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		<title>By: Johan Mathiesen</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/atheists-dont-own-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-66751</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Mathiesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one says the Christians invented slavery; they were simply happy with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one says the Christians invented slavery; they were simply happy with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Mathiesen</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/atheists-dont-own-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-66750</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Mathiesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 03:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beg pardon but Craig was not logical. His premise—that, if there is a god, there is an objective standard for morality—was never proved. He never even attempted to prove it but left it as an assumption. There is no logical necessity that, if there is a god that A) it has a standard for morality; B) that it cares whether or not people adopt any standard of morality; or C) that there is any mechanism for god&#039;s will, if it has one, to be known. Craig blithely assumed all that to be true and sailed blindly on; but logical it was not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beg pardon but Craig was not logical. His premise—that, if there is a god, there is an objective standard for morality—was never proved. He never even attempted to prove it but left it as an assumption. There is no logical necessity that, if there is a god that A) it has a standard for morality; B) that it cares whether or not people adopt any standard of morality; or C) that there is any mechanism for god&#8217;s will, if it has one, to be known. Craig blithely assumed all that to be true and sailed blindly on; but logical it was not.</p>
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		<title>By: Pants</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/atheists-dont-own-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-61084</link>
		<dc:creator>Pants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[any atheist (I am one) trying to claim that christianty is solely responsible for slavery needs to be reminded about the many civilizations that predate christ or even the old testament by thousands of years, like the Babylonians or the Sumerians and the many societies that have followed that are also happy to accommodate slavery. 
A more rational argument is that christianty is simply complicit in slavery and was reluctant to make any real changes, much like many other large and powerfull entities that influence or control a society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any atheist (I am one) trying to claim that christianty is solely responsible for slavery needs to be reminded about the many civilizations that predate christ or even the old testament by thousands of years, like the Babylonians or the Sumerians and the many societies that have followed that are also happy to accommodate slavery. <br />
A more rational argument is that christianty is simply complicit in slavery and was reluctant to make any real changes, much like many other large and powerfull entities that influence or control a society.</p>
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		<title>By: Pants</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/atheists-dont-own-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-61083</link>
		<dc:creator>Pants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[christianity makes slavery disappear? bollocks
colossians 3:22exo 21:1-11
exo 21:20-21
num 31:17-18
duet 20:14
lev 25:44-46
judges 5:30
judges 21:10-12
judges 21:21
1 peter 3:5-6
ephe 6:5
1 tim 6:1-2
luke 12:47-48

cmon this is like a mini platter of the kind of sick stuff that christianty has offered over it&#039;s time in power, Christ was indiferrent to slaves so were most people in that time.
religion has no impact either way on slavery, it&#039;s the society that the religion is nestled in that chooses its own path, the religion usually just models itself on what is acceptable at that point in time that it was founded (and often stubbornly tries to keep things that way too, often to it&#039;s detriment) if there are changes it&#039;s usually in spite of the faiths modus operandi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>christianity makes slavery disappear? bollocks<br />
colossians 3:22exo 21:1-11<br />
exo 21:20-21<br />
num 31:17-18<br />
duet 20:14<br />
lev 25:44-46<br />
judges 5:30<br />
judges 21:10-12<br />
judges 21:21<br />
1 peter 3:5-6<br />
ephe 6:5<br />
1 tim 6:1-2<br />
luke 12:47-48</p>
<p>cmon this is like a mini platter of the kind of sick stuff that christianty has offered over it&#8217;s time in power, Christ was indiferrent to slaves so were most people in that time.<br />
religion has no impact either way on slavery, it&#8217;s the society that the religion is nestled in that chooses its own path, the religion usually just models itself on what is acceptable at that point in time that it was founded (and often stubbornly tries to keep things that way too, often to it&#8217;s detriment) if there are changes it&#8217;s usually in spite of the faiths modus operandi</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/atheists-dont-own-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-59719</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, I love Mark Twain, but this really is just a very well-crafted but ultimately illogical rant. He speaks of slavery in Christian lands (which no one denies, of course) but then he refers to slavery&#039;s abolition being a mysterious result of some vague process of &quot;hearts going soft.&quot; The reality is that it is the teachings of Christianity, and the grace of Christ, that led to the abolition of slavery. It was, and is, simply untenable for a person to call himself a Christian and also treat another human being as a mere possession. Christianity offers that &quot;way out&quot; of slavery--teaching always that every person is made in the image and likeness of God. Even if Christians forget it, they can&#039;t escape it unless they discard Christianity completely. When and where people truly follow the teachings of Christianity, slavery disappears. Can the same be said of those places where atheism and radical secularism are followed? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I love Mark Twain, but this really is just a very well-crafted but ultimately illogical rant. He speaks of slavery in Christian lands (which no one denies, of course) but then he refers to slavery&#8217;s abolition being a mysterious result of some vague process of &#8220;hearts going soft.&#8221; The reality is that it is the teachings of Christianity, and the grace of Christ, that led to the abolition of slavery. It was, and is, simply untenable for a person to call himself a Christian and also treat another human being as a mere possession. Christianity offers that &#8220;way out&#8221; of slavery&#8211;teaching always that every person is made in the image and likeness of God. Even if Christians forget it, they can&#8217;t escape it unless they discard Christianity completely. When and where people truly follow the teachings of Christianity, slavery disappears. Can the same be said of those places where atheism and radical secularism are followed? </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/atheists-dont-own-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-59718</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Christian love affair with slavery has been best summed up by Mark Twain here,
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/twain01.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian love affair with slavery has been best summed up by Mark Twain here,<br />
<a href="http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/twain01.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/twain01.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Living in a country that was and to a great degree is closed to atheist ideas, I liked so much the books by Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dennet and B.RUssel. They changed my views radically, gave me realisation of just how crazy and stupid was to believe what I believed before that. They make so much change. It is interesting to hear the arguments of the religious after you read the above authors. Everything that seemed rather reasonable (although suspicious) earlier, no makes so little sense. The interesting thing that 99 per cent of the ideas, doubts, questions raised by those authors just mirror my own ideas and doubts that I already had before, but was unable or afraid to formulate...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in a country that was and to a great degree is closed to atheist ideas, I liked so much the books by Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dennet and B.RUssel. They changed my views radically, gave me realisation of just how crazy and stupid was to believe what I believed before that. They make so much change. It is interesting to hear the arguments of the religious after you read the above authors. Everything that seemed rather reasonable (although suspicious) earlier, no makes so little sense. The interesting thing that 99 per cent of the ideas, doubts, questions raised by those authors just mirror my own ideas and doubts that I already had before, but was unable or afraid to formulate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt B</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/atheists-dont-own-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-59691</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s why Jesus counselled &quot;don&#039;t throw your pearls before swine.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why Jesus counselled &#8220;don&#8217;t throw your pearls before swine.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pnyikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>pnyikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atheists blaming slavery on Christianity would do well to remember that the most inhuman and massive slavery in the twentieth century was in the slave labor camps of the Gulag Archipelago. We may never know how many political prisoners died of starvation while being forced to work inhuman hours.  All this  was under a regime that aggressively promoted atheism and persecuted Christians.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atheists blaming slavery on Christianity would do well to remember that the most inhuman and massive slavery in the twentieth century was in the slave labor camps of the Gulag Archipelago. We may never know how many political prisoners died of starvation while being forced to work inhuman hours.  All this  was under a regime that aggressively promoted atheism and persecuted Christians.</p>
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