An Abortionist’s Nightmare

Dr. McArthur Hill used to kill babies for a living. Now he has repented. At a conference of former abortionists, he shared the nightmares he had:

"In my nightmares I would deliver a healthy newborn baby and I would take that healthy newborn baby and I would hold it up, and I would face a jury of faceless people and ask them to tell me what to do with this baby. They would go thumbs-up or thumbs-down and if they made a thumbs-down indication then I was to drop the baby into a bucket of water which was present. I never did reach the point of dropping the baby into the bucket because I'd always wake up at that point. But it was clear to me then that there was something going on in my mind, subconsciously."

I have helped abortionists make the transition from killing babies to repentance, and can attest that Dr. Hill's experience is not uncommon. In fact, his nightmare reveals some common aspects of the suffering of abortionists.

Notice, first of all, that Dr. Hill has in his hands a "healthy newborn baby." Abortions are done on healthy unborn babies, but in this nightmare, the doctor's conscience is reminding him that a baby is a baby, and that the lies of abortion propagandists who try to make the public think that abortion is only done for "health reasons" are exactly that — lies.

More significant still is the fact that the abortionist is holding the baby up in front of a group of people. What happened to the "private, personal" nature of abortion? Abortionists know better. It's a public industry, a public battle, and like it or not, the world has its eyes on them. They are committing that wrong which humanity itself, in the judgment of history, knows to be the same wrong that constitutes genocide and holocausts. Yes, this "private" act is really as public as can be.

 The abortion propagandists try to paint this issue as "a woman's choice and hers alone." But the abortionist's nightmare tells us a different story. The mother is absent. It is society, represented by a jury of his peers, that is making the choice. This represents both the abortionist's resentment as well as his attempt to evade responsibility. "It's not that I favor killing babies," many abortionists will say. "It's that either I provide this service or someone else will do so, in a less professional way. Society has made this choice available, which is a good thing, but somebody has to carry it out."

Finally, the jury is "faceless." Of course it is. Nobody wants to claim responsibility for legal abortion. Legislators blame the courts; judges blame precedent; others blame the "law of the land."

It's time for the abortionists nightmare to wake us all up! Now is the time for us to put our own face on this issue, and claim responsibility to break through the faceless crowd and declare, "The killing stops here! I will no longer be silent!"

Fr. Frank Pavone

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Father Frank A. Pavone is an American Roman Catholic priest and pro-life activist. He is the National Director of Priests for Life and serves as the Chairman and Pastoral Director of Rachel's Vineyard.

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  • Guest

    Last week, I needed a second D&C for a miscarriage.  My doctor was very baffled that the first one didn't work (I personally believe it's because my body fought to hold onto my babies), and he wanted to refer me to a local doctor who is very experienced at evacuating uteruses.  Well, having worked in the area as an obgyn nurse, I know that this doctor's experience comes from the fact that he does numerous abortions, including late term abortions.  I told my doctor that I would bleed to death or have a hysterectomy before I would let that abortionist come anywhere near me.  It was bad enough that I had to be civil to him when we were colleagues.  I pray that more doctors will experience the type of conversion that Father Pavone describes.

  • Guest

    Claire, I am so sorry to hear about your loss.  You and your babies are in my prayers.  Way to go for sticking to your convictions at such a tough time! 

  • Guest

    Thank you, Patty.  When tragedies like this occur, it really helps me to try to find some purpose behind it.  I think that the opportunity to give a pro-life witness was one of many good things that came out of this (not that I'm glad it happened, but it's important to recognize the graces that are there).

  • Guest

    Claire

    You have always impressed me, and I am even more impressed with what you said to your doctor. At that point, did your personal physician perform the D&C, or did he refer you to a more acceptable specialist?

    On another note, Fr. Pavone has done a marvelous job bringing out the symbolism in this dream, especially regarding society's role in abortion. Over and over we hear that a woman felt she had "no other choice" than to have an abortion. That is no choice at all. What has our society done to women in this country?

    Guitarmom

  • Guest

    Claire! Ah, my friend, I am so sorry for your loss! I weep with you. Please know my prayers are with you.

     

    Nauert, an infamous abortionist in our area who "founded" a chain of mills, recently committed suicide. It was all very hush-hush and didn't make the papers, but it was a grisly scene apparently. When I was younger, my father (a local physician) told me that an abortionist acquaintance he knew had taken his boat out into the middle of the ocean and shot himself; this man had aborted several of his own children. I pray that these people find repentance and healing before they, like Judas, despair and end their nightmares with an eternal one.

     

    Once, after my son was born, I was sidewalk counseling at one of Nauert's mills. DeHahn, an elderly abortionist, pulled up in his red sports car, and walked up to me. "What a beautiful baby!" he cooed sinisterly, and then he reached for my son. "Can I hold him?" he asked. Yes, the abortionist asked to hold my baby! Part of me thought, "Well, maybe it will change his heart," but my motherly instincts responded before I could even weigh the possibility, "ABSOLUTELY NOT!"

  • Guest

    Candeo, thank you for your prayers.

     

    Guitarmom, when I refused to go to the doctor that he recommended, my ob gave me the choice between having a cytotec inserted and laboring at home, or having him do the second D&C himself.  I opted for another D&C;  I didn't want to labor at home, because the previous night I had had labor pains so bad that I could barely walk.  The second D&C appears to have been successul;  he did an ultrasound right afterwards on the OR table to make sure that he had gotten everything. I have barely had any bleeding since, and that was 5 days ago.  Plus, I can tell that my uterus has decreased in size. 

  • Guest

    What is it about not wanting to be pregnant you don't understand? Given that gestating to term is eleven times more dangerous than a safe and legal abortion, why should any woman not be able to decide when, where, how and if she gestates a pregnancy?

    Further, the USA is 38th in maternal mortality worldwide. Thirteen out of every 100 pregnancies result in death in America. It's bad odds when you already have two or three small children depending on you.

  • Guest

    Yes, women don't want to be pregnant.  I understand that.  I also understand women don't want to care for their teenagers, that doesn't mean they can kill them.  They also don't want to be married, that doesn't mean they can kill their husbands.  Just because a woman doesn't want to be pregnant should not mean she can kill her unborn baby.

    If thirteen out of 100 pregnancies resulted in the death of the mother, that would mean one out of eight people had their mother die when they were being born.  In the United States of America in the year 2000 one out of 6,000 woman died from being pregnant, that is .017%, not 13%.

    Abortion is much more dangerous than is being reported by pro-choice advocates.  First of all, they have succeeded in making it so that deaths that are abortion related are not reported as being abortion related.  Secondly, having an abortion increases the risk that a woman will die in future pregnancies.  So you might have a woman dying who is giving birth as the result of a previous abortion.  Thirdly, the suicide rate for woman who have abortions is dramatically higher than the rate for women who carry a baby to term.

    Even if you were correct when you say that thirteen out of 100 pregnancies result in death in America, it doesn't compare with the 100 of 100 pregnancies that result in death in an abortion- the baby always dies.

    I pray your heart will be softened.

  • Guest

    God loves you .

    CTT – finding you again, my dear -

    Please, of “the USA is 38th in maternal mortality worldwide” – the citation from a trustworthy source, please?

    The sources I encounter, such as the National Institutes for Health, cite ‘resource-poor settings’ as the main cause of maternal death. Indeed, such a population mass as India, with its relative primitive medicine outside urban areas, accounts for nearly a quarter of all maternal deaths world-wide.

    Our nation hardly qualifies as ‘resource-poor’ for any medical condition; ask Canadians. And, indeed, our greatest portion of our population which suffer maternal death are among ‘black women over 35 years old’ – the very population, large ‘credit’ to PPA, most likely to have had prior abortions.

    Abortion can be said, then, to be in a direct sense an issue of resource poverty. That resource initially is sociological – lack of reliable family and community support for black mothers-to-be. Abortion follows; (helping Marge Sanger in memoriam to be rid of one more miserable pickaninny). Then, when the would-be mother is now ‘over 35′, this is coupled with physicians unable with available resources to stem the resulting damage to the mother from prior abortions manifesting themselves at these later births.

    And, my dear Cherry, you really need prayers. I continue, even as you, of me, should . . .

    Remember, I love you, too

    Reminding that we are all on the same side – His,

    Pristinus Sapienter

    (wljewell @catholicexchange.com or … yahoo.com)

  • Guest

    Yes, women don't want to be pregnant.  I understand that. 

     No, you don't. If you did you would be ProLegalAbortion.

     I also understand women don't want to care for their teenagers, that doesn't mean they can kill them.  They also don't want to be married, that doesn't mean they can kill their husbands.  Just because a woman doesn't want to be pregnant should not mean she can kill her unborn baby.

    Killing babies is illegal.

    If thirteen out of 100 pregnancies resulted in the death of the mother, that would mean one out of eight people had their mother die when they were being born.  In the United States of America in the year 2000 one out of 6,000 woman died from being pregnant, that is .017%, not 13%.

    It's just been in the news. Maternal mortality is increasing in the USA. The figure is now 13 out of every 100 women.

    Abortion is much more dangerous than is being reported by pro-choice advocates.  First of all, they have succeeded in making it so that deaths that are abortion related are not reported as being abortion related. 

     Nonsense. I think you had better access the CDC and get some real information. Stop lying for Jesus. Trust me, God won't appreciate it.

     Secondly, having an abortion increases the risk that a woman will die in future pregnancies.  So you might have a woman dying who is giving birth as the result of a previous abortion.  Thirdly, the suicide rate for woman who have abortions is dramatically higher than the rate for women who carry a baby to term.

    Nonsense. AntiLegalAbortion folks would do better if they respected women and the truth. Please provide an unbiased source for this information. I'll wait.

    Even if you were correct when you say that thirteen out of 100 pregnancies result in death in America, it doesn't compare with the 100 of 100 pregnancies that result in death in an abortion- the baby always dies.

    What baby? Babies are born. They can't fit through a 1/2 inch cannula. You disrespect women when you leave them out of the equation. How many peaches will you get if you destroy the tree?

    I pray your heart will be softened.

    Don't pray for me. God might think I would hang out with you.

     

  • Guest

    CTT – finding you again, my dear -

    I am not your Dear.

    Please, of "the USA is 38th in maternal mortality worldwide" – the citation from a trustworthy source, please?

    What do you consider a trustworthy source?

    The sources I encounter, such as the National Institutes for Health, cite 'resource-poor settings' as the main cause of maternal death. Indeed, such a population mass as India, with its relative primitive medicine outside urban areas, accounts for nearly a quarter of all maternal deaths world-wide.

    America is a white patriarchal society and if you are a woman, a child, or a minority, you are #$%^&%.

    Our nation hardly qualifies as 'resource-poor' for any medical condition; ask Canadians. And, indeed, our greatest portion of our population which suffer maternal death are among 'black women over 35 years old' – the very population, large 'credit' to PPA, most likely to have had prior abortions.

    Planned Parenthood provides low cost contraception to poor women in America. They have prevented more abortions than the lunatic fringe ever has or will.

    Abortion can be said, then, to be in a direct sense an issue of resource poverty. That resource initially is sociological – lack of reliable family and community support for black mothers-to-be. Abortion follows; (helping Marge Sanger in memoriam to be rid of one more miserable pickaninny). Then, when the would-be mother is now 'over 35', this is coupled with physicians unable with available resources to stem the resulting damage to the mother from prior abortions manifesting themselves at these later births.

    I repeat: What is it about not wanting to be pregnant you don't understand?

    And, my dear Cherry, you really need prayers. I continue, even as you, of me, should . . .

    This is the Religionistas way of saying: $%^& You. Your morality is not my imperative.

    Remember, I love you, too

    Reminding that we are all on the same side – His,

    Pristinus Sapienter

    God loves me absolutely. I need do nothing to earn God's love, not even be good. Everybody goes to Heaven. I can do without what you call love.

    I spent 15 years in Christian ministry. Stop pretending that reproductive justic has not been the work of clergy for years.

  • Guest

    If the woman in question does not want to be pregnant, then why is she engaging in the one action God (or "The Goddess" if you will) designed to get her that way? ("sex") 

    I understand that some women–too many–are victims of physical and sexual abuse, but certainly not the majority of them.

    Kathryn

  • Guest

    God loves you .

    CTT – 13% morality is an absurdity – we’d have hearses in hospital parking lots in lines. Wherever you got your news – cite it or shut-up! Okay?

    Where in my words have I put women or children beneath me, per se, ‘man’ over them?

    Your ’15 years in Christian ministry’ frankly have been wasted if you can abide killing anyone because it is ‘legal’. For, you see, God’s morality is your imperative as it is mine. ‘You shall not kill’ minces no words.

    And, I continue in prayers . . .

    Remember, I love you, too

    Reminding that we are all on the same side – His,

    Pristinus Sapienter

    (wljewell @catholicexchange.com or … yahoo.com)

  • Guest

    “God loves me absolutely. I need do nothing to earn God’s love, not even be good. Everybody goes to Heaven. I can do without what you call love.”

    CTT–I understand how you believe what you believe based on this theological statement, however, I strongly disagree with you. How can we even begin to have a discussion on abortion when our theologies are irreconcilable?

  • Guest

    Cheryl, your statistic is entirely incorrect.  I worked for 10 years at a woman's hospital that did 1500 deliveries/year.  In the entire time I worked there, we lost less than 5 women.  There was nothing special about the hospital I worked at that would give it drastically different stats than the general American population.  You claim that you care about women's lives;  what about the female babies who are killed during abortion at a much higher rate than that ridiculous 13/100 statistic you quote?  You are a sick woman.  

  • Guest

    I'm not convinced CherryTheTart is a woman.

    Anyone with elementary school math realizes 13% of pregnancies in the USA do not result in death.  According to the US Census Bureau, for each of the past ten years in the USA there have been at or just under 4 million live births. And, since there are roughly 1 million abortions in the USA per year, there are obviously more pregnancies than live births. 

    Now, 13% of 4 million is 520,000. We are challenged to believe 520,000 women are dying each and every year in the USA from being pregnant, yet somehow we haven't noticed. By comparison, the US losses in Iraq, which seem to have made the news, have been less than 1,000 per year.

    If you would believe CherryTheTart's 13%, then you will believe – well, just read Cherry's comments.

    Obviously pro-abortion, Cherry is baiting the forum.

    I say avoid the bait and wait for a serious discussion point.

  • Guest

    If you keep making such good points regarding abortion, soon you'll probably be getting attacked about the Inquisition, along with statistics of the millions of people the church put to death because, of course, "everyone knows" it's all true! 

    Claire is right about Cherry's sickness: it's a spiritual sickness.  The first symptom is blindness, especially in moral issues. 

    I'll venture a guess that is likely true.  Cheryl's passionate responses stem from a very close experience with herself or a loved one and abortion.  It is very important when you haven't come to terms with what you've done or involved yourself with, to hide behind the defenses she's put up.  Abortion is an ugly, bloody business and what would you expect from someone who needs, for some reason we don't know, to defend it?

    I do like her version of Christianity; do what I want, and straight to heaven… sign me up!  Unfortunately, I don't buy into do-it-yourself religion.  I've had the blessing of bringing several babies to term, and all I can say is, whoever designed this process has  my awe, respect, and obedience.  I can only learn from such a creator….

     

  • Guest

    According to the CDC report on maternal mortality for 2003 (see http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/06facts/preliminarydeaths04.htm)

    the maternal rate for women in the US was 12.1 per 100,000.

    Truth does not matter to the advocates of abortion. When confronted with an inconvenient truth they simply dodge the bullet and go on to presenting another lie to defend their desire to support their selfish lifestyle at the expense of innocent life. Just watch how CTT will either attempt to dodge this CDC report, stop posting, or move on to another absurd support for baby murder.

  • Guest

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  • Guest

    The name CTT suggests a lack of respect or dignity. The grossly distorted use of satistics indicates some form of psychosis. The string of punctuation marks points toward a demon of vulgarity. This is a PPA plant. kc probably found the cause. The defiled womb is a gateway to hell. The defilement in this case has reached the soul.

    Prayer? -by all means. Rational discussion?- pointless.

  • Guest

    America is a white patriarchal society and if you are a woman, a child, or a minority, you are #$%^&%

     

    I found this to be an interesting comment.  It sounds to me like there is a lot of anger behind it as well.

    Since I am a white patriarch, I guess I am not personally qualified to comment on this, although I don't generally here such concerns from others who are not.

  • Guest

     

    Not long ago I found a pro-life website with the testimonies of ex-abortionists.

    All of their stories were very moving and powerful.

    One story struck me and has stayed with me.

    The former abortionist, a woman, said that she was suffering from deep depression and thoughts of suicide and during this time she began to read the book, "The Power of Postive Thinking". 

    One of the steps in the book was that each day a person says this prayer.  Ten times.  She said she recited it thousands each day.

    "I can do all things in Jesus Christ through His strength."

     

    HOW AWESOME!  She was freed and found peace after a time.

    And her testimony made me realize just how incredible the love and mercy of Christ truly is!  He changed her heart and healed her.

    What an inspiration and I admire her courage to face her past and to seek God's forgiveness.  Can I do any less? 

    It makes my problems and fears seem trivial in retrospect.

     

    So, now each day I say that prayer and all of my fears, my anxieties that were crippling me, all of my need to control, it is gone!

    Jesus can do anything.  We must only say yes and open our hearts to His great love and mercy.  And we must forgive ourselves.  Because He loves us unconditionally.

     

    God Bless!

    Marie

  • Guest

    CherryTheTart, may I, with respect, please ask you a few questions?  (1) How many abortions have you had?  (2) When did you have them?  I hope that you will respond to these questions. Thank you.  

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