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	<title>Comments on: Just be Good for Goodness Sake?</title>
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		<title>By: plisto</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/11/24/114490/comment-page-1/#comment-36354</link>
		<dc:creator>plisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I believe that atheism leads the society to its destruction, little by little, as has been shown already in the history, I think it is quite exaggerating to say that individual atheists couldn&#039;t be as good as some catholics, for example. I personally know many examples.  Many Christians seem to take it for granted, that they have access to God&#039;s grace, which, of course is true. But that shouldn&#039;t lead us (as christians) to think, that because of this freely given grace we can act badly and still be forgiven.
That is hypocrisy. Many christians nowadays are to be blamed for that. 

God&#039;s  grace is a marvelous thing. We as Catholic christians do not own it. It is a gift, as is the Church. The gift is for everyone to receive, and some people though not showing it outwardly, are better &quot;christians&quot; than many church-goers, who also claim to pray daily. We should never judge any individual, but pray and be kind, show God not by our words but by our example (though words might be important in some cases, of course).

By what I&#039;ve witnessed, I think goodness for goodness&#039; sake is possible. -But faith in God gives more comfort to those persons wanting to be good. 

Peace to everybody!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I believe that atheism leads the society to its destruction, little by little, as has been shown already in the history, I think it is quite exaggerating to say that individual atheists couldn&#8217;t be as good as some catholics, for example. I personally know many examples.  Many Christians seem to take it for granted, that they have access to God&#8217;s grace, which, of course is true. But that shouldn&#8217;t lead us (as christians) to think, that because of this freely given grace we can act badly and still be forgiven.<br />
That is hypocrisy. Many christians nowadays are to be blamed for that. </p>
<p>God&#8217;s  grace is a marvelous thing. We as Catholic christians do not own it. It is a gift, as is the Church. The gift is for everyone to receive, and some people though not showing it outwardly, are better &#8220;christians&#8221; than many church-goers, who also claim to pray daily. We should never judge any individual, but pray and be kind, show God not by our words but by our example (though words might be important in some cases, of course).</p>
<p>By what I&#8217;ve witnessed, I think goodness for goodness&#8217; sake is possible. -But faith in God gives more comfort to those persons wanting to be good. </p>
<p>Peace to everybody!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/11/24/114490/comment-page-1/#comment-36334</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we hear more and more about &quot;Gay Rights&quot; and the &quot;Right to Abortion&quot;, I can&#039;t help but remember the words of, I believe it was Mr. Donovan on Catholic Radio&#039;s show &quot;Open Line&quot;, that government does not exist to give people rights, but to protect the rights given to us by God. If we are to &quot;be good for goodness sake&quot; as the humanists would have it, would anybody really do it? And if they did, why would they? Just for goodness sake? It&#039;s a circular argument that leaves one with no direction and no hope.  Only God can give meaning to our every action. 
And as for the recent comment of Barack Obama that we should just go ahead and leagalize abortion permanently because it&#039;s already been a law for so long would be funny if it weren&#039;t so sad.  As a person of half black heritage, he of ALL people should remember that slavery of African-Americans was legal for a very long time in this country.  Proving yet again that just because something is legal doesn&#039;t make it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we hear more and more about &#8220;Gay Rights&#8221; and the &#8220;Right to Abortion&#8221;, I can&#8217;t help but remember the words of, I believe it was Mr. Donovan on Catholic Radio&#8217;s show &#8220;Open Line&#8221;, that government does not exist to give people rights, but to protect the rights given to us by God. If we are to &#8220;be good for goodness sake&#8221; as the humanists would have it, would anybody really do it? And if they did, why would they? Just for goodness sake? It&#8217;s a circular argument that leaves one with no direction and no hope.  Only God can give meaning to our every action.<br />
And as for the recent comment of Barack Obama that we should just go ahead and leagalize abortion permanently because it&#8217;s already been a law for so long would be funny if it weren&#8217;t so sad.  As a person of half black heritage, he of ALL people should remember that slavery of African-Americans was legal for a very long time in this country.  Proving yet again that just because something is legal doesn&#8217;t make it right.</p>
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		<title>By: jackster</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atheists once again unwittingly give glory to God.

These ads shine a light on the fact that the demand to love and practice goodness is alive within all creatures. They confirm that each of us has infused knowledge of truth.

Those of us who accept God&#039;s gifts of scripture and tradition, given by his wisdom and mercy to reveal the details of righteous behavior are better able to recognize lies, and avoid the errant behaviors engendered by the confusion born of those lies.

These atheists want us to reject God&#039;s helpful gifts and do it the hard way. In doing so they have unwittingly affirmed everyone&#039;s culpability for adherence to truth.

Paul does it again...
Romans 1:19-21
For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God himself has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible attributes—his eternal power and divine nature—have been understood and observed by what he made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him. Instead, their thoughts turned to worthless things, and their senseless hearts were darkened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atheists once again unwittingly give glory to God.</p>
<p>These ads shine a light on the fact that the demand to love and practice goodness is alive within all creatures. They confirm that each of us has infused knowledge of truth.</p>
<p>Those of us who accept God&#8217;s gifts of scripture and tradition, given by his wisdom and mercy to reveal the details of righteous behavior are better able to recognize lies, and avoid the errant behaviors engendered by the confusion born of those lies.</p>
<p>These atheists want us to reject God&#8217;s helpful gifts and do it the hard way. In doing so they have unwittingly affirmed everyone&#8217;s culpability for adherence to truth.</p>
<p>Paul does it again&#8230;<br />
Romans 1:19-21<br />
For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God himself has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible attributes—his eternal power and divine nature—have been understood and observed by what he made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him. Instead, their thoughts turned to worthless things, and their senseless hearts were darkened.</p>
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		<title>By: yblegen</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/11/24/114490/comment-page-1/#comment-36328</link>
		<dc:creator>yblegen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Civilization without God will have to create a new vocabulary. They obviously do not know that he word &quot;good: comes from old English meaning Gōd.

I know, I know that is not their intent.  Nevertheless, they speak His Name without even realizing it. Reading through Book of Wisdom, I find myself gasping at the similarities to our own time although I know it is believed to have been written around the first century B.C.   

Also, in &quot;10 Books That Screwed Up the World and 5 Others that Didn&#039;t Help&quot; by Benjamin Wiker, Ph.D., it&#039;s amazing to see where the ideas in this article originated.  Without realizing it, we all think a certain way without even realizing that our thoughts have come from ideas generated by philosophers like Machiavelli and Hobbes who lived five hundred years ago. One learns that their  main objective was to remove God from our lives which then removes any concept of good and evil which removes sin. 

The result is everything that Mrs. Armstrong wrote about. Thank you so much for laying out so clearly the result of ideas accepted that reject God, Our Father, His Son, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civilization without God will have to create a new vocabulary. They obviously do not know that he word &#8220;good: comes from old English meaning Gōd.</p>
<p>I know, I know that is not their intent.  Nevertheless, they speak His Name without even realizing it. Reading through Book of Wisdom, I find myself gasping at the similarities to our own time although I know it is believed to have been written around the first century B.C.   </p>
<p>Also, in &#8220;10 Books That Screwed Up the World and 5 Others that Didn&#8217;t Help&#8221; by Benjamin Wiker, Ph.D., it&#8217;s amazing to see where the ideas in this article originated.  Without realizing it, we all think a certain way without even realizing that our thoughts have come from ideas generated by philosophers like Machiavelli and Hobbes who lived five hundred years ago. One learns that their  main objective was to remove God from our lives which then removes any concept of good and evil which removes sin. </p>
<p>The result is everything that Mrs. Armstrong wrote about. Thank you so much for laying out so clearly the result of ideas accepted that reject God, Our Father, His Son, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds so seductive doesn&#039;t it, to be &quot;good for goodness sake&quot;?  Yeah why can&#039;t we all be that way?  The world would be so much better off, much more highly evolved and all that.  Look at the societies though where atheism is the state &quot;religion&quot;...the former Soviet Union, China, with its one child policy, the Pol Pot regime etc...do any of us really want to live there?  Is there true freedom there?  No, true freedom, we know as Catholics is surrending our will to the will of God and doing what He wants for us.

Great article.  We live in scary times, but living in a world without God, or in a society that says there is no God, well, we already knows what happens to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds so seductive doesn&#8217;t it, to be &#8220;good for goodness sake&#8221;?  Yeah why can&#8217;t we all be that way?  The world would be so much better off, much more highly evolved and all that.  Look at the societies though where atheism is the state &#8220;religion&#8221;&#8230;the former Soviet Union, China, with its one child policy, the Pol Pot regime etc&#8230;do any of us really want to live there?  Is there true freedom there?  No, true freedom, we know as Catholics is surrending our will to the will of God and doing what He wants for us.</p>
<p>Great article.  We live in scary times, but living in a world without God, or in a society that says there is no God, well, we already knows what happens to it.</p>
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		<title>By: madhattertea</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/11/24/114490/comment-page-1/#comment-36325</link>
		<dc:creator>madhattertea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hitler thought he was good.

this was a very excellent article.
madeline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hitler thought he was good.</p>
<p>this was a very excellent article.<br />
madeline</p>
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