Comments on: Going Off the Deep End in Denver: Democrats Walk the Abortion Plank

By: junior

junior — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:45:50 +0000

I agree, but I don’t think nuclear war is easily dismissed, since it could end life altogether, born and unborn. If it wasn’t for us having invaded Iraq under the idea that the ends justified the means we would be in a very strong position right now, or in the future, to outlaw abortion. I always have voted Pro-Life and I will in November, but we have made ourselves stooges of big oil, big cooperations, and the weapons industry. We seem to be in a catch 22 with the two party system. I doubt that if many Republicans could end abortion that they would, since as long as it’s an issue they know they have sown up a certain percentage of the vote.

By: Lucky Mom of 7

Lucky Mom of 7 — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:19:24 +0000

“We should focus on the beam in our own eye and our failures and get our message over to our own people that to destroy life is not a very good idea.”

In other words, the national elections and how they influence accessibility to abortion should be a non-issue until polls show that all Catholics believe that abortion is wrong? With all due respect, noel, I don’t see the practicality in that. The two issues are different elements of the same debate. Anyone who does anything in either arena is a hero.

Lucky

By: Claire

Claire — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +0000

Mom of 7, you are so right. I always resisted being a single-issue voter, but when it comes to abortion there is no other “choice” but to vote to end this epidemic.

By: Mickey Addison

Mickey Addison — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:45:50 +0000

I hasten to add only one point to this discussion…that is that according to the USCCB, rejecting a candidate because of a single issue is NOT the same as “single issue voting.”

As Catholics, we are not “single issue voters.” We are permitted, however, to disqualify a particular candidate over a single issue.

The Dems, however, have more than one issue working against them anyway. In their “ardent, practicing” embrace of abortion, euthanasia, human cloning, homosexual “marriage”, embryonic stem cell research, State-sponsored sex education, etc, etc, they have disqualified themselves from this Catholic’s vote…and I submit, all Catholic’s votes.

By: noelfitz

noelfitz — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:18:40 +0000

Ekbell

Thank you for your reply to me. I am sorry I was not more clear and emphatic in what I was trying to say.

My point is that we Catholics have failed to show our fellow members of the peopee of God that abortion is wrong. We have failed to teach Catholics ro appreciate life.

We should focus on the beam in our own eye and our failures and get our message over to our own people that to destroy life is not a very good idea.

Many of us share this guilt, for not doing emough to let people that know life is good.

God bless,
Noelfitz.
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS, IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS, IN OMNIBUS CARITAS.
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By: ekbell

ekbell — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:10:37 +0000

Noelfitz;

I have missed the gist of your post.

Are you suggesting that prolife catholics cannot turn their backs on prochoice candidates merely because there exist poorly catechised catholics who are not prolife.

Or do you object to the USCCB using the election platform as a teaching point to educate poorly catechised catholics (given what Obama has promised vis FOCA, if not now, when?).

The bishops are not telling catholics to vote against democrats, their are telling catholics to vote for life. If after exploring the conscience in light of catholic values, it means not voting for democrats, it is the fault of the democrats.

Richard Bell, using his wife’s account. Other than leading me to the catholic faith, she bears no responsibilty for my opinions.

By: Cooky642

Cooky642 — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:32:53 +0000

Thank you, Jay Peroni, for a seriously-needed response to this article! So many pro-lifers are voting for abortion with their wallets, and don’t know….and, don’t CARE! I have no control whatever over the limited investments my family makes, but I won’t give up trying to convince them that there’s a “right” way and an oh-so-wrong way to invest regardless of the rolling eyes I get.

By: noelfitz

noelfitz — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:57:18 +0000

I think it is time for the Catholic Church to focus on its own position on abortion and not on that of other groups such as the Democratic Party.

I read that 26% of Catholics say that abortion should be generally available and 16% say it should never be permitted (http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=150).

If these figures are even remotely correct, we Catholics should be ashamed of ourselves, and not blame others.

We, the people of God, have failed. As individuals and as a community we have failed seriously to convince members of the Mystical Body of Christ that life is sacred.

Mea culpa, mea culpa mea maxima culpa.

By: mjlaloggia

mjlaloggia — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:35:22 +0000

Wonderful article and so appropriately titled. I think the Democratic party’s view of reality certainly has gone off the deep end. Thank you, Steven Mosher, for your awesome work!

By: guitarmom

guitarmom — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:26:56 +0000

Steven Mosher is 100% correct about the insidious nature of sex ed in our schools. One course I reviewed gave the following as a homework assignment:

“Find the bus route from your home to the nearest Planned Parenthood.” Extra credit was offered to students who actually visited the Planned Parenthood office.

Believe it or not, this curriculum was being proposed for a supposedly “Abstinence Based” sex ed class at our local public school!