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	<title>Comments on: Takeaways from Tiger’s “Transgressions”</title>
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		<title>By: c-kingsley</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2009/12/08/124843/comment-page-1/#comment-44425</link>
		<dc:creator>c-kingsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t we say that having a 31 month long adulterous affair is a sin?  

It&#039;s just ONE of the ten commandments.  Perhaps Jesus came to abolish the law, even though he said he didn&#039;t mean to?


I&#039;m not saying that TW is damned to hell, but what he did was Obviously sin.  I&#039;m not saying I&#039;m &quot;better&quot; than he is.  I&#039;m not saying that he committed his sins with full knowledge, and deliberate consent.  (CCC 1857)

But can we at least admit that it was a grave matter?  Can we at least admit that some actions are intrinsically evil?


CCC 1858: Grave Matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: &quot;Do not kill.  Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, do not defraud, honor your father and your mother.&quot;


The same Jesus who told us &quot;do not judge,&quot; also told us how to live.  He told us that if we love Him we will keep his commandments.  Some parts of Judgment are subjective, and reserved to God.  However, some parts of Judgment are Objective, and anyone can tell when your actions are violating the commandments of God.  &quot;Go, and sin no more.&quot;


Would you like to ask your Wife / Girlfriend what she would think of you if you behaved this way?


Gets my dander up when I hear people relying on &quot;do not judge&quot; to excuse rotten behavior!  If you even hint at that kind of &quot;judgment&quot;, you&#039;ll be kept at a safe distance from my daughters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t we say that having a 31 month long adulterous affair is a sin?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just ONE of the ten commandments.  Perhaps Jesus came to abolish the law, even though he said he didn&#8217;t mean to?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that TW is damned to hell, but what he did was Obviously sin.  I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;m &#8220;better&#8221; than he is.  I&#8217;m not saying that he committed his sins with full knowledge, and deliberate consent.  (CCC 1857)</p>
<p>But can we at least admit that it was a grave matter?  Can we at least admit that some actions are intrinsically evil?</p>
<p>CCC 1858: Grave Matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: &#8220;Do not kill.  Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, do not defraud, honor your father and your mother.&#8221;</p>
<p>The same Jesus who told us &#8220;do not judge,&#8221; also told us how to live.  He told us that if we love Him we will keep his commandments.  Some parts of Judgment are subjective, and reserved to God.  However, some parts of Judgment are Objective, and anyone can tell when your actions are violating the commandments of God.  &#8220;Go, and sin no more.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would you like to ask your Wife / Girlfriend what she would think of you if you behaved this way?</p>
<p>Gets my dander up when I hear people relying on &#8220;do not judge&#8221; to excuse rotten behavior!  If you even hint at that kind of &#8220;judgment&#8221;, you&#8217;ll be kept at a safe distance from my daughters!</p>
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		<title>By: aurit</title>
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		<dc:creator>aurit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is grossly obvious that what he did is wrong.  That is my judgement.  We have judges everywhere in the legal system.  It is their job to judge.

You can judge actions, but not the person&#039;s soul.  I don&#039;t know what internally drove him to do it.  That is for God.  He used &quot;poor&quot; judgement himself.  The term &quot;judgement&quot; is misapplied too many times.  Objectively, his actions were sinful.  It is very clear.  What stain it has caused his soul, I don&#039;t know.  

What a great example for our kids.  &quot;Be like Mike&quot;.  Now it is &quot;Be like Tiger&quot;.

Will all these groups drop Tiger.  Maybe.  Eventually, after golf is over for his career.  You don&#039;t see Jordon on the TV like he used to be either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is grossly obvious that what he did is wrong.  That is my judgement.  We have judges everywhere in the legal system.  It is their job to judge.</p>
<p>You can judge actions, but not the person&#8217;s soul.  I don&#8217;t know what internally drove him to do it.  That is for God.  He used &#8220;poor&#8221; judgement himself.  The term &#8220;judgement&#8221; is misapplied too many times.  Objectively, his actions were sinful.  It is very clear.  What stain it has caused his soul, I don&#8217;t know.  </p>
<p>What a great example for our kids.  &#8220;Be like Mike&#8221;.  Now it is &#8220;Be like Tiger&#8221;.</p>
<p>Will all these groups drop Tiger.  Maybe.  Eventually, after golf is over for his career.  You don&#8217;t see Jordon on the TV like he used to be either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let me see if I understand this: we can&#039;t judge Tiger because we are sinners. Right? Okay.  Sounds good. Now, if we (as individuals) can&#039;t judge Tiger, why or how can Corporate America take away his financial backing? I mean, wouldn&#039;t that be a form of judging?

Seems to me you can&#039;t have it both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let me see if I understand this: we can&#8217;t judge Tiger because we are sinners. Right? Okay.  Sounds good. Now, if we (as individuals) can&#8217;t judge Tiger, why or how can Corporate America take away his financial backing? I mean, wouldn&#8217;t that be a form of judging?</p>
<p>Seems to me you can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kochan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kochan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we are to love the sinner and hate... NOTHING!! because hey, we don&#039;t know if adultery is a sin or not.  So it&#039;s just love, love, love...sing it with me folks: 
All you need is love(bump da da da dum)
All you need is love(bump da da da dum)
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need
Love, love, love (bump da da da dum)
Love, love, love (bump da da da dum)
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need
Love is all you need
Love is all you need
Love is all you need...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we are to love the sinner and hate&#8230; NOTHING!! because hey, we don&#8217;t know if adultery is a sin or not.  So it&#8217;s just love, love, love&#8230;sing it with me folks:<br />
All you need is love(bump da da da dum)<br />
All you need is love(bump da da da dum)<br />
All you need is love, love<br />
Love is all you need<br />
Love, love, love (bump da da da dum)<br />
Love, love, love (bump da da da dum)<br />
All you need is love, love<br />
Love is all you need<br />
Love is all you need<br />
Love is all you need<br />
Love is all you need&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: noelfitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>noelfitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a balanced article, which points out that none of us is perfect.

I read:
&quot;Jesus makes clear that we are to be compassionate, to love the sinner and to hate the sin. Our challenge, like Tiger’s, is to pick ourselves up and to strive to sin no more.&quot;

Does this imply that Tiger&#039;s actions were sinful?  I do not think any one of us is entitled to judge another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a balanced article, which points out that none of us is perfect.</p>
<p>I read:<br />
&#8220;Jesus makes clear that we are to be compassionate, to love the sinner and to hate the sin. Our challenge, like Tiger’s, is to pick ourselves up and to strive to sin no more.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does this imply that Tiger&#8217;s actions were sinful?  I do not think any one of us is entitled to judge another.</p>
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