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		<title>By: bhokuto</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/09/05/113679/comment-page-1/#comment-35973</link>
		<dc:creator>bhokuto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commenting on &quot;Does the Priest bore you?&quot;

The Priests for the Lay &quot;represents&quot; the Heart of Jesus to us.  God reads hearts.
If hearts do not reflect love towards the One and Only, this is reflected by the Priests as an outward sign, Jesus is in Every Priest.  They are chosen by the &quot;rite&quot; set in motion by God.  This means God is bored of us.  Faith, when the Son of God returns, will He find faith on the Earth?  Only a few.

This is why we must love God first will all our beings.  Then, Jesus sees love coming to the Tabernacle and He inflames us more with His Body and Blood.  Holy Communion.

When we partake of the Eucharist, Jesus give us His Heart, The Eucharistic Heart of Jesus, the Heart of God.  Love is cultivated in the Heart, so God gives us His Love.  The heart of man as human pumps blood, the heart of man as spirit pumps spiritual blood, God gives us His blood to mix with ours to create spiritual blood ties, thus we become Gods sons and daughters.

Science of the Saints- one of the Seven Fold Gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding, Counsel, Science, Piety, Fear of God.

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commenting on &#8220;Does the Priest bore you?&#8221;</p>
<p>The Priests for the Lay &#8220;represents&#8221; the Heart of Jesus to us.  God reads hearts.<br />
If hearts do not reflect love towards the One and Only, this is reflected by the Priests as an outward sign, Jesus is in Every Priest.  They are chosen by the &#8220;rite&#8221; set in motion by God.  This means God is bored of us.  Faith, when the Son of God returns, will He find faith on the Earth?  Only a few.</p>
<p>This is why we must love God first will all our beings.  Then, Jesus sees love coming to the Tabernacle and He inflames us more with His Body and Blood.  Holy Communion.</p>
<p>When we partake of the Eucharist, Jesus give us His Heart, The Eucharistic Heart of Jesus, the Heart of God.  Love is cultivated in the Heart, so God gives us His Love.  The heart of man as human pumps blood, the heart of man as spirit pumps spiritual blood, God gives us His blood to mix with ours to create spiritual blood ties, thus we become Gods sons and daughters.</p>
<p>Science of the Saints- one of the Seven Fold Gifts of the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding, Counsel, Science, Piety, Fear of God.</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: bhokuto</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/09/05/113679/comment-page-1/#comment-35945</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings Cheryl,

A rather interesting approach.

A few things:

1)  Christ didn&#039;t leave anything.  He gave, and Gives continuosly.
2)  Though you are frustrated at Faith taking a dive, It must be so.
3)  This really gives more of a reason for those teeter-tottering on the edge, to actually go. 
4)  The Catholic Community needs to Repair all these problems. 
5)  The Priests are few are far and they are reaching out where they are welcomed
to build communities of Faithful believers.  For instance they want the lay to get involved in creating bible studies, prayer and worship times, gatherings to keep people in tune with the Holy Faith rather than bonking out in front of TV&#039;s sets or computers.

The problems are everywhere in life.  Yet they can all be overcome when people begin to live in Charity.  Charity, Charity, Charity.  Using the creativeness God has given to each.  

Jesus constantly was saying to His apostles and disciples, love one another, by this they will know.  

Luke 21:34  And take heed to yourselves, lest perhaps your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkeness, and &quot;the cares of this life&quot;..... {the rest you can read}  the emphasis on cares of this life. 

 Everywhere, people are in &quot;cares of this life&quot; and they do it on their own whims, though God allows them to, but they do it out of getting somewhere other than back to where Life comes from.  So they obstinately waste Gods graces Who gives and gives and gives.  At some point that will cease because they are not giving back.  So if you go to Mass thinkng God&#039;s going to give after you wasted 
all your time and free will living for yourself, you will only get what you deserver after you wasted all.  That&#039;s when the bell starts sounding.  And that&#039;s when pride comes out full blown, and that&#039;s when rebellion is understood and that&#039;s when, God says, I gave to you but you failed to &quot;thank Me&quot;.  Now you come to Me as beggar.  Learn what you have wasted and why I do not give.  If I continue to give as I did then, you would end up beyond salvation.  Now learn and humble yourself and change your ways.  

This will eventually happen to those who walked out and probably a third will return, the rest jumped ship for good.  That&#039;s sad story.

Good lesson to remember:  God took a small group of people and made them His for several centuries and made a promise to Abraham about sand of the Sea.  But what we do not seem to notice is that out of the &quot;whole&quot; world back then Israel was small in comparison or A Remnant.  This is always the case.  The Elect.  
The promise being sand of the sea is the whole world through him, but this is really metaphoric as in the symbolism is really God the Father.  For He created all souls and they number the sands of the sea.  All of mankind.  Thus Jesus sets the Pharisees straight about the Pharisees being Abrahams followers.

Read Ezchiel 37 it tells us about the &quot;Elect&quot;.  A small number. It&#039;s never going to be a large number as we think and hope.  The parable about, God inviting the rich and powerful, they had excuses.  And then he told the servants to go out to the streets and invite the rest, and out of these only those dressed for the occasion were accepted.  This leaves very little.

Though the Church may boast 1 billion on the roster, the roster will be trimmed to those who love God.  Weeding out process is happening.  Those who rather live for &quot;cares of this life&quot;.

Peace

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Cheryl,</p>
<p>A rather interesting approach.</p>
<p>A few things:</p>
<p>1)  Christ didn&#8217;t leave anything.  He gave, and Gives continuosly.<br />
2)  Though you are frustrated at Faith taking a dive, It must be so.<br />
3)  This really gives more of a reason for those teeter-tottering on the edge, to actually go.<br />
4)  The Catholic Community needs to Repair all these problems.<br />
5)  The Priests are few are far and they are reaching out where they are welcomed<br />
to build communities of Faithful believers.  For instance they want the lay to get involved in creating bible studies, prayer and worship times, gatherings to keep people in tune with the Holy Faith rather than bonking out in front of TV&#8217;s sets or computers.</p>
<p>The problems are everywhere in life.  Yet they can all be overcome when people begin to live in Charity.  Charity, Charity, Charity.  Using the creativeness God has given to each.  </p>
<p>Jesus constantly was saying to His apostles and disciples, love one another, by this they will know.  </p>
<p>Luke 21:34  And take heed to yourselves, lest perhaps your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkeness, and &#8220;the cares of this life&#8221;&#8230;.. {the rest you can read}  the emphasis on cares of this life. </p>
<p> Everywhere, people are in &#8220;cares of this life&#8221; and they do it on their own whims, though God allows them to, but they do it out of getting somewhere other than back to where Life comes from.  So they obstinately waste Gods graces Who gives and gives and gives.  At some point that will cease because they are not giving back.  So if you go to Mass thinkng God&#8217;s going to give after you wasted<br />
all your time and free will living for yourself, you will only get what you deserver after you wasted all.  That&#8217;s when the bell starts sounding.  And that&#8217;s when pride comes out full blown, and that&#8217;s when rebellion is understood and that&#8217;s when, God says, I gave to you but you failed to &#8220;thank Me&#8221;.  Now you come to Me as beggar.  Learn what you have wasted and why I do not give.  If I continue to give as I did then, you would end up beyond salvation.  Now learn and humble yourself and change your ways.  </p>
<p>This will eventually happen to those who walked out and probably a third will return, the rest jumped ship for good.  That&#8217;s sad story.</p>
<p>Good lesson to remember:  God took a small group of people and made them His for several centuries and made a promise to Abraham about sand of the Sea.  But what we do not seem to notice is that out of the &#8220;whole&#8221; world back then Israel was small in comparison or A Remnant.  This is always the case.  The Elect.<br />
The promise being sand of the sea is the whole world through him, but this is really metaphoric as in the symbolism is really God the Father.  For He created all souls and they number the sands of the sea.  All of mankind.  Thus Jesus sets the Pharisees straight about the Pharisees being Abrahams followers.</p>
<p>Read Ezchiel 37 it tells us about the &#8220;Elect&#8221;.  A small number. It&#8217;s never going to be a large number as we think and hope.  The parable about, God inviting the rich and powerful, they had excuses.  And then he told the servants to go out to the streets and invite the rest, and out of these only those dressed for the occasion were accepted.  This leaves very little.</p>
<p>Though the Church may boast 1 billion on the roster, the roster will be trimmed to those who love God.  Weeding out process is happening.  Those who rather live for &#8220;cares of this life&#8221;.</p>
<p>Peace</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Roeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Roeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>markpro67,

Your advocacy for more frequent confession is great, but what Dave&#039;s last comment (and mine) are addressing is recovering_catholic&#039;s assertions that:

there is no longer a need to explain the mysteries of the universe, 
all religions are based on myth,
the Church is rigid, patriarchal, and has no respect for the beliefs of others,
people leave the Church because they are no longer sheep and think for themselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>markpro67,</p>
<p>Your advocacy for more frequent confession is great, but what Dave&#8217;s last comment (and mine) are addressing is recovering_catholic&#8217;s assertions that:</p>
<p>there is no longer a need to explain the mysteries of the universe,<br />
all religions are based on myth,<br />
the Church is rigid, patriarchal, and has no respect for the beliefs of others,<br />
people leave the Church because they are no longer sheep and think for themselves</p>
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		<title>By: markpro67</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/09/05/113679/comment-page-1/#comment-33951</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And please Dave, don&#039;t go around this with all kinds of words, just state the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And please Dave, don&#8217;t go around this with all kinds of words, just state the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: markpro67</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/09/05/113679/comment-page-1/#comment-33950</link>
		<dc:creator>markpro67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How often have you gone to Mass early and seen a line of people out the door waiting for Confession?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How often have you gone to Mass early and seen a line of people out the door waiting for Confession?</p>
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		<title>By: markpro67</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/09/05/113679/comment-page-1/#comment-33949</link>
		<dc:creator>markpro67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we go again going around the fact that most catholics that go to church every week have not even been or even thought about going to confession in the last year, never mind the ones that have never been, but go to church on Sunday and receive the lord unworthily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again going around the fact that most catholics that go to church every week have not even been or even thought about going to confession in the last year, never mind the ones that have never been, but go to church on Sunday and receive the lord unworthily.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/09/05/113679/comment-page-1/#comment-33930</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>recovering_catholic,

Are we all not sinners .. even yourself (whether you believe in the spiritual aspects or not).  But name one &quot;instituition&quot; (not my word) that has done more good for mankind that the Catholic Church?</description>
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<p>Are we all not sinners .. even yourself (whether you believe in the spiritual aspects or not).  But name one &#8220;instituition&#8221; (not my word) that has done more good for mankind that the Catholic Church?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Roeder</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/09/05/113679/comment-page-1/#comment-33927</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Roeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>recovering_catholic,

Thank you for reading catholicexchange and contributing to the comments boxes. Your time here is not wasted, but you seem to have a very mistaken understanding about the Church&#039;s teachings on God&#039;s revelation, conscience, the Mass, and the freedom of faith -- among others. 

I would sincerely invite you to read through the Catechism of the Catholic Church, with special attention to the Church&#039;s respect for religious liberty (paragraph 2108)  

As you might know, most Catholics are not Republicans. In fact, most Catholics are not even Americans.

I am also puzzled by your comment on no longer needing to explain the mysteries of the universe. Are you implying that they have all been figured out?

It is telling that you chastise the Church for a lack of respect for others peoples&#039; beliefs in the very same sentence that you use the term &quot;sheeple&quot; to refer to Catholics.

&quot;Sheeple&quot; is a very interesting term. I have found it is difficult for me to admit that I need a guide, a shepherd. Doesn&#039;t everybody need one, no matter how hard it is to accept it? 

Please reconsider the good news of Jesus Christ. You will be in our family&#039;s prayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>recovering_catholic,</p>
<p>Thank you for reading catholicexchange and contributing to the comments boxes. Your time here is not wasted, but you seem to have a very mistaken understanding about the Church&#8217;s teachings on God&#8217;s revelation, conscience, the Mass, and the freedom of faith &#8212; among others. </p>
<p>I would sincerely invite you to read through the Catechism of the Catholic Church, with special attention to the Church&#8217;s respect for religious liberty (paragraph 2108)  </p>
<p>As you might know, most Catholics are not Republicans. In fact, most Catholics are not even Americans.</p>
<p>I am also puzzled by your comment on no longer needing to explain the mysteries of the universe. Are you implying that they have all been figured out?</p>
<p>It is telling that you chastise the Church for a lack of respect for others peoples&#8217; beliefs in the very same sentence that you use the term &#8220;sheeple&#8221; to refer to Catholics.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sheeple&#8221; is a very interesting term. I have found it is difficult for me to admit that I need a guide, a shepherd. Doesn&#8217;t everybody need one, no matter how hard it is to accept it? </p>
<p>Please reconsider the good news of Jesus Christ. You will be in our family&#8217;s prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: recovering_catholic</title>
		<link>http://catholicexchange.com/2008/09/05/113679/comment-page-1/#comment-33912</link>
		<dc:creator>recovering_catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the best reason for leaving the Church, you no longer believe in the existence of a patriarchal God, Virgin Birth, and other such &quot;mysteries&quot;?  How about the fact that all religion is rooted in thousands of years old mythology, that we no longer need to explain the &quot;mysteries&quot; of the universe?  How about the fact that someone decided to start thinking for themselves?  How about the fact that the Catholic Church&#039;s rigid patriarchy is eventually going to be it&#039;s downfall?  And making light of people&#039;s reasons for finding a new spiritual path -- no wonder people are leaving in record numbers.  You have no respect for the beliefs of others.  In fact, I am probably wasting my time with &quot;sheeple&quot; such as yourselves.  You can have your faith, but please, please, do not force it upon others -- it makes you look desperate.  If you don&#039;t like it you can move to the Vatican City, the country that you pledge allegiance to every time you attend Mass.  And you can take the entire Republican Party with you, they have destroyed or belittled every institution which has made our country great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the best reason for leaving the Church, you no longer believe in the existence of a patriarchal God, Virgin Birth, and other such &#8220;mysteries&#8221;?  How about the fact that all religion is rooted in thousands of years old mythology, that we no longer need to explain the &#8220;mysteries&#8221; of the universe?  How about the fact that someone decided to start thinking for themselves?  How about the fact that the Catholic Church&#8217;s rigid patriarchy is eventually going to be it&#8217;s downfall?  And making light of people&#8217;s reasons for finding a new spiritual path &#8212; no wonder people are leaving in record numbers.  You have no respect for the beliefs of others.  In fact, I am probably wasting my time with &#8220;sheeple&#8221; such as yourselves.  You can have your faith, but please, please, do not force it upon others &#8212; it makes you look desperate.  If you don&#8217;t like it you can move to the Vatican City, the country that you pledge allegiance to every time you attend Mass.  And you can take the entire Republican Party with you, they have destroyed or belittled every institution which has made our country great.</p>
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		<title>By: markpro67</title>
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		<dc:creator>markpro67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s Sarcastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s Sarcastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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