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		<title>By: jackster</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revelation 22:11
Let the wicked still act wickedly, and the filthy still be filthy. The righteous must still do right, and the holy still be holy.</description>
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Let the wicked still act wickedly, and the filthy still be filthy. The righteous must still do right, and the holy still be holy.</p>
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		<title>By: khughey</title>
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		<dc:creator>khughey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bishop Bashing&quot;?  Give me a break.

A lot of the problems we have today are enhanced simply because Good People do nothing and evil is allowed to prevail.  Pointing this out and questioning the response from our church leaders is woefully lacking these days.  It&#039;s apathy and political correctness that&#039;s strangling the &quot;Good&quot;.

On a more positive note... just read a GREAT article from Bishop Robert J. Hermann .... http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jan/09012707.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bishop Bashing&#8221;?  Give me a break.</p>
<p>A lot of the problems we have today are enhanced simply because Good People do nothing and evil is allowed to prevail.  Pointing this out and questioning the response from our church leaders is woefully lacking these days.  It&#8217;s apathy and political correctness that&#8217;s strangling the &#8220;Good&#8221;.</p>
<p>On a more positive note&#8230; just read a GREAT article from Bishop Robert J. Hermann &#8230;. <a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jan/09012707.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jan/09012707.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: saintstephen</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2009/01/26/115239/comment-page-1/#comment-37753</link>
		<dc:creator>saintstephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Catholic the laity are advised to represent credibility in their own lives before exhorting others to truth. I am adding Pope Benedict XVI&#039;s statement for all to read in the hope that Catholic will first demonstrate the values of faith in silent witness so that those values are not obscured by irrational Catholic behavior especially in the Press and in writing:

CATHOLIC JOURNALISTS: BEAR WITNESS TO THE VALUES OF FAITH

 

VATICAN CITY, 27 JAN 2009 (VIS) - Benedict XVI has sent a message to participants in the national congress of the Italian Catholic Press Union (UCSI). The congress, held last week, commemorated the institution&#039;s fiftieth anniversary.

 

  &quot;Half a century after the foundation of the UCSI many things have changed&quot;, writes the Holy Father. This change has been &quot;more visible in areas ranging from science to technology, from the economy to geopolitics; less perceptible but deeper, and more worrying, in the field of modern culture, in which respect for the dignity of the individual seems to have notably diminished, along with a sense of such values as justice, freedom and solidarity, which are so essential for the survival of a society&quot;.

 

  The work of Catholic journalists, says the Pope, &quot;anchored in a heritage of principles that have their roots in the Gospel, ... is even more arduous today. To your characteristic sense of responsibility and spirit of service, you must add an ever great professionalism, and a capacity for dialogue with the &#039;lay&#039; world in the search for shared values&quot;.

 

  After telling the journalists that &quot;you will be listened to more readily when the testimony of your own lives is coherent&quot;, the Holy Father assures them that &quot;no small number of your &#039;lay&#039; colleagues expect from you the silent witness - not only in appearance but in substance - of a life inspired by the values of faith&quot;.

 

  Benedict XVI writes of his awareness that they are committed to &quot;an ever more demanding task, one in which spaces for freedom are often under threat, and economic and political interests often take precedence over the spirit of service and the criterion of the common good.

 

  &quot;I encourage you&quot;, he adds in conclusion, &quot;not to make compromises in such important values but to have the courage of coherence, even at the cost of personal sacrifice. Serenity of conscience is a priceless quality&quot;.

MESS/.../UCSI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Catholic the laity are advised to represent credibility in their own lives before exhorting others to truth. I am adding Pope Benedict XVI&#8217;s statement for all to read in the hope that Catholic will first demonstrate the values of faith in silent witness so that those values are not obscured by irrational Catholic behavior especially in the Press and in writing:</p>
<p>CATHOLIC JOURNALISTS: BEAR WITNESS TO THE VALUES OF FAITH</p>
<p>VATICAN CITY, 27 JAN 2009 (VIS) &#8211; Benedict XVI has sent a message to participants in the national congress of the Italian Catholic Press Union (UCSI). The congress, held last week, commemorated the institution&#8217;s fiftieth anniversary.</p>
<p>  &#8220;Half a century after the foundation of the UCSI many things have changed&#8221;, writes the Holy Father. This change has been &#8220;more visible in areas ranging from science to technology, from the economy to geopolitics; less perceptible but deeper, and more worrying, in the field of modern culture, in which respect for the dignity of the individual seems to have notably diminished, along with a sense of such values as justice, freedom and solidarity, which are so essential for the survival of a society&#8221;.</p>
<p>  The work of Catholic journalists, says the Pope, &#8220;anchored in a heritage of principles that have their roots in the Gospel, &#8230; is even more arduous today. To your characteristic sense of responsibility and spirit of service, you must add an ever great professionalism, and a capacity for dialogue with the &#8216;lay&#8217; world in the search for shared values&#8221;.</p>
<p>  After telling the journalists that &#8220;you will be listened to more readily when the testimony of your own lives is coherent&#8221;, the Holy Father assures them that &#8220;no small number of your &#8216;lay&#8217; colleagues expect from you the silent witness &#8211; not only in appearance but in substance &#8211; of a life inspired by the values of faith&#8221;.</p>
<p>  Benedict XVI writes of his awareness that they are committed to &#8220;an ever more demanding task, one in which spaces for freedom are often under threat, and economic and political interests often take precedence over the spirit of service and the criterion of the common good.</p>
<p>  &#8220;I encourage you&#8221;, he adds in conclusion, &#8220;not to make compromises in such important values but to have the courage of coherence, even at the cost of personal sacrifice. Serenity of conscience is a priceless quality&#8221;.</p>
<p>MESS/&#8230;/UCSI</p>
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		<title>By: elkabrikir</title>
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		<dc:creator>elkabrikir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think using the term &quot;bishop bashing&quot; is inflammatory.  I think it is prudent and an act of charity to hold bishops accountable to the grace they have received in Holy Orders.  With charity, fraternal correction is appropriate when needed.  So, is mercy.

History tells us that about 90% of the bishops supported the Arian Heresy in the 4th century!  Great Saints, like St Athanasius were exiled for a time.  However, Athanasius became a Saint by holding firm to the truth and vociferously defending the divinity of Christ.  Because of Saints like him, we have a Trinitarian Christian faith as professed in the Nicene Creed.

We are in danger of becoming a Church lead by bishops who follow the Gnostic Heresy, in my opinion.  They would separate the soul from the body and allow evil to be done by/to the body without it affecting the soul.  Pope John Paul II refuted this heresy in Theology of the Body.  He is the prototype of a bishop and Saint for our times, as he imitated Christ in all things.  

We must recognize that word choice reveals the thoughts of the man.  Heresy is insidious.  No bishop would willfully succumb.  However, without fraternal correction infused with love, bishops may be blinded to the darkness before them.

Thanks Mary, for this article which, hopefully, helps us see ourselves as we are too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think using the term &#8220;bishop bashing&#8221; is inflammatory.  I think it is prudent and an act of charity to hold bishops accountable to the grace they have received in Holy Orders.  With charity, fraternal correction is appropriate when needed.  So, is mercy.</p>
<p>History tells us that about 90% of the bishops supported the Arian Heresy in the 4th century!  Great Saints, like St Athanasius were exiled for a time.  However, Athanasius became a Saint by holding firm to the truth and vociferously defending the divinity of Christ.  Because of Saints like him, we have a Trinitarian Christian faith as professed in the Nicene Creed.</p>
<p>We are in danger of becoming a Church lead by bishops who follow the Gnostic Heresy, in my opinion.  They would separate the soul from the body and allow evil to be done by/to the body without it affecting the soul.  Pope John Paul II refuted this heresy in Theology of the Body.  He is the prototype of a bishop and Saint for our times, as he imitated Christ in all things.  </p>
<p>We must recognize that word choice reveals the thoughts of the man.  Heresy is insidious.  No bishop would willfully succumb.  However, without fraternal correction infused with love, bishops may be blinded to the darkness before them.</p>
<p>Thanks Mary, for this article which, hopefully, helps us see ourselves as we are too.</p>
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		<title>By: Daughter of the King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daughter of the King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe some of the bishops did try to do something that the people are unaware of and their efforts failed.  Maybe they prayed and fasted and all and still the result was not what they hoped for.  Maybe their final hope was in the Lord and they were &#039;disappointed&#039; with what happened.    

As for it being different, from the way folks on this site talk about the bishops and how much they&#039;re falling down on the job and all I guess I didn&#039;t really see any difference in expectations.  Has the USCCB really given us that much hope that they&#039;d have more backbone?  From the sounds of most of the comments, no!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some of the bishops did try to do something that the people are unaware of and their efforts failed.  Maybe they prayed and fasted and all and still the result was not what they hoped for.  Maybe their final hope was in the Lord and they were &#8216;disappointed&#8217; with what happened.    </p>
<p>As for it being different, from the way folks on this site talk about the bishops and how much they&#8217;re falling down on the job and all I guess I didn&#8217;t really see any difference in expectations.  Has the USCCB really given us that much hope that they&#8217;d have more backbone?  From the sounds of most of the comments, no!</p>
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		<title>By: bluestorm</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluestorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please stop the Bishop bashing. Before all, our Bishops need our prayers and our support, not further division by us being upset at them and disrespecting them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stop the Bishop bashing. Before all, our Bishops need our prayers and our support, not further division by us being upset at them and disrespecting them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Roeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Roeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, Mary.

The difference is huge.  I expect the pro-abortion politician to act as he promised he would and I expect the bishops to preach the Gospel in season and out.

I am outraged at the President.  

I am disappointed in the bishops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Mary.</p>
<p>The difference is huge.  I expect the pro-abortion politician to act as he promised he would and I expect the bishops to preach the Gospel in season and out.</p>
<p>I am outraged at the President.  </p>
<p>I am disappointed in the bishops.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kochan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kochan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No it is the opposite.  We HAD NO reason to expect that Obama would do other than what he did.  We DO HAVE good reason to expect clarity in speaking the truth by our bishops. (Not to mention that we have reason to expect them to use the English language correctly.) To stop expecting good things from our bishops -- including inspired and inspiring leadership -- would be to stop expecting God to come through on His promises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it is the opposite.  We HAD NO reason to expect that Obama would do other than what he did.  We DO HAVE good reason to expect clarity in speaking the truth by our bishops. (Not to mention that we have reason to expect them to use the English language correctly.) To stop expecting good things from our bishops &#8212; including inspired and inspiring leadership &#8212; would be to stop expecting God to come through on His promises.</p>
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		<title>By: Daughter of the King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daughter of the King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it the same thing, Mary, the bishops being disappointed with the President for something that was totally expected and you disappointed with the Bishops when their actions are expected too?  At least we&#039;re all living up to others&#039; expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it the same thing, Mary, the bishops being disappointed with the President for something that was totally expected and you disappointed with the Bishops when their actions are expected too?  At least we&#8217;re all living up to others&#8217; expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: elkabrikir</title>
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		<dc:creator>elkabrikir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some decent verbiage (as opposed to verbage)

A senior Vatican official on Saturday attacked US President Barack Obama for &quot;arrogance&quot; for overturning a ban on state funding for family-planning groups that carry out or facilitate abortions overseas.
It is &quot;the arrogance of someone who believes they are right, in signing a decree which will open the door to abortion and thus to the destruction of human life,&quot; Archbishop Rino Fisichella was quoted as saying by the Corriere della Sera daily.

Fisichella is president of the Pontifical Academy for Life, one of a number of so-called pontifical academies which are formed by or under the direction of the Holy See.

&quot;What is important is to know how to listen... without locking oneself into ideological visions with the arrogance of a person who, having the power, thinks they can decide on life and death,&quot; he added.

Obama signed the executive order cancelling the eight-year-old restrictions on Friday, the third full day of his presidency.

The so-called &quot;global gag rule&quot; cut off US funding to overseas family planning clinics which provide any abortion services whatsoever, from the operation itself to counselling, referrals or post-abortion services.

&quot;If this is one of the first acts of President Obama, with all due respect, it seems to me that the path towards disappointment will have been very short,&quot; Fisichella said.

&quot;I do not believe that those who voted for him took into consideration ethical themes, which were astutely left aside during the election debate. The majority of the American population does not take the same position as the president and his team,&quot; he added.

The order won Obama praise from Democratic lawmakers, family planning and women&#039;s rights groups but drew angry condemnation from pro-life organisations and Republicans.

More than 250 health and human rights organisations from around the world sent Obama a letter, thanking him for ending a policy &quot;which has contributed to the deaths and injuries of countless women and girls.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some decent verbiage (as opposed to verbage)</p>
<p>A senior Vatican official on Saturday attacked US President Barack Obama for &#8220;arrogance&#8221; for overturning a ban on state funding for family-planning groups that carry out or facilitate abortions overseas.<br />
It is &#8220;the arrogance of someone who believes they are right, in signing a decree which will open the door to abortion and thus to the destruction of human life,&#8221; Archbishop Rino Fisichella was quoted as saying by the Corriere della Sera daily.</p>
<p>Fisichella is president of the Pontifical Academy for Life, one of a number of so-called pontifical academies which are formed by or under the direction of the Holy See.</p>
<p>&#8220;What is important is to know how to listen&#8230; without locking oneself into ideological visions with the arrogance of a person who, having the power, thinks they can decide on life and death,&#8221; he added.</p>
<p>Obama signed the executive order cancelling the eight-year-old restrictions on Friday, the third full day of his presidency.</p>
<p>The so-called &#8220;global gag rule&#8221; cut off US funding to overseas family planning clinics which provide any abortion services whatsoever, from the operation itself to counselling, referrals or post-abortion services.</p>
<p>&#8220;If this is one of the first acts of President Obama, with all due respect, it seems to me that the path towards disappointment will have been very short,&#8221; Fisichella said.</p>
<p>&#8220;I do not believe that those who voted for him took into consideration ethical themes, which were astutely left aside during the election debate. The majority of the American population does not take the same position as the president and his team,&#8221; he added.</p>
<p>The order won Obama praise from Democratic lawmakers, family planning and women&#8217;s rights groups but drew angry condemnation from pro-life organisations and Republicans.</p>
<p>More than 250 health and human rights organisations from around the world sent Obama a letter, thanking him for ending a policy &#8220;which has contributed to the deaths and injuries of countless women and girls.&#8221;</p>
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