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No Holy Water, Shaking hands banned (for the duration)

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1:03 pm
May 4, 2009


Andy Licious

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I was shocked when I went to mass Sunday to find no holy water, shaking hands was banned as was communion on the lips.

All because of the swine flu epidemic.

I was always taught to believe that holy water was holy. Why would it suddenly become a point of contagion for the swine flu?

We attend the Latin mass (traditional mass), so communion on the tongue was optional, but I did not see anyone receiving it in the hand at that mass.

I believe our parish/diocese has become too politically correct. Surprised

8:22 pm
May 4, 2009


Warren Jewell

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Among other faults, we seem to be in an age of panic and stampede.

As well, bishops and pastors cannot be certain that if some parishioner picks up a disease – no matter how or where – the parish and diocese won't be hauled into court for their relatively deep pockets of insurance funds.

We live in sad times commensurate with the idiocy of 'political correctness'.

9:40 pm
May 4, 2009


Tarheel

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posts 84

It is sad. But in the few years since I have been a Catholic I have never heard of any one getting sick form the holy water or communion.

It must be a legal thing.

Didn't someone say once there are too many lawyers?

6:15 am
May 5, 2009


Warren Jewell

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posts 203

And – interesting – the rise in numbers of lawyers -
in the USA, now at a point of ten times the number of lawyers per thousand citizens than anywhere else in the world -
and the decline of real parishioners
seem to have occured over the same time frame – these past forty years.

1:34 pm
June 14, 2009


Stanley90

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This is the most ridiculous piece of political correctness – one is just as likely to catch any kind of virus from just sitting in church during a mass, as walking out of the Mass, as with walking home !!!
Where has our faith and trust in God care and protection. Can holy water or the sharing of a handshake be something 'evil'?

7:31 am
June 23, 2009


Michael

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posts 372

Pretty sure that "holy" does not mean antiseptic or sterile.

I'm not sure what the "political correctness" is in this case. It seems an overreaction, to be sure on the part of the parish, but still well within the prudential judgment of the priest or local ordinary to try to minimize the spread of a potential contagion. H1N1 seems to be the subject of a lot of hype in the media right now in the U.S. but not so ino other parts of the world,where the "hype" is needed because outbreaks are more severe. The USCCB has instructions here for the faithful.

The best advice is for those showing symptoms of H1N1 to stay home.

In Christ,
Michael

"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried."
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6:40 pm
October 5, 2009


Michael

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A year-and-a-half later…is anyone seeing signs of a resurgence of the practice?

"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been difficult and left untried."

"The poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of Cheese."

– GK Chesterton

3:12 pm
November 25, 2009


fishman

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posts 103

I considered carfully my thought on this.
I would submit for your judgment and consideration two propositions.
1) to shrink from embracing a lepor full of running sores out of charity for he/she is a lack of faith in the creator of charity.
2) it is best for those who are strong in faith to help the weaker by obstaining from anything that might cause them to sin.

My application is thus:
if the cup or the water are there I will not hesitate from them, and if asked I oppose thier withdrawl on the principle that they build community.

if others are made uncomfortable and feel excluded because there lack of faith makes it impossible for them to partake of the water or shake hands , I leave it up to the pastor to decide if thier number are sufficent to ask all to obstain from these things 'for the duration'.

As to this flew itself. If it is truely a pandemic everyone will eventully get it and those who God wills will die form it and there is no such thing as a containment of it, only slowing it down.


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