Comments on: No Fault at Fault http://catholicexchange.com/2009/04/29/118073/ Catholic News, Catholic Articles, Catholic Apologetics, Catholic Content, Catholic Information Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: “O Lord, you are our father; we are the clay and you the potter: we are all the work of your hands” Isaiah 64:7 … God’s Free Children in Christ … “As proof that you are children, God sent the spirit of his Son into our http://catholicexchange.com/2009/04/29/118073/comment-page-1/#comment-40967 “O Lord, you are our father; we are the clay and you the potter: we are all the work of your hands” Isaiah 64:7 … God’s Free Children in Christ … “As proof that you are children, God sent the spirit of his Son into our Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:45:39 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=118073#comment-40967 [...] be wronged:  ”As Mike McManus points out in his sometimes angry new book about no fault, How To Cut America’s Divorce Rate in Half, in many states all or nearly all of the state legislators serving on relevant committees are [...] [...] be wronged:  ”As Mike McManus points out in his sometimes angry new book about no fault, How To Cut America’s Divorce Rate in Half, in many states all or nearly all of the state legislators serving on relevant committees are [...]

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]]> By: rememberCenturion http://catholicexchange.com/2009/04/29/118073/comment-page-1/#comment-39772 rememberCenturion Fri, 08 May 2009 01:55:14 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=118073#comment-39772 Dear jmtfh You're beautiful! ...and: You're a credit to the American Roman Catholic community and to the Sacrament of Matrimony! I pray that you continue in God's Graces to keep standing for the dignity of your Sacrament and as an example for your children and your confused husband! If you are not yet aware, there are three websites where you'll find some consolation and shared advice to buffer you from the abuse you've been suffering at the hands of the enemy and from your local church friends. The three web sites are the Yahoo discussion group defendingmarriage http://groups.yahoo.com/group/defendingmarriage/, the website Mary's Advocates http://www.marysadvocates.org/, and the website http://rejoiceministries.org/ . I agree that it sounds like your world has turned inside out and upside down. Believe-it-or-not: Your story has been repeated in my marriage/family and in those of many more who still stand -- as you are -- for the Sacrament you vowed to uphold at your wedding! If you want to understand the depths of what has been happening for the past fourty years in America, I highly-recommend you get your hands on a used copy of Professor Robert Vasoli's book What God has Joined Together. The author was a former University of Notre Dame professor and a sociologist. [Try www.half.com] Lastly, "A warning": If you believe your Marriage is valid [canon 1061.3 says that it is as long as one spouse believes it is] you will have only fifteen days to appeal the first Sentence your husband has petitioned for! If you appeal before the Roman Rota for the second opinion, you have a very good chance of having your longstanding Marriage affirmed as valid! Your parish priest should be counseling your husband concerning 1 Corinthians 7:10-11 in this the YEAR OF ST. PAUL! Your priest had no business second-guessing the validity of your Marriage before the Tribunal has conducted its investigation! Priests are taught canon 1060 which requires that all Marriages be held and respected as valid until proven otherwise. Sadly, what your priest said/did is all-too-common! May St. Mary of Cana intercede for you and for your children and may God continue to strengthen you in your stand! Dear jmtfh

You’re beautiful!

…and: You’re a credit to the American Roman Catholic community and to the Sacrament of Matrimony! I pray that you continue in God’s Graces to keep standing for the dignity of your Sacrament and as an example for your children and your confused husband!

If you are not yet aware, there are three websites where you’ll find some consolation and shared advice to buffer you from the abuse you’ve been suffering at the hands of the enemy and from your local church friends.

The three web sites are the Yahoo discussion group defendingmarriage http://groups.yahoo.com/group/defendingmarriage/, the website Mary’s Advocates http://www.marysadvocates.org/, and the website http://rejoiceministries.org/ .

I agree that it sounds like your world has turned inside out and upside down. Believe-it-or-not: Your story has been repeated in my marriage/family and in those of many more who still stand — as you are — for the Sacrament you vowed to uphold at your wedding!

If you want to understand the depths of what has been happening for the past fourty years in America, I highly-recommend you get your hands on a used copy of Professor Robert Vasoli’s book What God has Joined Together. The author was a former University of Notre Dame professor and a sociologist. [Try http://www.half.com

Lastly, "A warning": If you believe your Marriage is valid [canon 1061.3 says that it is as long as one spouse believes it is] you will have only fifteen days to appeal the first Sentence your husband has petitioned for! If you appeal before the Roman Rota for the second opinion, you have a very good chance of having your longstanding Marriage affirmed as valid!

Your parish priest should be counseling your husband concerning 1 Corinthians 7:10-11 in this the YEAR OF ST. PAUL! Your priest had no business second-guessing the validity of your Marriage before the Tribunal has conducted its investigation! Priests are taught canon 1060 which requires that all Marriages be held and respected as valid until proven otherwise. Sadly, what your priest said/did is all-too-common!

May St. Mary of Cana intercede for you and for your children and may God continue to strengthen you in your stand!

]]> By: jmtfh http://catholicexchange.com/2009/04/29/118073/comment-page-1/#comment-39620 jmtfh Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:10:22 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=118073#comment-39620 Hear! Hear! My four children and I are the victims of no-fault divorce in one of the most conservative states in the Union! My former husband decided, "he never loved me" and divorced me after 29 years of marriage. No matter that had I been a stay at home mom for 25 yrs and that I had home-educated our children, or that I had given up my career to support him in his career and raise our children, or that we were daily communicants...He is a Parish Administrator and Director of Faith Formation at a local Catholic church. My eldest has left the church. The youngest spent 6 days and 6 nights in an psych ward because, as an eleven yr. old, he was suicidal. Even our parish priest explained to me, wehn we went in to talk to him prior to the divorce saying, "Your husband said he never loved you. That is grounds for an annulment! Now my former husband he is seeking an annulment and it feels like I am going through the divorce all over. AND GET THIS! Someone in the parish actually set him up with another woman shortly after we divorced (the annulment has not been granted). I hope one day to work to the repeal of no-fault divorce. It leaves shattered lives and economic hardship of unbelievable proportions in its wake!!! Hear! Hear!

My four children and I are the victims of no-fault divorce in one of the most conservative states in the Union!

My former husband decided, “he never loved me” and divorced me after 29 years of marriage. No matter that had I been a stay at home mom for 25 yrs and that I had home-educated our children, or that I had given up my career to support him in his career and raise our children, or that we were daily communicants…He is a Parish Administrator and Director of Faith Formation at a local Catholic church.

My eldest has left the church. The youngest spent 6 days and 6 nights in an psych ward because, as an eleven yr. old, he was suicidal. Even our parish priest explained to me, wehn we went in to talk to him prior to the divorce saying, “Your husband said he never loved you. That is grounds for an annulment!

Now my former husband he is seeking an annulment and it feels like I am going through the divorce all over. AND GET THIS! Someone in the parish actually set him up with another woman shortly after we divorced (the annulment has not been granted).

I hope one day to work to the repeal of no-fault divorce. It leaves shattered lives and economic hardship of unbelievable proportions in its wake!!!

]]> By: PrairieHawk http://catholicexchange.com/2009/04/29/118073/comment-page-1/#comment-39604 PrairieHawk Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:20:42 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=118073#comment-39604 As the child of two divorces before age 18--and an outpatient in therapy at age 40--I can testify to the damage that divorce does to children. Staying together "for the sake of the children" used to be the rule--but a society that rejects any form of suffering for the sake of an easy out has forgotten the least among us. I don't even like annulments--we all saw you say "I do"--but the Church says they're there for a reason. If people knew before marriage that divorce was not an option, maybe they'd look before they leap. As the child of two divorces before age 18–and an outpatient in therapy at age 40–I can testify to the damage that divorce does to children. Staying together “for the sake of the children” used to be the rule–but a society that rejects any form of suffering for the sake of an easy out has forgotten the least among us. I don’t even like annulments–we all saw you say “I do”–but the Church says they’re there for a reason. If people knew before marriage that divorce was not an option, maybe they’d look before they leap.

]]> By: Arkanabar Ilarsadin http://catholicexchange.com/2009/04/29/118073/comment-page-1/#comment-39591 Arkanabar Ilarsadin Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:29:32 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=118073#comment-39591 I have seen McManus' point at close range. Once either spouse does anything in a court of law which leads towards divorce, the entire process runs down a steep decline on greased rails. Wrecking the marriage is almost inevitable. I have seen McManus’ point at close range. Once either spouse does anything in a court of law which leads towards divorce, the entire process runs down a steep decline on greased rails. Wrecking the marriage is almost inevitable.

]]> By: GaryT http://catholicexchange.com/2009/04/29/118073/comment-page-1/#comment-39590 GaryT Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:11:00 +0000 http://catholicexchange.com/?p=118073#comment-39590 This sounds like a wonderfully reasonable thing to do. This sounds like a wonderfully reasonable thing to do.

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