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		<title>By: gk</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/10/22/113789/comment-page-1/#comment-35422</link>
		<dc:creator>gk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom!  True Freedom!

Just like Braveheart but infintely more true and more free!

God is good!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom!  True Freedom!</p>
<p>Just like Braveheart but infintely more true and more free!</p>
<p>God is good!!!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ponceo is a rather disturbing reality. It is probably happening in the U.S. behind closed doors. 

America is quite a phenomenon. Think of the quick history. Settlers came seeking to wrest a life from this rich, untapped wilderness. In the midst of religious and social expansion, there were atrocities brought upon the African tribesman, borne over on European and New England slave ships, and these atrocities were added to by select southern masters who had gotten rich quick on their huge tracts of land and who, without mastery, split up families and denied education or generational progress. Greedy frontiersmen and executive authority drove peaceful Indians off of their lands (I am thinking especially of the Cherokee). This country revolted against England because of unfair taxes; then, it was set upon the course of centralized power after the bloodshed of the War Between the States. The unmeasured aggression of the Union was based upon a pseudo-religious notion of indivisibility. Now, we enjoy more taxes than our ancestors and founding fathers would have dared to dream, and by being tied to the dollar, we are tied to market-tycoons that can manipulate us and our government. We have so many of our civil liberties intact, and yet we feel the shadow of something dreadful (reminding me of middle-earth or Tolkien&#039;s trilogy). Our families have been suffering as we enjoy so many material blessings, albeit upon the string of credit woven tight around the globe. What lies in wait for us? We look to Mary, who is the patron of our land, still rich in its soil. Surely, she will teach us purity, so that we may become a country full of freedom and virtue, a nation of christian values. As catholics, we must walk through the age of doubt and fear without doubt and fear, recognizing the innate dignity of every single person, created in the image of God. We must pass on the legacy of Christ and his Church, and a nation that is just will rise from the ash-heap of our day. I am pessimistic, but full of hope. And I have optimism on one count. There really are a lot of good people in America yet. There is a word present in the American vocabulary - revival. This time, instead of setting up tents or preaching fiery sermons, let us allow the Queen of Heaven to order it aright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ponceo is a rather disturbing reality. It is probably happening in the U.S. behind closed doors. </p>
<p>America is quite a phenomenon. Think of the quick history. Settlers came seeking to wrest a life from this rich, untapped wilderness. In the midst of religious and social expansion, there were atrocities brought upon the African tribesman, borne over on European and New England slave ships, and these atrocities were added to by select southern masters who had gotten rich quick on their huge tracts of land and who, without mastery, split up families and denied education or generational progress. Greedy frontiersmen and executive authority drove peaceful Indians off of their lands (I am thinking especially of the Cherokee). This country revolted against England because of unfair taxes; then, it was set upon the course of centralized power after the bloodshed of the War Between the States. The unmeasured aggression of the Union was based upon a pseudo-religious notion of indivisibility. Now, we enjoy more taxes than our ancestors and founding fathers would have dared to dream, and by being tied to the dollar, we are tied to market-tycoons that can manipulate us and our government. We have so many of our civil liberties intact, and yet we feel the shadow of something dreadful (reminding me of middle-earth or Tolkien&#8217;s trilogy). Our families have been suffering as we enjoy so many material blessings, albeit upon the string of credit woven tight around the globe. What lies in wait for us? We look to Mary, who is the patron of our land, still rich in its soil. Surely, she will teach us purity, so that we may become a country full of freedom and virtue, a nation of christian values. As catholics, we must walk through the age of doubt and fear without doubt and fear, recognizing the innate dignity of every single person, created in the image of God. We must pass on the legacy of Christ and his Church, and a nation that is just will rise from the ash-heap of our day. I am pessimistic, but full of hope. And I have optimism on one count. There really are a lot of good people in America yet. There is a word present in the American vocabulary &#8211; revival. This time, instead of setting up tents or preaching fiery sermons, let us allow the Queen of Heaven to order it aright.</p>
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		<title>By: People Smarter Than Me, Part VII: Meaning and Meaninglessness &#171; Saint Superman</title>
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		<dc:creator>People Smarter Than Me, Part VII: Meaning and Meaninglessness &#171; Saint Superman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] October 22, 2008 in catholicism, culture, people smarter than me, writing &#124; by Brian Visaggio    Mark Shea on the Search for Meaning Apart from God and the Meaninglessness Found There [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MICHAEL</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/10/22/113789/comment-page-1/#comment-35287</link>
		<dc:creator>MICHAEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for reminding me of where our true Hope ought to be and in Whom our True Hope should  be in. These are certainly very trying, difficult and frustrating times for many people. We struggle to make ends meet, we wonder how we will ever retire now that our 401k&#039;s have been blown up, how can I send my kids to college. I look at the Presidentail race and also look at local races in my home state of NY and say to myslef is my voice being heard-it seems that everything I believe in and would like to see in this country is not just faiding away but being violently torn asunder. Because of my humaness, this has all pushed hard upon me, but thanks to this article I must continue to lift up my eyes to where His Glory Comes from. Hope- the real Hope is ever present in the Worls and is always avialable to me only if I ask.

Peace to all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for reminding me of where our true Hope ought to be and in Whom our True Hope should  be in. These are certainly very trying, difficult and frustrating times for many people. We struggle to make ends meet, we wonder how we will ever retire now that our 401k&#8217;s have been blown up, how can I send my kids to college. I look at the Presidentail race and also look at local races in my home state of NY and say to myslef is my voice being heard-it seems that everything I believe in and would like to see in this country is not just faiding away but being violently torn asunder. Because of my humaness, this has all pushed hard upon me, but thanks to this article I must continue to lift up my eyes to where His Glory Comes from. Hope- the real Hope is ever present in the Worls and is always avialable to me only if I ask.</p>
<p>Peace to all</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Jewell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Jewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of a wicked pun off this article, these sad folk are really more &#039;consumed&#039; than consumers. Survivors of one evil of social cannibalism - permitted-to-be-born - they have joined in thinking that they are now consumers when they are yet but being &#039;consumed&#039; in other evil. 

Capitalism is no &#039;free&#039; market when it settles for the same materialisitic consumption as socialism portends for just-us-material humans. We become as a preternatural livestock to prey on each other, consuming as and how we will.

As one elderly, I know that time is fast approaching when they will discard my remnant from consumption lines. They will call me a &#039;useless eater&#039;, or some such, meaning that they no longer find anything about me of of which to consume me.

I am coming to an &lt;em&gt;end&lt;/em&gt; akin to the extermination of &lt;em&gt;not-yet-begun&lt;/em&gt; babies. I can become refuse of a &#039;no-longer-consumable&#039; just as babies can be discarded as unwanted &#039;non-consumables&#039; conceived (or not) in mutual consumption of &#039;casual sex&#039;.

And, frankly, we do not simply choose not to embrace our beloved Jesus Christ - we don&#039;t even embrace each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of a wicked pun off this article, these sad folk are really more &#8216;consumed&#8217; than consumers. Survivors of one evil of social cannibalism &#8211; permitted-to-be-born &#8211; they have joined in thinking that they are now consumers when they are yet but being &#8216;consumed&#8217; in other evil. </p>
<p>Capitalism is no &#8216;free&#8217; market when it settles for the same materialisitic consumption as socialism portends for just-us-material humans. We become as a preternatural livestock to prey on each other, consuming as and how we will.</p>
<p>As one elderly, I know that time is fast approaching when they will discard my remnant from consumption lines. They will call me a &#8216;useless eater&#8217;, or some such, meaning that they no longer find anything about me of of which to consume me.</p>
<p>I am coming to an <em>end</em> akin to the extermination of <em>not-yet-begun</em> babies. I can become refuse of a &#8216;no-longer-consumable&#8217; just as babies can be discarded as unwanted &#8216;non-consumables&#8217; conceived (or not) in mutual consumption of &#8216;casual sex&#8217;.</p>
<p>And, frankly, we do not simply choose not to embrace our beloved Jesus Christ &#8211; we don&#8217;t even embrace each other.</p>
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		<title>By: prairiehawk</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/10/22/113789/comment-page-1/#comment-35261</link>
		<dc:creator>prairiehawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mark, for a powerful and important essay. What I want to know is, when did we stop being &quot;citizens&quot; and start being &quot;consumers&quot;? I think it happened somewhere in the early 1990&#039;s, but I might be off by a decade or so. This fundamental shift is a sign of the self-image that shapes our times. If we&#039;re just consumers, then all we have to do is buy sandwiches, hi-def TV&#039;s, and Nintendo Wii&#039;s. If we&#039;re citizens, we have to wake up and realize it&#039;s time to take responsibility for our actions, become engaged in society, and help stop the downward spiral into oblivion. Is it too late already? I hope not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mark, for a powerful and important essay. What I want to know is, when did we stop being &#8220;citizens&#8221; and start being &#8220;consumers&#8221;? I think it happened somewhere in the early 1990&#8242;s, but I might be off by a decade or so. This fundamental shift is a sign of the self-image that shapes our times. If we&#8217;re just consumers, then all we have to do is buy sandwiches, hi-def TV&#8217;s, and Nintendo Wii&#8217;s. If we&#8217;re citizens, we have to wake up and realize it&#8217;s time to take responsibility for our actions, become engaged in society, and help stop the downward spiral into oblivion. Is it too late already? I hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope for a Post-Hope Culture &#124; Baby Boomers and Aging</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope for a Post-Hope Culture &#124; Baby Boomers and Aging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More here: Hope for a Post-Hope Culture [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cooky642</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cooky642</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Shea, will you do me the favor of re-running this article on Wednesday, November 5?  No matter who wins our election, we&#039;re going to need to be reminded that God is in control--ultimate control.

Thanks for your sanity amidst the chaos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Shea, will you do me the favor of re-running this article on Wednesday, November 5?  No matter who wins our election, we&#8217;re going to need to be reminded that God is in control&#8211;ultimate control.</p>
<p>Thanks for your sanity amidst the chaos.</p>
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