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	<title>Comments on: Connecticut Lawmakers Want to Reorganize Catholic Churches</title>
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		<title>By: JimAroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimAroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republican caucus of the Legislature (few of whose members are Catholic) unanimously opposed the bill. It was introduced and supported by Democrats (many of whom are Catholic).  We have met the enemy....and he is us!

The irony is that Bishop Lori of Hartford like many other politically liberal bishops has played footsie with these democrats for years.  And how do they reward their friend the Bishop?  the old knife in the back.  Maybe the Bishops will finally come to realize the democrats are their enemies on all issues not just life issues.  

The democrats, as we are finding out, are all socialists.  The socialist god, wherever he rules, is always a jealous god.... he will not tolerate other gods...
the bishops are dancing with Mr D when they play ball with the dems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republican caucus of the Legislature (few of whose members are Catholic) unanimously opposed the bill. It was introduced and supported by Democrats (many of whom are Catholic).  We have met the enemy&#8230;.and he is us!</p>
<p>The irony is that Bishop Lori of Hartford like many other politically liberal bishops has played footsie with these democrats for years.  And how do they reward their friend the Bishop?  the old knife in the back.  Maybe the Bishops will finally come to realize the democrats are their enemies on all issues not just life issues.  </p>
<p>The democrats, as we are finding out, are all socialists.  The socialist god, wherever he rules, is always a jealous god&#8230;. he will not tolerate other gods&#8230;<br />
the bishops are dancing with Mr D when they play ball with the dems.</p>
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		<title>By: catholicmanhood</title>
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		<dc:creator>catholicmanhood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bill is a terrible attempt to usurp the power of the church for state interests. I&#039;ve blogged about this too. Anyone in Connecticut should try to call their state senators. Even those of us outside of CT can call too and stand with the Church in CT.

catholicmanhood.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bill is a terrible attempt to usurp the power of the church for state interests. I&#8217;ve blogged about this too. Anyone in Connecticut should try to call their state senators. Even those of us outside of CT can call too and stand with the Church in CT.</p>
<p>catholicmanhood.wordpress.com</p>
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		<title>By: pgohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>pgohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, the Diocese of Bridgeport website states:

The public hearing for Proposed Bill 1098 
may have been postponed, 
but the Bill is STILL ALIVE.
Our Rally in Hartford is STILL ON 
for Wednesday, March 11, at 10:30 a.m.

Anybody in CT is still encouraged to participate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, the Diocese of Bridgeport website states:</p>
<p>The public hearing for Proposed Bill 1098<br />
may have been postponed,<br />
but the Bill is STILL ALIVE.<br />
Our Rally in Hartford is STILL ON<br />
for Wednesday, March 11, at 10:30 a.m.</p>
<p>Anybody in CT is still encouraged to participate.</p>
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		<title>By: goral</title>
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		<dc:creator>goral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in: 
The hearing scheduled for tomorrow in Room 2C has been cancelled or postponed. 
I would like to think that my threats pushed them back. 

Seriously, the bishops put out a Dear Parishioners letter on Sunday.
They made a splendid move on the chessboard. 
Would that they continue into the other issues of our squabbles.
Now to the battle in the kitchen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in:<br />
The hearing scheduled for tomorrow in Room 2C has been cancelled or postponed.<br />
I would like to think that my threats pushed them back. </p>
<p>Seriously, the bishops put out a Dear Parishioners letter on Sunday.<br />
They made a splendid move on the chessboard.<br />
Would that they continue into the other issues of our squabbles.<br />
Now to the battle in the kitchen.</p>
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		<title>By: pgohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>pgohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
Thanks for chiming back in!  To your point about trusteeship, I found a very informative article by Carl Anderson (Supreme Knight of the Knights of Columbus) that gives a very interesting look at the history of similar fights in US Catholic history.  Find it here: http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/opinion/ci_11872974

I also see radio talk show host Laura Ingraham, a former CT native, has also taken up the charge since yesterday on her website at http://lauraingraham.com .

We watch and pray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
Thanks for chiming back in!  To your point about trusteeship, I found a very informative article by Carl Anderson (Supreme Knight of the Knights of Columbus) that gives a very interesting look at the history of similar fights in US Catholic history.  Find it here: <a href="http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/opinion/ci_11872974" rel="nofollow">http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/opinion/ci_11872974</a></p>
<p>I also see radio talk show host Laura Ingraham, a former CT native, has also taken up the charge since yesterday on her website at <a href="http://lauraingraham.com" rel="nofollow">http://lauraingraham.com</a> .</p>
<p>We watch and pray.</p>
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		<title>By: steve p</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is about morality. The State wants to usurp power, it wants to exercise power and control over that which is not theirs.
The state is lying when it says it will remedy any corruption.
Our state if full of conniving, thieving politicians, so many of them church members.

I’ll take my chances with a corrupt bishop who does wrong illegally.
The state does wrong legally and above the law....

This bill is designed to hurt the church, pure and simple.&quot;

Pat,

You are right about these points. I only wished to point out how the Church was made vulnerable to this assault, which must now be resisted by a Church whose moral authority has been weakedned by a self inflicted wound. These are issues that still need to be dealt with internally in an hosnest and unflinching way, once the political battle is, hopefully, won. 

My rant is done. Sorry to have disturbed the peace, but sometimes you just have to shout a reminder and a warning.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is about morality. The State wants to usurp power, it wants to exercise power and control over that which is not theirs.<br />
The state is lying when it says it will remedy any corruption.<br />
Our state if full of conniving, thieving politicians, so many of them church members.</p>
<p>I’ll take my chances with a corrupt bishop who does wrong illegally.<br />
The state does wrong legally and above the law&#8230;.</p>
<p>This bill is designed to hurt the church, pure and simple.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pat,</p>
<p>You are right about these points. I only wished to point out how the Church was made vulnerable to this assault, which must now be resisted by a Church whose moral authority has been weakedned by a self inflicted wound. These are issues that still need to be dealt with internally in an hosnest and unflinching way, once the political battle is, hopefully, won. </p>
<p>My rant is done. Sorry to have disturbed the peace, but sometimes you just have to shout a reminder and a warning.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Hynek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Worrying news from Connecticut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth Hynek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Worrying news from Connecticut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Consider: The bill revises and changes the financial relationship between a bishop and a pastor and the lay members of a local parish. Connecticut Catholics are mobilizing to fight it. And in the process, they will be fighting fellow Catholics who have brought the bill forward in the name of fiscal responsibility and transparency. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Consider: The bill revises and changes the financial relationship between a bishop and a pastor and the lay members of a local parish. Connecticut Catholics are mobilizing to fight it. And in the process, they will be fighting fellow Catholics who have brought the bill forward in the name of fiscal responsibility and transparency. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: goral</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I wrote in my e-mails to the two traitors who are proposing this bill, it&#039;s unconstitutional, illegal and yes immoral. We all understand the first two but the reps. do not, they don&#039;t need to understand. The small catholics in this small state will always put them back in office. 
The state plunders and steals with its own legal impunity. The clergy who misappropriated the money did it illegally. I live among catholics who think the former is better than the latter.

This is about morality. The State wants to usurp power, it wants to exercise power and control over that which is not theirs. 
The state is lying when it says it will remedy any corruption.
Our state if full of conniving, thieving politicians, so many of them church members.
I&#039;ll take my chances with a corrupt bishop who does wrong illegally.
The state does wrong legally and above the law.

Squabble about this small stuff if you want to. There, there, your feelings will be all better. People with hurt feelings can&#039;t think straight and should not make important decisions at such time.
Any Catholic who wants the prince over the bishop and self-styled, state controlled religion can have it in the numerous other congregations.

This bill is designed to hurt the church, pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I wrote in my e-mails to the two traitors who are proposing this bill, it&#8217;s unconstitutional, illegal and yes immoral. We all understand the first two but the reps. do not, they don&#8217;t need to understand. The small catholics in this small state will always put them back in office.<br />
The state plunders and steals with its own legal impunity. The clergy who misappropriated the money did it illegally. I live among catholics who think the former is better than the latter.</p>
<p>This is about morality. The State wants to usurp power, it wants to exercise power and control over that which is not theirs.<br />
The state is lying when it says it will remedy any corruption.<br />
Our state if full of conniving, thieving politicians, so many of them church members.<br />
I&#8217;ll take my chances with a corrupt bishop who does wrong illegally.<br />
The state does wrong legally and above the law.</p>
<p>Squabble about this small stuff if you want to. There, there, your feelings will be all better. People with hurt feelings can&#8217;t think straight and should not make important decisions at such time.<br />
Any Catholic who wants the prince over the bishop and self-styled, state controlled religion can have it in the numerous other congregations.</p>
<p>This bill is designed to hurt the church, pure and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: steve p</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat,

I left out of my first comments this:

If Connecticut passes this bill, which I hope it does not, we will only see a reversion to another set of problems once experienced by the Church in the young USA: the Trustee run parish. Here is a short article on the subject. http://www.natcath.com/NCR_Online/archives/110102/110102f.htm

When the head and body are not working together wew are crippled. Weak body parts can undermine a clear head, but a head that abuses the body also leads to ruin.

It is a fine line and humility is required by all, but especially the part most prone to pride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>I left out of my first comments this:</p>
<p>If Connecticut passes this bill, which I hope it does not, we will only see a reversion to another set of problems once experienced by the Church in the young USA: the Trustee run parish. Here is a short article on the subject. <a href="http://www.natcath.com/NCR_Online/archives/110102/110102f.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.natcath.com/NCR_Online/archives/110102/110102f.htm</a></p>
<p>When the head and body are not working together wew are crippled. Weak body parts can undermine a clear head, but a head that abuses the body also leads to ruin.</p>
<p>It is a fine line and humility is required by all, but especially the part most prone to pride.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Jewell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Jewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it is further aimed at all churches, synagogues, mosques, etc., it would violate the First Amendment. 

Steve P has his point, but it is further complicated by the fact that two or three generations of ordinaries have not very well guided Catholics in just what Cathlics are, how we should act - in other words, failed to command provisions of valid and valuable catechesis. Hence, their lay members may lack both knowledge and fortitude to take on these statist assaults. 

Let us beg God to see to our protection, be our Rock and Refuge, until we permit Him to help us re-build His Church with more and better evangelistic catechesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it is further aimed at all churches, synagogues, mosques, etc., it would violate the First Amendment. </p>
<p>Steve P has his point, but it is further complicated by the fact that two or three generations of ordinaries have not very well guided Catholics in just what Cathlics are, how we should act &#8211; in other words, failed to command provisions of valid and valuable catechesis. Hence, their lay members may lack both knowledge and fortitude to take on these statist assaults. </p>
<p>Let us beg God to see to our protection, be our Rock and Refuge, until we permit Him to help us re-build His Church with more and better evangelistic catechesis.</p>
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