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		<title>By: elkabrikir</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2009/09/15/121835/comment-page-1/#comment-42739</link>
		<dc:creator>elkabrikir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, what the government hasn&#039;t stolen from me I&#039;ll send to my fellow &quot;truth sayer&quot;. For it doesn&#039;t take a &quot;soothsayer&quot; to know &quot;You lie&quot;.

Oh!  I forgot,  blurting out those words was an obvious move to fatten his war chest and recruit some linen from the--now--defunct Springmaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, what the government hasn&#8217;t stolen from me I&#8217;ll send to my fellow &#8220;truth sayer&#8221;. For it doesn&#8217;t take a &#8220;soothsayer&#8221; to know &#8220;You lie&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh!  I forgot,  blurting out those words was an obvious move to fatten his war chest and recruit some linen from the&#8211;now&#8211;defunct Springmaid.</p>
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		<title>By: terrygeorge</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2009/09/15/121835/comment-page-1/#comment-42738</link>
		<dc:creator>terrygeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>enlightening little collection of data.  however, even an electorate which is 40 percent conservative is still not majority conservative.  surely lots of conservatives simply didn&#039;t show up to vote in the first place, and even if all 40 percent had it wouldn&#039;t have been enough to overcome obama&#039;s lead.  obama won by winning over the non-liberal non-conservative &quot;middle&quot;.  agreed the liberally biased media had an influence on that, but there were other factors.  agreed many people turned they&#039;re discernment caps off because they wanted to vote for the first minority president, and not just minority voters either.  there were also a lot of first time voters, many of whom will probably be dissappointed and not not vote again.
     as for the catholics who voted pro choice, i believe our bishops need to repeat and repeat the pre-eminence of the pro life issue in our time over and over again until the catholic electorate gets the message.  i believe this is a pattern of teaching that God used and uses with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>enlightening little collection of data.  however, even an electorate which is 40 percent conservative is still not majority conservative.  surely lots of conservatives simply didn&#8217;t show up to vote in the first place, and even if all 40 percent had it wouldn&#8217;t have been enough to overcome obama&#8217;s lead.  obama won by winning over the non-liberal non-conservative &#8220;middle&#8221;.  agreed the liberally biased media had an influence on that, but there were other factors.  agreed many people turned they&#8217;re discernment caps off because they wanted to vote for the first minority president, and not just minority voters either.  there were also a lot of first time voters, many of whom will probably be dissappointed and not not vote again.<br />
     as for the catholics who voted pro choice, i believe our bishops need to repeat and repeat the pre-eminence of the pro life issue in our time over and over again until the catholic electorate gets the message.  i believe this is a pattern of teaching that God used and uses with us.</p>
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		<title>By: goral</title>
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		<dc:creator>goral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your assumption, Elkabrikir is that the gov&#039;t administrators of the exam would know enough to make the proper corrections. I&#039;m not kidding.

Our Electoral College was set up just for such an occurance. The electorate has demonstrated that they are a french fry order shy of a happy meal, it&#039;s time to step in and save the Republic. 

Not so, this College like most colleges is top heavy with Marxists. We have sown the wind and it&#039;s certain what follows.

I must congratulate you for giving us Rep. Joe Wilson. That was/is a priceless moment.

Here&#039;s what some likely administrator of the citizenship exam had to say about him:
    &quot;I guess we&#039;ll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people. That&#039;s the logical conclusion if this kind of attitude is not rebuked.&quot;

I repeat, I&#039;m not kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your assumption, Elkabrikir is that the gov&#8217;t administrators of the exam would know enough to make the proper corrections. I&#8217;m not kidding.</p>
<p>Our Electoral College was set up just for such an occurance. The electorate has demonstrated that they are a french fry order shy of a happy meal, it&#8217;s time to step in and save the Republic. </p>
<p>Not so, this College like most colleges is top heavy with Marxists. We have sown the wind and it&#8217;s certain what follows.</p>
<p>I must congratulate you for giving us Rep. Joe Wilson. That was/is a priceless moment.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what some likely administrator of the citizenship exam had to say about him:<br />
    &#8220;I guess we&#8217;ll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people. That&#8217;s the logical conclusion if this kind of attitude is not rebuked.&#8221;</p>
<p>I repeat, I&#8217;m not kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: elkabrikir</title>
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		<dc:creator>elkabrikir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say, return to the era of qualifying voters to cast the ballot.  A voter should know basic facts as an American like:  the number of stars on the flag and a flag&#039;s hanging orientation.  They should know what the Consitution is and be able to read the preamble.  They should be able to define &quot;Welfare&quot; as something more than what the government owes them.  

Also, a basic understanding of civics should be demonstrated through testing.  For instance, as Americans we&#039;d better know how federalism  and separation of powers define our Liberty and work to limit government.  Oh yeah!  The concept of  &quot;Individual&quot; versus &quot;proletariate&quot; must be explored in essay form before the franchise is granted.  Wait, let me back up, that would imply a citizen must know how to write a coherant SENTENCE...or is it sentance? (Now we&#039;re talking potential trouble.)

Owning property, or some other wealth measure, should be re-instituted.  People vote their financial interest.  When half the electorate don&#039;t pay taxes, they&#039;re happy to elect somebody who taxes me!

These safeguards would help keep &quot;emotional&quot; uninformed,  &quot;schizophrenic, irrational electorate&quot; from electing their future dictator.

Of course I don&#039;t have all the details ironed out, but please ram my ideas into law within the next two weeks, or we will actually be consumed by Global Warming instantly. There won&#039;t even be any skulls left to toss into a pit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say, return to the era of qualifying voters to cast the ballot.  A voter should know basic facts as an American like:  the number of stars on the flag and a flag&#8217;s hanging orientation.  They should know what the Consitution is and be able to read the preamble.  They should be able to define &#8220;Welfare&#8221; as something more than what the government owes them.  </p>
<p>Also, a basic understanding of civics should be demonstrated through testing.  For instance, as Americans we&#8217;d better know how federalism  and separation of powers define our Liberty and work to limit government.  Oh yeah!  The concept of  &#8220;Individual&#8221; versus &#8220;proletariate&#8221; must be explored in essay form before the franchise is granted.  Wait, let me back up, that would imply a citizen must know how to write a coherant SENTENCE&#8230;or is it sentance? (Now we&#8217;re talking potential trouble.)</p>
<p>Owning property, or some other wealth measure, should be re-instituted.  People vote their financial interest.  When half the electorate don&#8217;t pay taxes, they&#8217;re happy to elect somebody who taxes me!</p>
<p>These safeguards would help keep &#8220;emotional&#8221; uninformed,  &#8220;schizophrenic, irrational electorate&#8221; from electing their future dictator.</p>
<p>Of course I don&#8217;t have all the details ironed out, but please ram my ideas into law within the next two weeks, or we will actually be consumed by Global Warming instantly. There won&#8217;t even be any skulls left to toss into a pit.</p>
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		<title>By: goral</title>
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		<dc:creator>goral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We’re watching the inevitable clash between a schizophrenic, irrational electorate and a principled, leftist president.&quot;

While I agree with Dr. Kengor that some of that is the case, I don&#039;t see the throngs of patriots who assembled in DC over the weekend as partly that electorate. I actually would be surprised if any of them would make the sacrifice. No, this group were the real conservatives.

The schitzoids watched it on CNN and believed as they were told that there were 
70K people there. 
None of this is &quot;remotely logical&quot;, it also isn&#039;t logical that our Catholic brethren did the same.
All of this is more than disquieting. Such brainwashing and blatant disregard of facts and reality always ends in a mound of skulls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We’re watching the inevitable clash between a schizophrenic, irrational electorate and a principled, leftist president.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I agree with Dr. Kengor that some of that is the case, I don&#8217;t see the throngs of patriots who assembled in DC over the weekend as partly that electorate. I actually would be surprised if any of them would make the sacrifice. No, this group were the real conservatives.</p>
<p>The schitzoids watched it on CNN and believed as they were told that there were<br />
70K people there.<br />
None of this is &#8220;remotely logical&#8221;, it also isn&#8217;t logical that our Catholic brethren did the same.<br />
All of this is more than disquieting. Such brainwashing and blatant disregard of facts and reality always ends in a mound of skulls.</p>
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		<title>By: PrairieHawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>PrairieHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain-Palin may not have been the perfect conservative ticket, but I remember the days after the Republican convention last year when the campaign banners read &quot;Reform.&quot; I remember thinking, finally we&#039;ve found the perfect message to counter Obama&#039;s empty rhetoric about &quot;Change.&quot; Reform is a stronger, more specific word than change and the Republicans could have carried that message to victory, I felt. But after a week or two McCain-Palin seemed to lose that message and we stopped hearing about reform, and it was all downhill from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain-Palin may not have been the perfect conservative ticket, but I remember the days after the Republican convention last year when the campaign banners read &#8220;Reform.&#8221; I remember thinking, finally we&#8217;ve found the perfect message to counter Obama&#8217;s empty rhetoric about &#8220;Change.&#8221; Reform is a stronger, more specific word than change and the Republicans could have carried that message to victory, I felt. But after a week or two McCain-Palin seemed to lose that message and we stopped hearing about reform, and it was all downhill from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe DeVet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe DeVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is comforting in a way, and very disquieting in another.

Comforting in that there&#039;s hope that the grass-roots groundswell will somehow defeat the hard-left direction of this administration.  

Disquieting in that an empty bag of wind like Obama could lull all those presumed conservatives to sleep.  It took no effort at all to discern that this man is toxic--and yet it was overlooked by many &quot;conservatives.&quot;

Disquieting in another way, too, not mentioned in this article.  The majority of our fellow Catholics voted for this guy.  It is very disappointing to know that we would be spared the present culture-of-death presidency had the Catholics only done their duty last November--but they did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is comforting in a way, and very disquieting in another.</p>
<p>Comforting in that there&#8217;s hope that the grass-roots groundswell will somehow defeat the hard-left direction of this administration.  </p>
<p>Disquieting in that an empty bag of wind like Obama could lull all those presumed conservatives to sleep.  It took no effort at all to discern that this man is toxic&#8211;and yet it was overlooked by many &#8220;conservatives.&#8221;</p>
<p>Disquieting in another way, too, not mentioned in this article.  The majority of our fellow Catholics voted for this guy.  It is very disappointing to know that we would be spared the present culture-of-death presidency had the Catholics only done their duty last November&#8211;but they did not.</p>
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		<title>By: theshahids</title>
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		<dc:creator>theshahids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the author in general, but I also feel that John McCain, as much as I admire him for his courage while serving in the military, was an very unappealing choice for conservative Americans desiring fiscal responsibility and accountability, while Mr. Obama chanted fiscally responsible quotes in his campaigning - now seen in hindsight to have been double speak- to lure his opponents to sleep.  Also, one cannot discount the tremendous draw that Mr. Obama had on minority groups who turned out to vote for him regardless of lack of experience or leftist views.  These same groups who voted mostly on pure emotion simply pulled the lever for straight ticket Democrat and gave us Pelosi, Reid, et al.  I pray for more a more levelheaded election in 2010 when Mr. Obama is not on the ballet to draw out the non-reasoning mass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the author in general, but I also feel that John McCain, as much as I admire him for his courage while serving in the military, was an very unappealing choice for conservative Americans desiring fiscal responsibility and accountability, while Mr. Obama chanted fiscally responsible quotes in his campaigning &#8211; now seen in hindsight to have been double speak- to lure his opponents to sleep.  Also, one cannot discount the tremendous draw that Mr. Obama had on minority groups who turned out to vote for him regardless of lack of experience or leftist views.  These same groups who voted mostly on pure emotion simply pulled the lever for straight ticket Democrat and gave us Pelosi, Reid, et al.  I pray for more a more levelheaded election in 2010 when Mr. Obama is not on the ballet to draw out the non-reasoning mass.</p>
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