruelty and personal suffering first-hand due to such freedom.

What is at point here is that dates can have significance for the recognition of divine providence.  At Fatima, the Virgin Mary appeared on May 13, 1917 and warned of how to prevent WWII through a special consecration to her Immaculate Heart.  Sadly, the requested consecration was delayed until after the Pope was shot on May 13, 1981 and dates again revealed Fatima's importance to the world.  Despite the delay of the consecration, the Virgin still chose a nation united to her as the Immaculate Conception to reveal her power in heaven and still intervened to deliver humanity from WWII.  God never stopped trying to save us from the horrors engendered by misuse of our freedoms.  God was not to blame for the horrors of WWII; evil men were.

WWIII and America

President Bush continues to point at Iran and ask if we really want to see WWIII.  Obviously, we do not!  The solution however is not bombing Iran before it gets nuclear weapons.  Rather, the primary solution is becoming a moral light so bright that the other nations listen to us.  The solution is listening to what the seer at Fatima had to say in a letter to the Pope from 1982.  It still has application.  Even though the Pope did the requested consecration in 1984 and the Virgin did free us from the Cold War with Russia, the delayed consecration has left us with the consequences of our delay and the spread of moral errors.  Listen to Sister Lucia from the Vatican's own release of the Fatima messages:

The third part of the secret is a symbolic revelation, referring to this part of the Message, conditioned by whether we accept or not what the Message itself asks of us: 'If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, etc.'. 

Since we did not heed this appeal of the Message, we see that it has been fulfilled, Russia has invaded the world with her errors.  And if we have not yet seen the complete fulfilment of the final part of this prophecy, we are going towards it little by little with great strides.  If we do not reject the path of sin, hatred, revenge, injustice, violations of the rights of the human person, immorality and violence.

There is greater promise of peace through conversion and the rejection of sin than there is in the might of our arms and pre-emptive strikes which the Church has warned against.

2001: Salt Need Not Lose its Flavor

When Ratizinger gave Seewald his prophetic statement on 'slave beings' in God and the World, he could not have known that just a few months later in 2001 the world would be consumed with George W. Bush's deliberations as to whether to allow further funding for destruction of more human embryos with federal funds.  Such funding had quietly begun in the administration before him.  The whole world watched from early 2001 until early August to see what the superpower of the world would rule concerning human embryonic stem cell research and the use of 'spare' human embryos.  Would it be halted or would the door remain open to the future production of 'slave beings' and human-animal mixes?

Bush came down in favor of protecting human life where federal funds were concerned.  However, the door was left open for laboratories across the U.S. to create and destroy human embryos at will and most of our elected representatives lacked the moral compass to outlaw the horrible affront to human dignity.  Laboratories merely would not receive federal funding involving further destruction of human embryos.  Thirty-three days after Bush's decision, America was terribly shaken.  Its financial center in New York was in flames and its military center in D.C. was disabled.  Travel and finance came to a halt.  The worst attack on American soil in 60 years almost brought America to its knees.  That same morning, the front page of the New York Times had run an article that Congress was demanding more funds for new human embryonic stem cell research.  It was September 11, 2001.

On the coming anniversary of Pearl Harbor (the vigil of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception), America might reflect with its Patroness on the value of every human conception.  America might reflect how the Virgin called America to be a witness to life and used us as God's instrument to preserve civilization.  America might reflect that God has seen to the destruction of nations based on their addiction to the murder of the innocent.  America might decide in its public institutions and its international standing to follow all that Sister Lucia suggested and: "reject the path of sin, hatred, revenge, injustice, violations of the rights of the human person, immorality and violence."  With such conversion, there is hope for the future and all humanity.

If we will not reject the path of sin and creating slave beings, we should recall that Our Lady appeared in Fatima as "The Lady of the Rosary".  We launched our response to the attacks of September 11 on October 7 when we rightfully invaded Afghanistan for Al-Qaeda's murderous attack.  October 7 is the "Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary".  What this coincidence will mean for America is still in God's hands.  We only know our freedom will make us responsible and accountable.  The ink was not even dry on press announcements of the recently-discovered ethical means of deriving stem cells before the demonic wails for continuing embryonic research (for "scientific advancement") filled in the air.

"O Mary, conceived without Sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!"

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  • Guest

    This is an excellent article.  During the Masses of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception in our parish young members of the First Communion class were enrolled with a brown scapular to Our Lady of Mount Carmel and each child was given a rosary in preparation for their First Communion next spring.  It’s a way to teach children and parents about prayer and the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

  • Guest

    There are portions of this article which are irresponsible and clearly are poorly thought out.

     

    Mr. Tsakanikas says "we simply do not understand providence while it is happening." But then he goes on to say that the fact that the US declared war on Japan on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception and accepted Japan's surrender on the Feast of the Assumption shows us that the Virgin Mary "revealed she was with America in halting WWII." This is an extravagant and unfounded claim. We have no more basis for saying this is a specific revelation of God than we would in following the author in saying there is some divine significance to the fact that the US capitol sits between the states of Virginia and Maryland.

    We do not have to agree with all, or any, of Anglican Archbishop Rowan Williams's specific political views to agree with him that the "chosen nation myth of America" is a problematic concept. We have inspired scriptures telling us that ancient Israel was God's chosen nation, the last time I checked there was no such support for the idea that the United States is.

    Of course our nation has played a significant role in the last 200 + years of world history. And of course at times, and I would say most clearly during World War II, it's role has served the greater good and most likely helped to shape the world in a way pleasing to God. But there is no basis for saying that our nation's triumphs and defeats are the result of discernible interventions on God's part in the same way that those of ancient Israel were.

    So many of the claims in this article so obviously lack any support or basis in reality. The foolish claims made in this article undermine any attempt to seriously discuss the weighty moral issues raised in published interviews of then Cardinal Ratzinger.

    I would die for my country. I am in the Army's Chaplain Candidate program, and if I do ever have the opportunity to serve as an active duty chaplain my willingness to die might have to stop being just an abstract ideal. God's will for our nation, and our nation's responsibility to fight wars in a manner consistent with his will, our issues that are of extreme importance to me. That is why it upsets me to see them discussed so poorly.

     

    Father Ryan Larson

    St's Peter and Paul Parish

    Naperville, IL

    First Lieutenant, US Army Reserves

  • Guest

    "The worst attack on American soil in 60 years almost brought America to its knees." I would submit that this attack DID bring much of America to its knees – in prayer. Unfortunately, we stood back up and returned to our self-reliant attitude within a few short weeks.

  • Guest

    runnerryan,

    Thank you for your willingness to serve our country.

    I'm sorry you got so upset by this article.  My men's group of both active duty and retired US Army veterans (both Catholic and Protestant) enjoyed it a great deal.  We found it a wonderful vehicle to reflect with gratitude on both how God has blessed this country and protected it in its unique role in human history and how our nation's consecration to the Immaculate Conception has been and continues to be manifested.

    Mr. Tsakanikas' article does not make claims as much as it makes observations. Labeling them as foolish strikes me as more prideful than accepting them with gratitude as evidence of our need to be a shining city on a hill. The money line for me was "…the primary solution is becoming a moral light so bright that the other nations listen to us."

    God works in mysterious ways. Mysterious, at least, for many of us.

    Peace.

  • Guest

    Interesting article but I would have to agree with runnerryan that the claims are extravagant but I wouldn't go as far as using the word coincidental. We entered the war in Europe through the "back door" so-to-speak. The continent needed the US to win WWII but the victory had very mixed results. The nations that perpetrated the war became the beneficieries of US aid in rebuilding their economies while the nations of Central Europe were used as political pawns to bargain a post-war peace that brought Communism into full blossom and sacrificed the nations that never capitulated to Nazi agression. It also put the US on a socialist course that would not have happened otherwise. My hope is with PTR's comments, that the consecration would in some way manifest itself. It's quite possible that this strange coincidence is in some way Mary's hand. A mere mortal observation of mine just doesn't see it.

  • Guest

    I wonder how someone reading the history a few hundred years from now would see it?

  • Guest

    As a Jewish mom would say: Funny dat you menshin it. PTR, read my post in the House of Mary article. Being amazed the way God works is the rule not the exception.

    Thanks for not asking me to expound on my shortsightedness, I wouldn't dare.

  • Guest

    Wonderful article! Here's another interesting Sept. 11th coincidence –and then Monday is feast of our Lady of Loreto!:
    St. Marco of Aviano, Italy (the important US airbase which was used during the Yugoslav conflict) was a cappuchin monk who was famous for many miracles of healing and conversion and of bringing peace to places where there was none. He had been a long time in Vienna at the behest of the Emperor and was present when the Turks laid seige to Vienna in July of 1683. They came nearly 300,000 strong and the Emporer had not enough troops with which to defend the city. Father Marco of Aviano entreated the Polish King, Jan Sobieski, to come to the rescue with his 40,000 soldiers. All told, I believe that the Christian forces did not reach 100,000.
    A few weeks after the tremendous attack, Father Marco was named chaplain of the Christian forces and with his preaching he infused new life and purpose into the soldiers.The immage of the Blessed Virgin was put on every flag, pennant, ensign and banner. The seige had been devastating and there was no other hope but in Mary. On the Kahlemberg mountain which protects Vienna from the north, Father Marco celebrated Mass for the thousands of Christian troops present, and Jan Sobieski, the King of Poland, served humbly as acolyte.
    The battle began on the morning of September 11th. It is recorded that the sun shone splendidly on that September 11th too, and from earliest dawn the bells in all the steeples were ringing out and did so all the day long while all the children and the women were in the churches praying, imploring the help of the Blessed Virgin. And before the sun went down on that day, the Turks had been soundly vanquished and had run away in terror from the battle fields. By night fall, the great standard of Muhamed was in the hands of the triumphant Polish King, Jan Sobieski. On the following day, Jan Sobieski rode into Vienna, dressed in light blue and gold (traditional colours of the Holy Virgin) astride the captured horse of the Grand Visir of Turkey and brandishing the captured standard of Muhamed, he ordered the triumphal parade to head towards the church of the Madonna of Loreto wherein was revered a holy image of the Blessed Virgin and there the whole population prostrated themselves in gratitude to our Lady of Loreto for having liberated Vienna and for having spared Europe.
    Pope Innocent was also convinced that the victory came through intercession of our Lady of Loreto, and in her honor he instituted the Feast of the Holy Name of Mary, which a later Pope (Pius X) fixed on September 12th. This is the battle which broke muslim power over Europe definitively.

    After the great battle in Vienna and in the clean up, there was found a painting of the Madonna of Loreto in the rubble , and on one side of it were written these words: "In hac imagine Mariae victor eris Joannes; In hac imagine Mariae vinces Joannes" ("By this image of Mary you will be the conquerer, oh John; by this image of Mary you will win, John." It was a painting that had been brought to Vienna by St. John (Giovanni) Capistrano who had been in Vienna 200 years earlier fighting the Turks even then. "Jan" of course is the Polish form of John.
    This history of the seige of Vienna comes from the work of Father Arsenio d'Ascoli, head of the Universal Congregation (Vatican), from his book "I papi e la Santa Casa" ("The Popes and the House of the Holy Family at Loreto", Loreto, 1969, pp. 54ss).

  • Guest

    Splendid post Catherine. The Northern Lion as King Sobieski was known was named that for his courage which he derived from his piety. He took his forces down in a Christian crusade. His army was the Hussars, fearless cavalrymen who struck terror in the hearts of the enemy by putting tall wings and streamers on their armor. When they rode in a band the wind roaring through the wings made them sound like a hurricane was coming. His famous quote upon his victory was “Veni, Vidi, Deus Vincit”, a humble variation on the prideful statement by Julius Cesar.

    Less than a hundred years later the Austrians reciprocated by participating in the first partition of Poland. The West has a short memory and an even shorter religious fervor. Ex: 9/11. 

  • Guest

    Dear Goral,

    So let us be the ones to re-light the flame of holy fervor and pray more Rosaries! Grignon de Monfort said that the evil one would be conquered by those who carried the Crucifix in one hand and the Rosary in the other. Padre Pio literally brandished the Rosary, "l'arma" he called it–"the weapon". It is this that gives so much power and might and courage and perseverance to the armed forces and those who lead them. Italy, the place where I live, is not as Catholic as many people think it is. However, while much of the faith erodes away, there are still flourishing pockets where Catholic faith and traditions are still observed and cherished, and one of these are the Italian armed forces. It makes the heart soar when on the respective feast days of their various patron saints or Madonnas, the basilica here fills up with Finanzieri, Alpini, Aviatori, Marinai, Bersaglieri and Carabinieri in dress uniform for "their" Mass (and at the Consacration when the holy Eucharist is elevated, a very explosive shout calls the soldiers to their feet for a sharp salute to our Lord–and for the surprise, everyone in the church jumps to their feet from the kneelers). Each branch of the armed forces has their own special devotion and in fact on Monday it is the turn of the Air Force–the Madonna of Loreto is their Patroness (on account of the House of the Holy Family which flew from Nazareth to Loreto).

    The story of the seige of Vienna has a funny epilogue: the people of Vienna had suffered hunger and so when finally the city was liberated the people went out to search for food. The Turks had run away leaving behind everything, including great stores of coffee beans with which the Viennese were not very familiar apparently. They tried eating them but found them too awful and so they tried feeding them to their equally hungry livestock but they would have none of it either. Someone though knew what to do with it–and then, to make the bitter drink tastier–and I guess too, to fill up many empty stomachs– he thought to add frothy hot milk (and I suppose sugar and cocoa powder and whipped cream eventually). And as the color of this concoction called to mind the color of the habit of the most beloved holy man of Vienna, the 'cappuccino' monk, Father Marco of Aviano, so it was that in his honor, this nourishing new drink was christened "Cappuccino". And records have it that the croissant is not French but Viennese. The croissant was born in post-seige Vienna and represents the half-moon of Islam. Eating the croissant was a tasty way of savoring a-new the victory over the Turks. And so the European breakfast 'par excellence' owes its origins to that very same September 11th, 1683.

  • Guest

    I am thankful to those who welcomed the true spirit of the article…a call to conversion and thankfulness for God’s mercy.  I am sure the priest/chaplain ‘runnerryan’ who was critical of the article will do well with the men he was called to serve and will be a great source of grace. He will be Christ among them as he makes present the virtues of Christ and unites those he serves to the mysteries of Christ (sacraments). He might have come into the article with pre-conceived notions that are not a true part of the article (like what I meant by ‘chosen nation’). The article is obviously open to misunderstanding depending on the notions through which the reader understands it and my own inadequacies. I also can get easily turned-off when things are presented as prophetic. I hope he will forgive the inadequacies.  I don’t disagree with all his complaints…I disagree that his criticisms apply to the actual article as a whole. Knowing my own mind, he clearly did not capture it. He is welcome to blame the article’s construction; hopefully he will understand space constraints.  God bless him and may his calling be abundantly fruitful. Having assisted Navy Chaplains in the deserts of 29 Palms from ’95-98 as a director of religious education I applaud the passion he must feel when faith and politics collide. May such passion lead all those he meets to embrace Christ as they meet Christ in him.

     

    I am not a Positivist (limited to empirical verification as the only source of certainty) and so I make my observations/claims. Calling non-Positivist view points ‘unfounded’ or ‘foolish’ is probably what upset those who read the article within the main and intended themes.  I don’t think the Pope or Catholics are fools for believing the Virgin has helped the world though the 1984 Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary or that she used the U.S. to bring an end to the hot war of 1938 – 1945 and continued to give signs of Fatima’s importance to the world.  (Yes, 1938 and not 1939, when the light predicted at Fatima was seen by Sister Lucia.) I certainly also don’t believe every action of the U.S. is justified just because we were a chosen nation/instrument in WWII.  Quite the contrary.  War itself is a divine chastisement as Abraham Lincoln saw it in his Second Inaugural Address; which also lacks Positivism. J

     

    The real battle to win is the culture wars and this will mean faithful witness to Christ and in imitation of the true Christ who suffered and died before he rose again.  It will be done by speaking the truth in love and accepting persecution; not becoming persecutors. I would be the last person to have meant by ‘chosen nation’ that somehow the USA was the new Israel. Christ and his mystical body is the New Israel.  I just meant we were used in WWII and that God expects more.  America remains very influential, contrary to Rowan Williams.  In fact, Ratzinger’s interview with Seewald explains how what happens in American hospitals influences bioethics and medical ethics for the rest of the world by means of Catholic hospitals. “To whom much has been given, much will be expected.” This article will not be understood without knowing the true perspective of the author and it is always good to ask what someone believes before telling him what he believes or thinking it is a matter of simple deductions.  Humans are more complex than deductions because we are in the image and likeness of God.

     

    The true inspiration of the article comes from Michael Brown’s Spiritdaily.com.  There was a prophecy given there upon which he based his book Tower of Light. I agree with Brown’s discernment that the ‘anonymous’ 1990 prophecy from  his site has been unfolding and that human embryonic experimentation/murder was a test permitted by God and our poor response will continue to determine chastisements through nature and other secondary free instruments (including the evil of terrorists which must never be justified).  I think Ratzinger, like Abraham Lincoln, may have been warning of something similar in God and the World concerning chastisements and the production of ‘slave beings’ (though I do not claim to speak for the present Pope). If this is the real turn-off for some people and if I am wrong, then I am rightly labeled foolish.  I also believe it is within our freedom to work with God to build a better future as the Vatican’s Fatima release mentioned.  Just because evil will flourish doesn’t mean good men can remain silent or should only use Positivist statements in public debate.  Removing faith from public debate does not add weight to moral arguments; nor should debate be limited to sophisticated ‘experts’. Lincoln had it right by interpreting history from God’s perspective in the Second Inaugural Address…Good reading for anyone involved in war.

  • Guest

    I basically agree with this article, and am disturbed by the "attitude" of the Catholic Priest/Chaplain from Illinois – I question whether or not I would be willing to serve with him (10 year Navy vet).  I will pray and do penance that your spiritual eyes be opened.  As Pope JPII once said, "there are no coincidences in the life of grace."

  • Guest

    Matthew,

    While I appreciate your effort and zeal, the idea that God and His Mother were somehow blessing [or condoning] US involvement in WWII is more a product of patriotic fervor than actual fact. A quick trip down memory lane will suffice to prove that US involvement was at best imprudent and at worst immoral.

    In 1939, Hitler and Stalin decide to shock the world by agreeing to invade and divide Poland amongst themselves. England along with France declared war on Germany, but not Russia. Meanwhile in Washington, the US, annoyed by Japanese territorial gains in Asia [principally China] begin to goad the Japanese into attacking. As the war in Europe escalates our good friends the British ally themselves with the devil himself Stalin whom you‘ll remember invaded Poland. The Japanese attack finally comes in 1941. The US allies itself with England and Stalin [aka: El Diablo]–52 million+ deaths later the war ends. So what did we accomplish? The invasion of Poland, which sparked the allies into action, was firmly under Stalin‘s totalitarian domination. In fact all of Eastern Europe –mostly Catholic– was given to Stalin by the US and England to be ruled by the godless armies of communism for almost 5 decades. The US and its allies also found out that there was something far worse than Japanese control of China, his name was Mao. Of course lest we forget the forcible deportation of up to 2 million anti-communist Catholic and Orthodox Christians into the hands of their killers and we have the ambiguous victory that you still celebrate.

    Matthew, the idea that WW II was somehow divinely ordained is preposterous and naïve. Our government allied itself with a known devil and the Catholic Church paid the price. The next time you want to write about world history, you may want take some time to research what actually took place.

    God Bless,

    Francis

     

  • Guest

    Francis,

    I never thought the War was divinely ordained, just the opposite.  The Virgin wanted to prevent it when she appeared at Fatima.  War is always a tragedy and God is always cleaning-up mankind's mess, i.e. the Incarnation. The freedom of men caused the war, not God.  Again, I think we have a lot to learn from Abraham Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address. That should be a part of the article's context per my post as "theophilos". Please give Lincoln a quick glance if it has been a while. That response actually followed the post beneath it.  No, I am not disappointed that we defeated Hitler and the Emperor. No, I don't confuse America with Christianity, but I am sure someone could conjure such an interpretation if they desired. No, I am not celebrating the starvation of Ukranians with whom I frequently attend Divine Liturgy. No, I am not ignorant of what happened after the war. Look, I can't control what people want to read into this article.  You didn't like it…I get it. I still believe heaven showed concern and interest at Fatima for WWII and this concern was not lost.  I like Pat Buchanan too and appreciate his views on WWII and American involvement (which your complaints remind me of).  It would be wrong to read the article as ultra-patriotic and/or dismissive of Buchanan.  It is actually warning of further loss of God's favor if we continue to act Godless.

    Matthew

  • Guest

    Catherine, in your list of worshippers I didn't see the Paparazzi. I found your comments to be both seriously and light-heartedly interesting. I like it when there's a comment from another part of the Catholic world. I was disappointed that what once was the bosom of Catholicism is no longer that.

    In any case next time I have a cappuccino I will have it in honor of the victory of 1683. To that I will add the croissant, which I never have just to sweeten the victory.

  • Guest

    Dear Goral

    You're right, I left out paparazzi. Well, since the election of Ratzinger, the word paparazzi has never been the same. You know, papa is the word for pope and razzi became immediately 'Ratzi'. So…Papa Ratzi is definitely in church among the faithful! And I would even add, as head of the other branch of the armed forces! Stalin even once wisecracked about the Pope's "army" (I guess he meant all those children and women armed with Rosaries)…but look who's walls came tumbling down!!

  • Guest

    Forgive me for being skeptical, but as a Southerner, I find it hard to swallow the idea that the United States is a chosen nation. The Founding Fathers were slave holders and Freemasons; slavery was written into the Constitution. The new nation owed its liberty to the aid of the Catholic nations France and Spain in its war of independence and to the aid of Our Lady of Prompt Succor in the Battle of New Orleans in 1814. But this liberty was used to crush native American tribes, defeat Mexico and annihilate the Confederate States of America in offensive wars that followed; not to mention a treacherous war against Spain in the last part of the 19th century. United States power was then used to disassemble the Austro-Hungarian Empire following World War I despite the pleas for peace from Blessed Charles of Austria and Pope Benedict XV. God does use “bad” people to chastise “good” people; let’s not be confused about who’s who. Everyone is fallen in the sight of God.

  • Guest

    I have met my match in the delicate art of word games. Indeed it was the Pope's divisions, quite literally that brought down the Godless empire. The opposing Brute never got support from the likes of Ratzinger either, who presided over his young forces in Cologne recently. The Vanquished have become the Victors yet again. That's why even though this article is a stretch, I withhold major disagreement because the Gentle Lady commands iron force. Which of us can yet see it except we look back at it through history.

     

  • Guest

    Our God is a God of surprises.

    Who wouldn't find it had to swallow:

    • that by his jealous brothers selling him into slavery, Joseph would be in the position to save the trivbees of Israel?
    • that a gentile woman's refusal to return to her people and remain a servant in Israel would become the bloodline of Jesus.
    • that an egotistical Roman emperor's desire to raise taxes would enable the fulfillment of the prophecy for the Messiah to be born in Bethlehem.
    • that twelve hayseed Galileans, mostly fishermen, including a tax collector for the Romans, would change the world.

    and so on.

    Reminds me of that line, "Oh happy fault, which has gained for us so wonderful a Savior!"

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