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		<title>By: elkabrikir</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/11/19/114475/comment-page-1/#comment-36200</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, a holy priest from my diocese, Fr Roux, wrote in this week&#039;s Charlotte Diocese newspaper that the main thing we can do is

 be holy as our heavenly father is holy.

Yes the actions we are doing are important, Joan&#039;s comments not-withstanding.  But he said we need to sanctify the small patch of the world God has given us to tend.

That is the conclusion I myself have made.  And I&#039;m sure many CE readers concur.

Therefore, I&#039;ve found that In Conversation With God, a daily meditation guide tied to the lectionary, has helped me progress spiritually over the 7 years I&#039;ve prayed it.  Of course frequenting the sacraments is a given.

Abortion is an individual sin with many coconspirators.  Therefore, people must be educated and hearts must be softened.

time for night prayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, a holy priest from my diocese, Fr Roux, wrote in this week&#8217;s Charlotte Diocese newspaper that the main thing we can do is</p>
<p> be holy as our heavenly father is holy.</p>
<p>Yes the actions we are doing are important, Joan&#8217;s comments not-withstanding.  But he said we need to sanctify the small patch of the world God has given us to tend.</p>
<p>That is the conclusion I myself have made.  And I&#8217;m sure many CE readers concur.</p>
<p>Therefore, I&#8217;ve found that In Conversation With God, a daily meditation guide tied to the lectionary, has helped me progress spiritually over the 7 years I&#8217;ve prayed it.  Of course frequenting the sacraments is a given.</p>
<p>Abortion is an individual sin with many coconspirators.  Therefore, people must be educated and hearts must be softened.</p>
<p>time for night prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kochan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kochan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you suggest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you suggest?</p>
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		<title>By: joanspage</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I retract my &quot;get over it;&quot; it was not the best choice of words. 

I know abortion is a grave issue but people vote on eoomomics. That&#039;s why he won.

People are hurting everywhere. I think we must admit this and then ask how we can make life issues more relevant to more people during this time.

Attacking Obnama is not the answer. It just doesn&#039;t work.

I read articles here frequently and I get frustrated hearing lines that didn&#039;t work before the election being recylced. We are preaching to the choir.

Now, let me be clear. We can keep our core beliefs but the way we present them must change if we want to change oue culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I retract my &#8220;get over it;&#8221; it was not the best choice of words. </p>
<p>I know abortion is a grave issue but people vote on eoomomics. That&#8217;s why he won.</p>
<p>People are hurting everywhere. I think we must admit this and then ask how we can make life issues more relevant to more people during this time.</p>
<p>Attacking Obnama is not the answer. It just doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I read articles here frequently and I get frustrated hearing lines that didn&#8217;t work before the election being recylced. We are preaching to the choir.</p>
<p>Now, let me be clear. We can keep our core beliefs but the way we present them must change if we want to change oue culture.</p>
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		<title>By: bkeebler</title>
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		<dc:creator>bkeebler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your article. I agree, we have made our choice (or the choice was made for us) but we who know the Truth belong to Christ.

Joshua 24: 14-28

&quot;Alas, we all need to get on our knees and repent from the very depths of our hearts for the plague that we have just invited onto our beloved nation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your article. I agree, we have made our choice (or the choice was made for us) but we who know the Truth belong to Christ.</p>
<p>Joshua 24: 14-28</p>
<p>&#8220;Alas, we all need to get on our knees and repent from the very depths of our hearts for the plague that we have just invited onto our beloved nation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kochan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kochan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would much prefer she stay and bring many of her friends.  I can&#039;t imagine anything more salutary for them online than frequent association with you good people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would much prefer she stay and bring many of her friends.  I can&#8217;t imagine anything more salutary for them online than frequent association with you good people.</p>
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		<title>By: reachrai</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments like Joan&#039;s in support of presiden-elect barack Obama puzzle me.
She seems to be acted upon by a &#039;spirit&#039;(a sensus fidei or lack thereof) that is hardly what one would expect from  people in tune with this website&#039;s perspective.
Rather arguing with her, please accept the possibility that rather than trying to rebut a clearly secularist mentality (which patently prevents Joan from even suspecting what Fr. Thomas Euteneuer is really talking about) it would be expedient to advise Joan to chose a more consonant environment where to express her  thoughts.Not a matter of censorship! Anybody would  find odd that a defense of a  catholic belief be proposed within an atheist forum   WHILE THAT PERSON STILL PRETENDING TO BE A LEGITIMATE ATHEIST</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments like Joan&#8217;s in support of presiden-elect barack Obama puzzle me.<br />
She seems to be acted upon by a &#8216;spirit&#8217;(a sensus fidei or lack thereof) that is hardly what one would expect from  people in tune with this website&#8217;s perspective.<br />
Rather arguing with her, please accept the possibility that rather than trying to rebut a clearly secularist mentality (which patently prevents Joan from even suspecting what Fr. Thomas Euteneuer is really talking about) it would be expedient to advise Joan to chose a more consonant environment where to express her  thoughts.Not a matter of censorship! Anybody would  find odd that a defense of a  catholic belief be proposed within an atheist forum   WHILE THAT PERSON STILL PRETENDING TO BE A LEGITIMATE ATHEIST</p>
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		<title>By: elkabrikir</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To stanley in England:

From what I know about England, and the way morality and the church are headed there and in the rest of Europe, Americans should do exactly the opposite of those of you residing across the pond.  Actually, in a few more years it won&#039;t be a problem deciding whether or not to listen to you: historic Englishmen, Germans, Italians, or French won&#039;t exist.  You will have contracepted, sterilized, an aborted yourselves into extinction.  Relativism as Religion (a good book, by the way) is winning and your comments are proof of it. 

Obama has a clear track record from which he is not deviating even as he rehires Clinton hacks.

And, by the way, England has a sordid history of slave trading itself.  Would you have voted for  John Hawkyns (or &quot;Hawkins,&quot; as his name is often transcribed), the first master of the English slave trade?

&quot;During the 17th century, England established itself as the greatest slave-trading nation in the world.  He was also a product of a universal culture that considered slaughter and slavery just a sidenote to progress and civilization. When Hazlewood (author of The Queen&#039;s slave trader) writes of the Spanish colonization of the Carribean, one must flinch at the visuals he offers; firsthand accounts of indiscriminate savagery as soldiers killed &quot;small children, old men, pregnant women, and even women who had just given birth.&quot; According to one report, &quot;they even laid wagers on whether they could manage to slice a man in two at a stroke, or cut an individual&#039;s head from his body, or disembowel him with a single blow of their axes,&quot; even as they took infants and &quot;dashed them headlong against the rocks.&quot; It is against this backdrop, perhaps, that one begins to see the glimmer of such men as Hawkyns, who regarded the buying and selling of other human beings as nothing more than a route to riches.&quot;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/01/06/121743.php

Father Eutenaur speaks the truth with prophetic clarity.  Thank you CE for bringing his thoughts and Catholic truth to the world of cyberspace.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To stanley in England:</p>
<p>From what I know about England, and the way morality and the church are headed there and in the rest of Europe, Americans should do exactly the opposite of those of you residing across the pond.  Actually, in a few more years it won&#8217;t be a problem deciding whether or not to listen to you: historic Englishmen, Germans, Italians, or French won&#8217;t exist.  You will have contracepted, sterilized, an aborted yourselves into extinction.  Relativism as Religion (a good book, by the way) is winning and your comments are proof of it. </p>
<p>Obama has a clear track record from which he is not deviating even as he rehires Clinton hacks.</p>
<p>And, by the way, England has a sordid history of slave trading itself.  Would you have voted for  John Hawkyns (or &#8220;Hawkins,&#8221; as his name is often transcribed), the first master of the English slave trade?</p>
<p>&#8220;During the 17th century, England established itself as the greatest slave-trading nation in the world.  He was also a product of a universal culture that considered slaughter and slavery just a sidenote to progress and civilization. When Hazlewood (author of The Queen&#8217;s slave trader) writes of the Spanish colonization of the Carribean, one must flinch at the visuals he offers; firsthand accounts of indiscriminate savagery as soldiers killed &#8220;small children, old men, pregnant women, and even women who had just given birth.&#8221; According to one report, &#8220;they even laid wagers on whether they could manage to slice a man in two at a stroke, or cut an individual&#8217;s head from his body, or disembowel him with a single blow of their axes,&#8221; even as they took infants and &#8220;dashed them headlong against the rocks.&#8221; It is against this backdrop, perhaps, that one begins to see the glimmer of such men as Hawkyns, who regarded the buying and selling of other human beings as nothing more than a route to riches.&#8221;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/01/06/121743.php</p>
<p>Father Eutenaur speaks the truth with prophetic clarity.  Thank you CE for bringing his thoughts and Catholic truth to the world of cyberspace.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Jewell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Jewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Illinoisan - known Obama for Illinois-legislative years before most of you had heard of him; of the One B.O., two bona fide actions:

1. THE voice behind not giving medical help to surviving babes of abortion

2. Voting &#039;present&#039; so as to avoid encumbering his future runs for office with actually having taken positions where he should have - hence, effective &#039;acts of ommission&#039; for his self-service.

Obama - to one brighter, better qualified black leader, &#039;the Ego and the Mouth&#039; - is likely to be a big problem for truth-seeking, right-thinking people. However, and worse, there are many similar ilk in the U.S. legislative and judicial branches already to help him along. 

So, yeah, I pray for the whole ilk - and their loyal opposition. More, I pray for us - we&#039;ll need the prayers as much or more than they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Illinoisan &#8211; known Obama for Illinois-legislative years before most of you had heard of him; of the One B.O., two bona fide actions:</p>
<p>1. THE voice behind not giving medical help to surviving babes of abortion</p>
<p>2. Voting &#8216;present&#8217; so as to avoid encumbering his future runs for office with actually having taken positions where he should have &#8211; hence, effective &#8216;acts of ommission&#8217; for his self-service.</p>
<p>Obama &#8211; to one brighter, better qualified black leader, &#8216;the Ego and the Mouth&#8217; &#8211; is likely to be a big problem for truth-seeking, right-thinking people. However, and worse, there are many similar ilk in the U.S. legislative and judicial branches already to help him along. </p>
<p>So, yeah, I pray for the whole ilk &#8211; and their loyal opposition. More, I pray for us &#8211; we&#8217;ll need the prayers as much or more than they do.</p>
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		<title>By: jackster</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US under Obama will probably be a lot like Canada under Paul Martin. During Martin&#039;s tenure as Prime Minister, he ramrodded gay marriage through parliament and ordered all Liberals to vote in favor of it. Likewise in the Canadian Senate. He claimed to be a Catholic all the while, and his Bishop remained silent.

The wombs of Canadian women are the most dangerous places for fetuses to reside in the entire world. There are no restrictions whatsoever on abortion here, and the Government pays for the killings. We have gay marriage, and gay adoption nationwide. We have Human Rights Commissions that have a 100% conviction rate against any complaint of Christian teaching in the public square. Our medical system is under control of the ruling class, and respect for freedom of conscience comes under frequent attack.

The big difference though, is that Canada is a bit player on the world stage, and the US is the lead dog. Copycat nations missed the victories the culture of death stole in Canada, but the US/Obama example will become the &quot;standard&quot; for them.

But don&#039;t lose hope. Although our inalienable human rights and freedoms are no longer recognized by decree from the ruling class, and killing, and perversion are enshrined as rights, those of us who choose to live in Christ&#039;s truth are still able to do so in relative peace.

The truth is that the people of this nation, and those of the USA are predominately men and women of good will. Regardless of what vocal minorities holler, or some beaurocrats decree, we still manage to get along.

Do not forget that the seed of salvation was sown in a much more hostile environment than what we have here today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US under Obama will probably be a lot like Canada under Paul Martin. During Martin&#8217;s tenure as Prime Minister, he ramrodded gay marriage through parliament and ordered all Liberals to vote in favor of it. Likewise in the Canadian Senate. He claimed to be a Catholic all the while, and his Bishop remained silent.</p>
<p>The wombs of Canadian women are the most dangerous places for fetuses to reside in the entire world. There are no restrictions whatsoever on abortion here, and the Government pays for the killings. We have gay marriage, and gay adoption nationwide. We have Human Rights Commissions that have a 100% conviction rate against any complaint of Christian teaching in the public square. Our medical system is under control of the ruling class, and respect for freedom of conscience comes under frequent attack.</p>
<p>The big difference though, is that Canada is a bit player on the world stage, and the US is the lead dog. Copycat nations missed the victories the culture of death stole in Canada, but the US/Obama example will become the &#8220;standard&#8221; for them.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t lose hope. Although our inalienable human rights and freedoms are no longer recognized by decree from the ruling class, and killing, and perversion are enshrined as rights, those of us who choose to live in Christ&#8217;s truth are still able to do so in relative peace.</p>
<p>The truth is that the people of this nation, and those of the USA are predominately men and women of good will. Regardless of what vocal minorities holler, or some beaurocrats decree, we still manage to get along.</p>
<p>Do not forget that the seed of salvation was sown in a much more hostile environment than what we have here today.</p>
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		<title>By: CherylDickow</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stanley90,

As good Catholics I am sure we are all praying for the the President-Elect but can&#039;t imagine how anyone could raise a great Alleujah knowing how this man stands on the abortion issue.  The most liberal ever, telling Planned Parenthood he will turn back the clock on any pro-life gains through a quick signature on a piece of paper. First thing on his agenda, he says. And Pelosi and Reid right hehind him.  So much for checks and balances.

Maybe we should consider the great ways in which women have suffered, and sadly still do suffer.  Whether it was years ago when we could not vote or today the ways in which women are objectified.  How about the untold prejudices against women in the workplace or unfair wages. Even today the secular world does a fine job of pitting women against one another.  Women have suffered greatly throughout the ages but continue to diligently tend to their lives.  

So, how wonderful would it have been with a first-ever woman vice president who was ALSO PRO-LIFE.  

Now there&#039;s something to raise a great Alleujah to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stanley90,</p>
<p>As good Catholics I am sure we are all praying for the the President-Elect but can&#8217;t imagine how anyone could raise a great Alleujah knowing how this man stands on the abortion issue.  The most liberal ever, telling Planned Parenthood he will turn back the clock on any pro-life gains through a quick signature on a piece of paper. First thing on his agenda, he says. And Pelosi and Reid right hehind him.  So much for checks and balances.</p>
<p>Maybe we should consider the great ways in which women have suffered, and sadly still do suffer.  Whether it was years ago when we could not vote or today the ways in which women are objectified.  How about the untold prejudices against women in the workplace or unfair wages. Even today the secular world does a fine job of pitting women against one another.  Women have suffered greatly throughout the ages but continue to diligently tend to their lives.  </p>
<p>So, how wonderful would it have been with a first-ever woman vice president who was ALSO PRO-LIFE.  </p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s something to raise a great Alleujah to!</p>
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