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		<title>By: “And with Your Spirit” Revisited&#160;&#124;&#160;Catholic Exchange</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2010/05/22/130549/comment-page-1/#comment-48292</link>
		<dc:creator>“And with Your Spirit” Revisited&#160;&#124;&#160;Catholic Exchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 05:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I last wrote in this space about the exchange, The Lord be with you / And with your spirit, it occurred to me that it may be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Creed: A Personal Statement of Faith&#160;&#124;&#160;Catholic Exchange</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Creed: A Personal Statement of Faith&#160;&#124;&#160;Catholic Exchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 05:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reflection that I offered last week in this space on the forthcoming English translation of the Roman Missal was met with an enthusiastic response. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Louie Verrecchio</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2010/05/22/130549/comment-page-1/#comment-47501</link>
		<dc:creator>Louie Verrecchio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 21:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again for your comments all. The booklet is now available at HarvestingTheFruit.com. Sorry for the delay.

Later today or tomorrow I will also post an electronic version (PDF) that can be accessed at no cost. I am hoping this helps us to reach as many people as possible so that God willing it might help open the way for a deeper form of participation in Holy Mass just as the Council Fathers intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again for your comments all. The booklet is now available at HarvestingTheFruit.com. Sorry for the delay.</p>
<p>Later today or tomorrow I will also post an electronic version (PDF) that can be accessed at no cost. I am hoping this helps us to reach as many people as possible so that God willing it might help open the way for a deeper form of participation in Holy Mass just as the Council Fathers intended.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ancell Review &#187; Blog Archive &#187; And With Your Spirit . . . And Liturgical Instruction</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ancell Review &#187; Blog Archive &#187; And With Your Spirit . . . And Liturgical Instruction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 14:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it will be a bit awkward to use and even more difficult to explain.  Louie Verrecchio wrote an excellent article on Catholic Exchange to explain the new wording.  This is the same man who has done some work in creating a study [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it will be a bit awkward to use and even more difficult to explain.  Louie Verrecchio wrote an excellent article on Catholic Exchange to explain the new wording.  This is the same man who has done some work in creating a study [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe DeVet</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2010/05/22/130549/comment-page-1/#comment-47490</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe DeVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 11:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notwithstanding goral, above (LOL), I grew up with &quot;And with your spirit.&quot;  

The whole question of restoring the way of expressing the introductory rites begs the question, why was the original dropped?  I do believe it was because there has been a jihad against certain truths of the faith, based perhaps on some popular modern theological ideas, to rid us of the notion of the human soul by simply dropping any reference to it.  (In case anyone wonders about the status of soul in our teachings, I commend the passage from &quot;Deus Caritas Est&quot; which says, &quot;It is the whole person, body and soul, who loves.&quot;)

There are other truths of the faith under similar &quot;stealth attack&quot; in the changing of wording in both liturgy and hymns.  Even sin and redemption have been denied this way.  (Must be important to deny heaven, because it happens at the cost of turning a meaningful passage into unintelligible mush.) Remember the original hymn passage &quot;...guide us in distress/ and free us from all sin/ &#039;til heaven we possess&quot;?  In our hymnal, this has become &quot;...guide us when perplexed/ and free us from all fear/ in this world and the next.&quot;  Perplexed??  Gimme a break!

Another coming attraction is &quot;I believe...&quot; instead of &quot;We believe...&quot; at the opening of the Credo.  How dare they change our Credo, some may ask.  Until they realize that credo means &quot;I believe&quot;, and is the real opening to this prayer.  And rightly so.  We all know that &quot;we believe.&quot;  But for each of us the telling question is &quot;yes, but do I believe?&quot;  We&#039;ll soon have the opportunity (again) to answer this question in public each week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notwithstanding goral, above (LOL), I grew up with &#8220;And with your spirit.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The whole question of restoring the way of expressing the introductory rites begs the question, why was the original dropped?  I do believe it was because there has been a jihad against certain truths of the faith, based perhaps on some popular modern theological ideas, to rid us of the notion of the human soul by simply dropping any reference to it.  (In case anyone wonders about the status of soul in our teachings, I commend the passage from &#8220;Deus Caritas Est&#8221; which says, &#8220;It is the whole person, body and soul, who loves.&#8221;)</p>
<p>There are other truths of the faith under similar &#8220;stealth attack&#8221; in the changing of wording in both liturgy and hymns.  Even sin and redemption have been denied this way.  (Must be important to deny heaven, because it happens at the cost of turning a meaningful passage into unintelligible mush.) Remember the original hymn passage &#8220;&#8230;guide us in distress/ and free us from all sin/ &#8217;til heaven we possess&#8221;?  In our hymnal, this has become &#8220;&#8230;guide us when perplexed/ and free us from all fear/ in this world and the next.&#8221;  Perplexed??  Gimme a break!</p>
<p>Another coming attraction is &#8220;I believe&#8230;&#8221; instead of &#8220;We believe&#8230;&#8221; at the opening of the Credo.  How dare they change our Credo, some may ask.  Until they realize that credo means &#8220;I believe&#8221;, and is the real opening to this prayer.  And rightly so.  We all know that &#8220;we believe.&#8221;  But for each of us the telling question is &#8220;yes, but do I believe?&#8221;  We&#8217;ll soon have the opportunity (again) to answer this question in public each week.</p>
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		<title>By: consecrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>consecrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 18:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a beautiful article...I am so grateful that there will be &#039;liturgical instruction&#039;...and I hope it includes other ways of celebrating the beauty and the sacredness and dignity of the holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Warm weather is here and already men and women and children are coming to Mass half naked, women with halter tops, shorts way above their knees, men in tank tops and short shorts...at our Church, we have exposition/adortion of the Blessed Sacrament after the Masses and yet people congregate near the altar talking and laughing loudly...there are people who come from their jobs to attend the noon Mass and want to spend a moment with the Lord in silence after Mass but this is impossible, so I hope Liturgical instruction will include all of this. Once people learn the significance of the Mass, the extraordinary blessing of the Blessed Sacrament, then all else will fall into place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a beautiful article&#8230;I am so grateful that there will be &#8216;liturgical instruction&#8217;&#8230;and I hope it includes other ways of celebrating the beauty and the sacredness and dignity of the holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Warm weather is here and already men and women and children are coming to Mass half naked, women with halter tops, shorts way above their knees, men in tank tops and short shorts&#8230;at our Church, we have exposition/adortion of the Blessed Sacrament after the Masses and yet people congregate near the altar talking and laughing loudly&#8230;there are people who come from their jobs to attend the noon Mass and want to spend a moment with the Lord in silence after Mass but this is impossible, so I hope Liturgical instruction will include all of this. Once people learn the significance of the Mass, the extraordinary blessing of the Blessed Sacrament, then all else will fall into place.</p>
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		<title>By: goral</title>
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		<dc:creator>goral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 13:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>et te cum quoque, masculus magnus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>et te cum quoque, masculus magnus.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention The Introductory Rites: No Mere Greeting &#124; Catholic Exchange -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 15:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Mark Armstrong and Catholic Exchange, James Pereira. James Pereira said: The Introductory Rites: No Mere Greeting: On April 28, 2010, Pope Benedict XVI received a hardbound copy of the re... http://bit.ly/dzedoS [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Louie Verrecchio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louie Verrecchio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 14:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morin Guys! Thank you both.

I must apologize... My webmaster is working to get the necessary links up on harvestingthefruit.com ASAP. I&#039;m sorry to say it&#039;s way beyond my ability. I anticipated it being on the site sooner. Sorry about that. I will post a message here when he&#039;s finished. I appreciate the interest very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morin Guys! Thank you both.</p>
<p>I must apologize&#8230; My webmaster is working to get the necessary links up on harvestingthefruit.com ASAP. I&#8217;m sorry to say it&#8217;s way beyond my ability. I anticipated it being on the site sooner. Sorry about that. I will post a message here when he&#8217;s finished. I appreciate the interest very much.</p>
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		<title>By: fatherjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>fatherjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 13:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arkanabar: go up to Louie&#039;s biography box and click on www.harvestingthefruit.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arkanabar: go up to Louie&#8217;s biography box and click on <a href="http://www.harvestingthefruit.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.harvestingthefruit.com</a></p>
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