Comments on: Nancy Pelosi and the Claims of Conscience http://catholicexchange.com/2009/11/04/123293/ Catholic News, Catholic Articles, Catholic Apologetics, Catholic Content, Catholic Information Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: consecrata http://catholicexchange.com/2009/11/04/123293/comment-page-1/#comment-43771 consecrata Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:03:16 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=123293#comment-43771 Nancy Pelosi strong arms her people and actively, passionately, promotes and fosters her pro abortion agenda. She is openly defiant of Catholic Church teachings and who can blame her. She claims that no Bishop has reprimanded her and that the Bishops have differing opinions on essential Church teachings and that it must be a 'regional' thing...if a child is engaged in or promoting something that is gravely evil and the parent warns the child to stop the behavior and explains why but the child continues on the same path, but the parent gives no consequences then the child may rightly believe his behavior is really no big deal. So it is with 'Catholic' politicians who brazenly continue in fostering the grave moral evil of abortion because they receive no consequences and are permitted to receive the Eucharist despite their open and public defiance of the Church. Who is more responsible? The Bishops or the Politicians? Archbishop Burke has claimed over and over again that the Canon Law of the Church prohibits those who publicly go against Church teachings and encourage others to do so from receiving the Eucharist...but the Bishops 'disagree' even about this...I wonder if the 'American' Church will one day split from the Roman Catholic Church? We have many wonderful, courageous Catholic Bishops who stand with the Church...but there are those who do not. We have to pray for all...and for the soul of our nation. Mother Teresa told us that a nation that kills its young cannot survive. And we cannot. So let's pray... Nancy Pelosi strong arms her people and actively, passionately, promotes and fosters her pro abortion agenda. She is openly defiant of Catholic Church teachings and who can blame her. She claims that no Bishop has reprimanded her and that the Bishops have differing opinions on essential Church teachings and that it must be a ‘regional’ thing…if a child is engaged in or promoting something that is gravely evil and the parent warns the child to stop the behavior and explains why but the child continues on the same path, but the parent gives no consequences then the child may rightly believe his behavior is really no big deal. So it is with ‘Catholic’ politicians who brazenly continue in fostering the grave moral evil of abortion because they receive no consequences and are permitted to receive the Eucharist despite their open and public defiance of the Church. Who is more responsible? The Bishops or the Politicians? Archbishop Burke has claimed over and over again that the Canon Law of the Church prohibits those who publicly go against Church teachings and encourage others to do so from receiving the Eucharist…but the Bishops ‘disagree’ even about this…I wonder if the ‘American’ Church will one day split from the Roman Catholic Church? We have many wonderful, courageous Catholic Bishops who stand with the Church…but there are those who do not. We have to pray for all…and for the soul of our nation. Mother Teresa told us that a nation that kills its young cannot survive. And we cannot. So let’s pray…

]]> By: tomdundee http://catholicexchange.com/2009/11/04/123293/comment-page-1/#comment-43770 tomdundee Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:39:50 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=123293#comment-43770 dennisofraliegh, It was not Catholic education, but lack integrity, something that got lost in Washington DC, when they were seduced by the forces of the dark side. Some place they developed a deep and real hatred of the US. dennisofraliegh,

It was not Catholic education, but lack integrity, something that got lost in Washington DC, when they were seduced by the forces of the dark side. Some place they developed a deep and real hatred of the US.

]]> By: Arkanabar Ilarsadin http://catholicexchange.com/2009/11/04/123293/comment-page-1/#comment-43763 Arkanabar Ilarsadin Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:15:41 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=123293#comment-43763 Our elected representatives mostly represent themselves, and those who buy their votes with campaign contributions. They are nearly impossible to unseat; I've ranted on that before: http://arkanabar.tripod.com/vote.html Our elected representatives mostly represent themselves, and those who buy their votes with campaign contributions. They are nearly impossible to unseat; I’ve ranted on that before: http://arkanabar.tripod.com/vote.html

]]> By: dennisofraleigh http://catholicexchange.com/2009/11/04/123293/comment-page-1/#comment-43762 dennisofraleigh Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:59:37 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=123293#comment-43762 "...the Speaker of the House of Representatives, an “ardently” Catholic woman formed by 16 years of Catholic education..." And therein lies much of the problem. Catholic education in the U.S., (a problem that goes back to the 1960's, at least) from parochial school up to university level has, with rare exception, done an abysmal job in properly catechizing and forming American youth. Pelosi is an excellent example of "Catholic" formation gone awry. The same could be said for the vast majority of Pelosi's fellow "Catholic" lawmakers in Congress. Remember former V.P. candidate Geraldine Ferraro's famous caveat that she could support abortion "rights," but so long as she was "personally opposed," and that it made it somehow morally excusable? That sort of thinking is right out of the post-Vatican II American catechetical handbook. No longer was it necessary to believe and obey everything taught by the Church's Holy See or Her bishops. One had only to search one's "conscience" and if "conscience" said this or that conduct was OK, that settled it. There is no other way to explain the brazen defiance of America's Catholic lawmakers who attend Mass regularly, receive Holy Communion (yet another outrage layered on that of the abortion scandal), proclaim their Catholicity at election time, and turn right around and warmly embrace the accolades of the likes of NARAL and Planned Parenthood for their support of abortion. And do you think their Catholic constituents who vote in their districts are any different? Why would anyone think otherwise? They experienced (for the most part) the same Catholic catechetical mal-formation as those pro-abort lawmakers they send back to Congress time after time. Or no Catholic formation at all. If we're to see any sea change in this tragic situation we must pray for the conversion of hearts: Catholic lawmakers and Catholic voters alike. “…the Speaker of the House of Representatives, an “ardently” Catholic woman formed by 16 years of Catholic education…” And therein lies much of the problem. Catholic education in the U.S., (a problem that goes back to the 1960′s, at least) from parochial school up to university level has, with rare exception, done an abysmal job in properly catechizing and forming American youth. Pelosi is an excellent example of “Catholic” formation gone awry. The same could be said for the vast majority of Pelosi’s fellow “Catholic” lawmakers in Congress.

Remember former V.P. candidate Geraldine Ferraro’s famous caveat that she could support abortion “rights,” but so long as she was “personally opposed,” and that it made it somehow morally excusable? That sort of thinking is right out of the post-Vatican II American catechetical handbook. No longer was it necessary to believe and obey everything taught by the Church’s Holy See or Her bishops. One had only to search one’s “conscience” and if “conscience” said this or that conduct was OK, that settled it.

There is no other way to explain the brazen defiance of America’s Catholic lawmakers who attend Mass regularly, receive Holy Communion (yet another outrage layered on that of the abortion scandal), proclaim their Catholicity at election time, and turn right around and warmly embrace the accolades of the likes of NARAL and Planned Parenthood for their support of abortion.

And do you think their Catholic constituents who vote in their districts are any different? Why would anyone think otherwise? They experienced (for the most part) the same Catholic catechetical mal-formation as those pro-abort lawmakers they send back to Congress time after time. Or no Catholic formation at all.

If we’re to see any sea change in this tragic situation we must pray for the conversion of hearts: Catholic lawmakers and Catholic voters alike.

]]> By: SeanReynoldsNZ http://catholicexchange.com/2009/11/04/123293/comment-page-1/#comment-43758 SeanReynoldsNZ Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:54:01 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=123293#comment-43758 Do your elected representatives in your Senate and House of Representatives represent their electorates to the Federal Government? Or do they represent their parties to their constituency? Do your elected representatives work for you or for their parties? Pelosi cannot actually control the vote of any member of your Congress unless those members allow her to do so, and in that case they are the ones ultimately responsible for their vote. And you know what that means: Make them do an honest job in November next year. Do your elected representatives in your Senate and House of Representatives represent their electorates to the Federal Government? Or do they represent their parties to their constituency? Do your elected representatives work for you or for their parties?

Pelosi cannot actually control the vote of any member of your Congress unless those members allow her to do so, and in that case they are the ones ultimately responsible for their vote. And you know what that means: Make them do an honest job in November next year.

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