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		<title>By: mrteachersir</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2009/08/24/121331/comment-page-1/#comment-42033</link>
		<dc:creator>mrteachersir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As my bishop has stated, we as Catholics have a right to reverent, solemn and pious Liturgy according to the norms of Holy Mother Church.  We should not hove to walk away upset, angered, etc, at the proceedings.  

While our Eucharistic Lord is present at every (valid) Mass, it is our souls and hearts that suffer through banalities and distractions.  We can&#039;t focus on the beautiful words of the Roman Canon (if it is being used), nor can we properly dispose our hearts and minds to the Sacrifice.

Mass is about what the Divine does for us...not what we do for ourselves.  Often, &quot;liturgists&quot; distract our attention from the Divine to the human.  this is not what Mass is about.

That being said, there is always a silver lining at Mass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my bishop has stated, we as Catholics have a right to reverent, solemn and pious Liturgy according to the norms of Holy Mother Church.  We should not hove to walk away upset, angered, etc, at the proceedings.  </p>
<p>While our Eucharistic Lord is present at every (valid) Mass, it is our souls and hearts that suffer through banalities and distractions.  We can&#8217;t focus on the beautiful words of the Roman Canon (if it is being used), nor can we properly dispose our hearts and minds to the Sacrifice.</p>
<p>Mass is about what the Divine does for us&#8230;not what we do for ourselves.  Often, &#8220;liturgists&#8221; distract our attention from the Divine to the human.  this is not what Mass is about.</p>
<p>That being said, there is always a silver lining at Mass.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, that is too much!  (The nun talking about the beautiful day that &quot;she&quot; (God) had blessed you with!  Unbelievable.  You say upstate NY;  I wonder if that was in the liberal diocese of Albany where I live?  There are very few nuns here who wear habits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, that is too much!  (The nun talking about the beautiful day that &#8220;she&#8221; (God) had blessed you with!  Unbelievable.  You say upstate NY;  I wonder if that was in the liberal diocese of Albany where I live?  There are very few nuns here who wear habits.</p>
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		<title>By: jmtfh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmtfh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preach it! GreenmomforJesus!

While I, too, prefer a more traditional setting for Sunday Mass (daily mass is a great gift no matter how &quot;funky&quot; it may seem--it is still a valid, canonical mass. 

Who am I to harp on my teenagers when they say,&quot;Mass is boring&quot; at the more traditional church I may enjoy, if I then turn around and am so critical about how another Catholic church celebrates the liturgy?

It&#039;s like we sometimes tell our children when they complain, &quot;The Lord is still present and we go to join in the assembly and give Him our worship--so let&#039;s be happy we CAN go to mass and are not imprisioned for doing so!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preach it! GreenmomforJesus!</p>
<p>While I, too, prefer a more traditional setting for Sunday Mass (daily mass is a great gift no matter how &#8220;funky&#8221; it may seem&#8211;it is still a valid, canonical mass. </p>
<p>Who am I to harp on my teenagers when they say,&#8221;Mass is boring&#8221; at the more traditional church I may enjoy, if I then turn around and am so critical about how another Catholic church celebrates the liturgy?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like we sometimes tell our children when they complain, &#8220;The Lord is still present and we go to join in the assembly and give Him our worship&#8211;so let&#8217;s be happy we CAN go to mass and are not imprisioned for doing so!!!</p>
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		<title>By: genenfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>genenfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have experienced similar &quot;progressive Masses&quot; while traveling Doreen.  Although it&#039;s true Jesus is present during the banal goings on, is it not better to have a beautiful Mass to worship Our Lord? Our own parish is reasonably traditional but has some annoying things in the liturgy. The Gloria is as  follows: Gloria (clap clap) Gloria (clap clap), in excelsis Deo.  And we have a guitarist that likes to play parts of vulgar pop tunes such as &quot;Puff the Magic Dragon&quot; just before Mass starts! To get a respite from all of this I try and go to a Carmelite Monastery once a month (it&#039;s an hours drive from my house) where they have a beautiful Traditional Mass using the Adoremus Hymn Book. The Cantor has a beautiful voice and an organ is the only musical instrument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have experienced similar &#8220;progressive Masses&#8221; while traveling Doreen.  Although it&#8217;s true Jesus is present during the banal goings on, is it not better to have a beautiful Mass to worship Our Lord? Our own parish is reasonably traditional but has some annoying things in the liturgy. The Gloria is as  follows: Gloria (clap clap) Gloria (clap clap), in excelsis Deo.  And we have a guitarist that likes to play parts of vulgar pop tunes such as &#8220;Puff the Magic Dragon&#8221; just before Mass starts! To get a respite from all of this I try and go to a Carmelite Monastery once a month (it&#8217;s an hours drive from my house) where they have a beautiful Traditional Mass using the Adoremus Hymn Book. The Cantor has a beautiful voice and an organ is the only musical instrument.</p>
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		<title>By: rakeys</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2009/08/24/121331/comment-page-1/#comment-42015</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I go to a meeting out  of town, or vacation, I have been very impressed with the quality of the Mass. Everwhere it is the same liturgy, same readings, same Eucharist. There are truly people who are very humbly serving their Lord. I come away with the feeling that God is present. True, some people take things a little lightly, but they are there. Rejoice in the presence of people in the presence of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I go to a meeting out  of town, or vacation, I have been very impressed with the quality of the Mass. Everwhere it is the same liturgy, same readings, same Eucharist. There are truly people who are very humbly serving their Lord. I come away with the feeling that God is present. True, some people take things a little lightly, but they are there. Rejoice in the presence of people in the presence of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Gemma Riordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gemma Riordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevertheless, Jesus gave us eyes and an intellect so that when something is amiss it is natural to notice, especially what appears to be blatant lack of respect (in other&#039;s attire immediately before your eyes and ears.) Praying that other&#039;s neglect, whether intentional or not, is informed by the loving wisdom and grace of the Almighty. Immodesty is yet another concern; so many seem uninformed or poorly formed in the virtues. For the greater glory of God and the love of our neighbors let us press on all the more fervently in charity, hope, and perseverence despite the culture surrounding us. Let&#039;s build that civilization of love and invite all to share in His abundant life. There is a better way. Lord, lead all souls to heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevertheless, Jesus gave us eyes and an intellect so that when something is amiss it is natural to notice, especially what appears to be blatant lack of respect (in other&#8217;s attire immediately before your eyes and ears.) Praying that other&#8217;s neglect, whether intentional or not, is informed by the loving wisdom and grace of the Almighty. Immodesty is yet another concern; so many seem uninformed or poorly formed in the virtues. For the greater glory of God and the love of our neighbors let us press on all the more fervently in charity, hope, and perseverence despite the culture surrounding us. Let&#8217;s build that civilization of love and invite all to share in His abundant life. There is a better way. Lord, lead all souls to heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: greenmomforjesus</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2009/08/24/121331/comment-page-1/#comment-42011</link>
		<dc:creator>greenmomforjesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny article. I&#039;m sure many of us have had some of these same thoughts.

With that said,
We need to always remember it&#039;s about JESUS in the Eucharist as Mass and what we give to Him as we receive HIM. 

It&#039;s not about what others are wearing or lackthereof, the music, the homily, the pews or kneelers (or lack of!), etc...

While having a more reverent priest, church, congregation does create a more reverent atmosphere in the Mass, we don&#039;t go for atmosphere. We go for JESUS true presence in the Word and the Eucharist.

When I was away from the Catholic church, the preaching and atmospher matter because Jesus wasn&#039;t there sacramentally, but HE is in every Catholic Mass.

Our priests are serving Christ and giving their lives for Him and His Church. The ones that &quot;seem&quot; not to be need our fervant prayers.

JESUS is what we seek, and HE is the same BODY, BLOOD, SOUL &amp; DIVINITY at EVERY Mass - regardless of what the surroundings look or sound like.
We need to focus on our interior soul.

&quot;Better one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere.&quot; Psalm 84:11</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny article. I&#8217;m sure many of us have had some of these same thoughts.</p>
<p>With that said,<br />
We need to always remember it&#8217;s about JESUS in the Eucharist as Mass and what we give to Him as we receive HIM. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about what others are wearing or lackthereof, the music, the homily, the pews or kneelers (or lack of!), etc&#8230;</p>
<p>While having a more reverent priest, church, congregation does create a more reverent atmosphere in the Mass, we don&#8217;t go for atmosphere. We go for JESUS true presence in the Word and the Eucharist.</p>
<p>When I was away from the Catholic church, the preaching and atmospher matter because Jesus wasn&#8217;t there sacramentally, but HE is in every Catholic Mass.</p>
<p>Our priests are serving Christ and giving their lives for Him and His Church. The ones that &#8220;seem&#8221; not to be need our fervant prayers.</p>
<p>JESUS is what we seek, and HE is the same BODY, BLOOD, SOUL &amp; DIVINITY at EVERY Mass &#8211; regardless of what the surroundings look or sound like.<br />
We need to focus on our interior soul.</p>
<p>&#8220;Better one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere.&#8221; Psalm 84:11</p>
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		<title>By: DWC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More times than not, we&#039;ve enjoyed our vacation mass. Most of the folks seem to be sincere catholics.  I enjoy visiting new churches.  I am almost always reminded of the univeralality of our faith ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More times than not, we&#8217;ve enjoyed our vacation mass. Most of the folks seem to be sincere catholics.  I enjoy visiting new churches.  I am almost always reminded of the univeralality of our faith &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LarryW2LJ</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2009/08/24/121331/comment-page-1/#comment-42009</link>
		<dc:creator>LarryW2LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been really lucky in all of my life as far as Church goes.  I have been a parishioner of two.  The Church I grew up in; and the one I belong to now after getting married and starting my own family.  Both parishes have been &quot;traditional&quot;.  I have gone to Church while travelling many times; and have been lucky ..... and not.

Once, down by Baltimore, I attended Mass at a parish where it was probably more appropriate to be singing &quot;Kumbayah&quot; rather than &quot;Holy, Holy, Holy&quot;.  The entire experience opened my eyes to the &quot;progressive&quot; side; and I was NOT comfortable.

Another time, in upstate NY, one of the &quot;sisters&quot; (at least I was led to believe that she was a nun) who was serving as a greeter commented on the beautiful day and how we should thank God for the beautiful day &quot;She&quot; was giving us.

I tried the same Church a few years later and I saw they had converted the interior from a really, really beautiful traditional motif to the &quot;Church in the Round&quot; motif.  That really saddened me.

On the flip side, I have been to St Rita&#039;s parish in Dayton, Ohio and had a most beautiful Mass experience there.

Sometimes you win; and sometimes you don&#039;t.

Larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been really lucky in all of my life as far as Church goes.  I have been a parishioner of two.  The Church I grew up in; and the one I belong to now after getting married and starting my own family.  Both parishes have been &#8220;traditional&#8221;.  I have gone to Church while travelling many times; and have been lucky &#8230;.. and not.</p>
<p>Once, down by Baltimore, I attended Mass at a parish where it was probably more appropriate to be singing &#8220;Kumbayah&#8221; rather than &#8220;Holy, Holy, Holy&#8221;.  The entire experience opened my eyes to the &#8220;progressive&#8221; side; and I was NOT comfortable.</p>
<p>Another time, in upstate NY, one of the &#8220;sisters&#8221; (at least I was led to believe that she was a nun) who was serving as a greeter commented on the beautiful day and how we should thank God for the beautiful day &#8220;She&#8221; was giving us.</p>
<p>I tried the same Church a few years later and I saw they had converted the interior from a really, really beautiful traditional motif to the &#8220;Church in the Round&#8221; motif.  That really saddened me.</p>
<p>On the flip side, I have been to St Rita&#8217;s parish in Dayton, Ohio and had a most beautiful Mass experience there.</p>
<p>Sometimes you win; and sometimes you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Larry</p>
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		<title>By: goral</title>
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		<dc:creator>goral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve also attended on several occassions, the beach parish of &quot;our lady of the big one&quot;.
More times than not the homily was skipped with the lame excuse that we &quot;good Catholics&quot; who have given up so much this morning to be present don&#039;t want to be bored by a homily. In that case, maybe we don&#039;t.

The Franciscans yesterday were superb as they always are. The problem was more in the pews. In front of us a young man with his mom was wearing a black t-shirt with a very large skull with wings on the back. Not to be outdone, a young girl had a similar tatoo in about the same position on her bare back. Luckily her mane covered it from time to time.

To my left, there was innocent St. Claire on the stained glass window.
Under her feet was a turbaned man, wielding a crescent sword. His stuggle was 
obviously futile. The struggles of all manner of rebellions will also be futile in the end. 

I&#039;m with Doreen - &quot;at least it was air conditioned&quot;. My new son-in-law told me that his Episcopal church never was. One for our side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve also attended on several occassions, the beach parish of &#8220;our lady of the big one&#8221;.<br />
More times than not the homily was skipped with the lame excuse that we &#8220;good Catholics&#8221; who have given up so much this morning to be present don&#8217;t want to be bored by a homily. In that case, maybe we don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The Franciscans yesterday were superb as they always are. The problem was more in the pews. In front of us a young man with his mom was wearing a black t-shirt with a very large skull with wings on the back. Not to be outdone, a young girl had a similar tatoo in about the same position on her bare back. Luckily her mane covered it from time to time.</p>
<p>To my left, there was innocent St. Claire on the stained glass window.<br />
Under her feet was a turbaned man, wielding a crescent sword. His stuggle was<br />
obviously futile. The struggles of all manner of rebellions will also be futile in the end. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Doreen &#8211; &#8220;at least it was air conditioned&#8221;. My new son-in-law told me that his Episcopal church never was. One for our side.</p>
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