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		<title>By: Christ, Obama and America &#124; anitacrane.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christ, Obama and America &#124; anitacrane.com</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Tech Tips for Catholic Teens &#187; Favorite Five Friday (vol. 08)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tech Tips for Catholic Teens &#187; Favorite Five Friday (vol. 08)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SolaGratia</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/10/03/114054/comment-page-1/#comment-34718</link>
		<dc:creator>SolaGratia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 02:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noelfitz, I appreciate your admission - it is just a shame that you allow bigotry to form your voting conscience instead of your Church.

I strongly recommend that you try reading history that is not so selective.  Do you disdain Abraham Lincoln as well?  The GOP does not have a monopoly on greed &amp; corruption - it&#039;s a bipartisan human weakness.  Just a quick google search will show you that - despite the frantic attempts to shift blame - the current mess was largely fueled by Democrats with their hands in Fannie &amp; Freddie&#039;s pockets and it is well documented.

Hitler would never have come to power if the German people hadn&#039;t decided that the economy was more important than protection of the weak &amp; defenseless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noelfitz, I appreciate your admission &#8211; it is just a shame that you allow bigotry to form your voting conscience instead of your Church.</p>
<p>I strongly recommend that you try reading history that is not so selective.  Do you disdain Abraham Lincoln as well?  The GOP does not have a monopoly on greed &amp; corruption &#8211; it&#8217;s a bipartisan human weakness.  Just a quick google search will show you that &#8211; despite the frantic attempts to shift blame &#8211; the current mess was largely fueled by Democrats with their hands in Fannie &amp; Freddie&#8217;s pockets and it is well documented.</p>
<p>Hitler would never have come to power if the German people hadn&#8217;t decided that the economy was more important than protection of the weak &amp; defenseless.</p>
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		<title>By: wgsullivan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NoelFitz,

It was good to read your admission of dislike for Republicans.  Good in the fact that you are honest.  But as others have mentioned, to go down in financial ruin is better than to go down in moral ruin.  Yes, there are many politicians on both sides of the isle very corrupt but the Republican platform is basically more in line with the Christ&#039;s Church and it&#039;s teachings than the Democrat platform.
If we look at the non-negotiables of Jesus and His Church, the pro-life action of the current president (supreme court picks, non-funding of various UN groups pushing abortion, to name a few), the stances of the presidential nominees on life issues, and the proportionality teaching of Christ&#039;s Church one may need to excercise our faith muscle and trust Christ and His Church.  
The Bishops can&#039;t tell us out loud who to vote for but it&#039;s obvious who they think we should vote for.  And for some, a bitter pill to swallow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NoelFitz,</p>
<p>It was good to read your admission of dislike for Republicans.  Good in the fact that you are honest.  But as others have mentioned, to go down in financial ruin is better than to go down in moral ruin.  Yes, there are many politicians on both sides of the isle very corrupt but the Republican platform is basically more in line with the Christ&#8217;s Church and it&#8217;s teachings than the Democrat platform.<br />
If we look at the non-negotiables of Jesus and His Church, the pro-life action of the current president (supreme court picks, non-funding of various UN groups pushing abortion, to name a few), the stances of the presidential nominees on life issues, and the proportionality teaching of Christ&#8217;s Church one may need to excercise our faith muscle and trust Christ and His Church.<br />
The Bishops can&#8217;t tell us out loud who to vote for but it&#8217;s obvious who they think we should vote for.  And for some, a bitter pill to swallow.</p>
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		<title>By: noelfitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>noelfitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary

Thank you for your immediate reply.

You know how highly I respect your views and commitment to the Church, so I would be upset if you were to consider me anti-American or not loyal to the Church in any way.  I would not contribute here if I were.

I have live in the States and appreciate how the US saved Europe after two world wars. The reconstruction of Europe depended on the Marshall Plan and peace came to Northern Ireland due, in no small measure, to President Clinton.

However, I do not like Republicans. Their policies have brought the world close to financial chaos. They caused the Depression after 1929 and it took the greatest President in the last 100 years, FDR,  to restore prosperity.

I can not admire a person who would divorce his wife, injured in a terrible accident, and then live with a rich woman who could finance his ambitions.  A senile old man who thinks Spain is in Latin America is no leader for the free world.

I would be worried about having as president (or VP) a young woman who said she was in Iraq, when she was in Kuwait.  Either she is a liar or terribly stupid.  Even before the election she has threatened Russia (a country she saw from  Alaska) with war.  

She is being kept away from interviews, sinceshe  would harm McCain’s chances.  I admit she has a nice smile, nice legs, can wink and be folksy.  However Biden was warned not to be tough on her, as being forceful with  young lady would not be appropriate.  In high office can one expect the same courtesies?

Mary, you know how I admire the courage and patriotism of young Americas who are serving overseas.

Years ago in Ireland many rural houses had pictures of the Sacred Heart, John XXIII and John F. Kennedy.  Americans were admired here.

In Ireland we have greed and corruption, but our constitution does have a right to life of the unborn.


God bless,

NoelFitz.
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 “When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favor of abortion and/or euthanasia but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons” Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary</p>
<p>Thank you for your immediate reply.</p>
<p>You know how highly I respect your views and commitment to the Church, so I would be upset if you were to consider me anti-American or not loyal to the Church in any way.  I would not contribute here if I were.</p>
<p>I have live in the States and appreciate how the US saved Europe after two world wars. The reconstruction of Europe depended on the Marshall Plan and peace came to Northern Ireland due, in no small measure, to President Clinton.</p>
<p>However, I do not like Republicans. Their policies have brought the world close to financial chaos. They caused the Depression after 1929 and it took the greatest President in the last 100 years, FDR,  to restore prosperity.</p>
<p>I can not admire a person who would divorce his wife, injured in a terrible accident, and then live with a rich woman who could finance his ambitions.  A senile old man who thinks Spain is in Latin America is no leader for the free world.</p>
<p>I would be worried about having as president (or VP) a young woman who said she was in Iraq, when she was in Kuwait.  Either she is a liar or terribly stupid.  Even before the election she has threatened Russia (a country she saw from  Alaska) with war.  </p>
<p>She is being kept away from interviews, sinceshe  would harm McCain’s chances.  I admit she has a nice smile, nice legs, can wink and be folksy.  However Biden was warned not to be tough on her, as being forceful with  young lady would not be appropriate.  In high office can one expect the same courtesies?</p>
<p>Mary, you know how I admire the courage and patriotism of young Americas who are serving overseas.</p>
<p>Years ago in Ireland many rural houses had pictures of the Sacred Heart, John XXIII and John F. Kennedy.  Americans were admired here.</p>
<p>In Ireland we have greed and corruption, but our constitution does have a right to life of the unborn.</p>
<p>God bless,</p>
<p>NoelFitz.<br />
___________________________________<br />
 “When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favor of abortion and/or euthanasia but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons” Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI.<br />
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		<title>By: sabr</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noelfitz,

Please explain to us what you consider to be proportionate to the ~50 million innocent children killed by their own mothers since Roe.

Faithful Citizenship talks about choosing the *lesser* of two evils, not turning a blind eye to fundamental grave immorality because of some lesser policy positions you may agree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noelfitz,</p>
<p>Please explain to us what you consider to be proportionate to the ~50 million innocent children killed by their own mothers since Roe.</p>
<p>Faithful Citizenship talks about choosing the *lesser* of two evils, not turning a blind eye to fundamental grave immorality because of some lesser policy positions you may agree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy James</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/10/03/114054/comment-page-1/#comment-34682</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>noelfitz, your leftism is misguided.  You are right in that pro-life is not just limited to abortion, but the bishops have made it clear that abortion is THE issue, and is not to be interchanged with others like you have done.

With the exception of contraception and stem cell research, you are wrong on all points.

Was the invasion of Europe in 1945, which ended World War II (and the Holocaust) pro-life?  I would argue it was, as is the war on terror protecting free people from Islamofascism.

Depriving people of healthcare?  Give me a break.  Ever heard of Medicaid and Medicare?  From my perspective, my biggest burden outside of my mortgage is my tax bill, and I would argue that the pro-life side is to lessen the tax burden so people can do a better job taking care of themselves.

Incarceration??  Once again, give me a break.  Should we release them into society and ask them to be nice people?  Would you tell the victim of a repeat offender that you are doing the pro-life thing?

Infant mortality?  Are you living in America, my friend?  I have nine children and can say for certain that our medical care of infants is the best there is.  Our nurse from our last birth (last week) almost didn&#039;t let us leave the hospital because our car seat was older than 5 years.

Illegal immigrants?  You mean people who break the laws of our sovereign nation?  Do you believe in American sovereignty, or shoud we join up with the one world government?

Abortion is THE pro-life issue, and Obama will solidify it beyond our ability to ever see it overturned.  Those who support him based on mis-guided arguments such as yours are assisting in the greatest evil ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>noelfitz, your leftism is misguided.  You are right in that pro-life is not just limited to abortion, but the bishops have made it clear that abortion is THE issue, and is not to be interchanged with others like you have done.</p>
<p>With the exception of contraception and stem cell research, you are wrong on all points.</p>
<p>Was the invasion of Europe in 1945, which ended World War II (and the Holocaust) pro-life?  I would argue it was, as is the war on terror protecting free people from Islamofascism.</p>
<p>Depriving people of healthcare?  Give me a break.  Ever heard of Medicaid and Medicare?  From my perspective, my biggest burden outside of my mortgage is my tax bill, and I would argue that the pro-life side is to lessen the tax burden so people can do a better job taking care of themselves.</p>
<p>Incarceration??  Once again, give me a break.  Should we release them into society and ask them to be nice people?  Would you tell the victim of a repeat offender that you are doing the pro-life thing?</p>
<p>Infant mortality?  Are you living in America, my friend?  I have nine children and can say for certain that our medical care of infants is the best there is.  Our nurse from our last birth (last week) almost didn&#8217;t let us leave the hospital because our car seat was older than 5 years.</p>
<p>Illegal immigrants?  You mean people who break the laws of our sovereign nation?  Do you believe in American sovereignty, or shoud we join up with the one world government?</p>
<p>Abortion is THE pro-life issue, and Obama will solidify it beyond our ability to ever see it overturned.  Those who support him based on mis-guided arguments such as yours are assisting in the greatest evil ever.</p>
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		<title>By: mkochan</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/10/03/114054/comment-page-1/#comment-34681</link>
		<dc:creator>mkochan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millions of US citizens are not deprived of healthcare.

Illegal aliens do have civil rights.

Catholics are free to disagree about the war.

We have civil liberties that don&#039;t allow the government to force women to get prenatal care -- which is available free or sliding scale for any woman in this country that wants it, including voucheres for high protein foods and vitamin-enriched grain products for pregnant and nursing mothers and young children.  It&#039;s called the WIC (Women, Infants, Children) program. Our civil liberties also do not allow the government place pg women under surveillance, house arrest, or protective custody to keep them from using crack, drinking, overeating, or doing other things to endanger the health of their babies. Sorry about that.

So what else don&#039;t you like about America today?

Maybe you would like to discourse on  the absolute perfection of Ireland for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millions of US citizens are not deprived of healthcare.</p>
<p>Illegal aliens do have civil rights.</p>
<p>Catholics are free to disagree about the war.</p>
<p>We have civil liberties that don&#8217;t allow the government to force women to get prenatal care &#8212; which is available free or sliding scale for any woman in this country that wants it, including voucheres for high protein foods and vitamin-enriched grain products for pregnant and nursing mothers and young children.  It&#8217;s called the WIC (Women, Infants, Children) program. Our civil liberties also do not allow the government place pg women under surveillance, house arrest, or protective custody to keep them from using crack, drinking, overeating, or doing other things to endanger the health of their babies. Sorry about that.</p>
<p>So what else don&#8217;t you like about America today?</p>
<p>Maybe you would like to discourse on  the absolute perfection of Ireland for us.</p>
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		<title>By: noelfitz</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/10/03/114054/comment-page-1/#comment-34679</link>
		<dc:creator>noelfitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abortion is not the only pro-life issue and both Obama and McCain are in favor of abortion.  

We should encourage all to have life and have it to the full.

Thus the following are NOT pro-life:

the war in Iraq,

incarceration of over 1% of the population,

contraception,

depriving millions of US citizens of health care,

mistreatment and torture of prisoners,

tolerating infant mortality on a scale only seen in third world countries.

having a society that uses the labor of undocumented/illegals that are without civic rights, which is a form of slavery,

embryonic stem cell research.

 
God bless,

NoelFitz.
___________________________________
 “When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favor of abortion and/or euthanasia but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons” Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abortion is not the only pro-life issue and both Obama and McCain are in favor of abortion.  </p>
<p>We should encourage all to have life and have it to the full.</p>
<p>Thus the following are NOT pro-life:</p>
<p>the war in Iraq,</p>
<p>incarceration of over 1% of the population,</p>
<p>contraception,</p>
<p>depriving millions of US citizens of health care,</p>
<p>mistreatment and torture of prisoners,</p>
<p>tolerating infant mortality on a scale only seen in third world countries.</p>
<p>having a society that uses the labor of undocumented/illegals that are without civic rights, which is a form of slavery,</p>
<p>embryonic stem cell research.</p>
<p>God bless,</p>
<p>NoelFitz.<br />
___________________________________<br />
 “When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favor of abortion and/or euthanasia but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons” Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI.<br />
____________________________________</p>
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		<title>By: BerenCamlost</title>
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		<dc:creator>BerenCamlost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to see stuff like this!</description>
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