Comments on: Putting Notre Dame’s Decision in Historical Context

By: nonamincher

nonamincher — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:33:30 +0000

Simply this. The good Bishop must excercise his authority over this school for the good of all souls under his care,and The Church everywhere. This is not just a little ‘misunderstanding’ of what it means to be a Catholic school, or even a Catholic person. It would be naive to think so. President Obama isn’t going to be so moved by the University’s invitation that he will suddenly say, “Oh, now I understand– Thanks for the truth.” These ‘catholic’ administrators at Notre Dame know what they are doing. They share a political vision of church with those who have been about destroying The Church from within and without. They have already taken this school from Our Lady and The Church; a grave tragedy. It remains for The Church to recognize this unfortunate sell-out, and most importantly, to put an end to allowing anti- Catholic Church, anti- life, anti- christian politicians of the left to use Her to present an image before the world of the acceptability and even ‘righteousness’ of their views. The Church does not ‘progress’ beyond the myth of God, evolve past the myth of His unchanging Truth, and accept the pragmatic ‘reality’ of the world’s truth. This is beyond ‘tolerant’ Americanism, or Modernism and Relativism. This is an age- old battle. Study the history of The Church. Read Archbishop Chaput’s Article on “Tolerance is Not a Virtue”

By: dedleman

dedleman — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:23:29 +0000

Greetings from Philly!! Our local “Catholic” university – Saint Joseeph’s is having Chris Matthews from MSNBC as their commencement speaker in May. Another pro abortionist at a Catholic university getting an honorary degree!!

they must not want to be out done by ND!!

Pray for these people!!

By: gk

gk — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:23:33 +0000

plowshare,

The invite came from ND. Obama has everything to gain and nothing to lose.

As a selfish Catholic I gave up on ND years ago. It is sad when Catholicism is just another label like Aeropostale or Nike. Might as call ND a Jewish school too. Or maybe a private school and just leave it at that. I do hope and pray that ND comes back and actually accepts it Catholic identity. I say let it fall like the rest of weak Catholicism. Let it fall into mediocrity and luke warmness. It stands for nothing. People ought to see that and stop supporting it.

gk – God is good!

By: JimAroo

JimAroo — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:52:22 +0000

My understanding is that the local ordinary, in this case Bishop D’Arcy of Fort Wayne/South Bend has virtual unilateral power to do the following actions:

1) remove his permission to have any Mass said at Notre Dame
2) order closed any Blessed sacrament chapel on campus
3) remove the faculties of any priests at Notre Dame to preach or hear confessions
4) declare that Notre Dame is no longer a Catholic University

These powers are his and there is no appeal. It seems to me that this Bishop, who is a good man it seems, is holding all the cards – exercising even the threat of some or all of these powers would have a convincing effect on the University. The school depends on the support and donations of thousands of alumni…. who would all stop donating to a formerly Catholic school.

Go for it, Bishop. My experience tells me that all liberals like Father Jenkins
are cowards…. he will buckle.

By: irish_2171

irish_2171 — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:56:30 +0000

on another similar note…..Notre Dame receives federal $$ and/or grants. It’s nice to have the money, but there are always strings attached. Sad as it is, these liberal Catholics are trying to convince themselves that what they believe is not maintstream, but ethical and in accord with Church doctrine. Unfortunately for them, it is neither. It’s never easy to do the right thing. And some day they will have to answer for their actions, this is for certain. Hopefully down deep in their souls they will come to understand this and turn away from their liberal non-sense. I’ll do my best to bring them to the feet of Christ, but they are going to have to put their free-will (satan) aside and let Christ show them the Way.

By: fatherjo

fatherjo — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:42:53 +0000

The best explanation of Americanism I have read or heard to date, including a personal interview with Msgr. John Tracy Ellis, foremost historian of American Catholicism.

By: jackster

jackster — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:40:43 +0000

Mathew 25:45
Then he will say to them, ‘I tell you with certainty, since you didn’t do it for one of the least important of these, you didn’t do it for me.’

What you do the the unborn you do to Christ.

Jack 19:14-16
Now it was the Preparation Day for the Commencement, about noon. Obama said to the Catholics, “Here is your king!” Then they shouted, “Take him away! Take him away! Abort him!”

Obama asked them, “Should I abort your king?” The Regents of ND responded, “We have no king but Caesar!” Then Obama handed them over to be aborted, and they took the children away and butchered them.

By: DWC

DWC — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:54:12 +0000

Richard, as you probably know, and most on this site know .. this liberalization of catholic ed is nothing new. Unfortunately, hidden behind the veil of education, inclusion, tolerance and free speech has been countless examples of “catholic” schools ignoring the faith at best, corrupting at worst, to not only their students, but everyone else.

By: Richard

Richard — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:16:15 +0000

I simply cannot believe that a “Catholic” institution could do this and continue to identify as “Catholic”. To be “Catholic” requires adherence to specific beliefs and actions. We do not make it up as we go along, our faith has been in place and well defined for 2000 years. Our understanding of the basics may grow but the underlying truth remains the same.

By: plowshare

plowshare — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:14:57 +0000

It would be very interesting to know whether the initiative for this invitation came from Notre Dame or from the White House.

Whatever the answer, though, it is obvious that by accepting the invitation to Notre Dame (thereby leaving room for one less invitation to a more prestigious university), the Obama Administration is using Notre Dame as a pawn in its game to make it seem like its radical pro-abortion agenda is quite acceptable to “mainstream” Catholics and other Christians.

I doubt, for instance, that criticism of Obama’s abortion policies by the Notre Dame Administration (promised by President Jenkins, to blunt the edge of criticism) will be publicly broadcast. Instead I expect Jenkins to rationalize that a strictly private appeal is likely to have a stronger effect on Obama.