Comments on: Mid-life Crisis Averted http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/ Catholic News, Catholic Articles, Catholic Apologetics, Catholic Content, Catholic Information Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21951 Guest Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:58:10 +0000 #comment-21951 <em>God loves you .</em> M'Lady Kochan, et al, Getting acceleratingly older, spiritually wiser and - I guess - prayerfully 'ready' in some physical and psychic ways . . . Even my Medicare-Advantage insurer is sending me letters to <b>'get to your doctor!'</b> ?!?!?!? <i>WOOF!</i> I nap more than Internet, lately . . . jdminer - <i>Thank God</i>, my friend - do you think that I could come up with such humble power without His input? (HAH!) - Yet, I am pleased that you were graciously and gently affected by His Way in me . . . Same goes for you, Mrs. and Mr. Gunther - the Spirit treats my keyboard like some new fangled sacramental, sometimes. Don't you, too, find Him that way with your authorship? <em>Remember, I love you, too .</em> In the Suffering of Christ, and in His hope of His Resurrection, <em>Pristinus Sapienter</em> (wljewell @newcesite.com or ... yahoo.com) God loves you .

M’Lady Kochan, et al,

Getting acceleratingly older, spiritually wiser and – I guess – prayerfully ‘ready’ in some physical and psychic ways . . .

Even my Medicare-Advantage insurer is sending me letters to ‘get to your doctor!’ ?!?!?!? WOOF!

I nap more than Internet, lately . . .

jdminer – Thank God, my friend – do you think that I could come up with such humble power without His input? (HAH!) – Yet, I am pleased that you were graciously and gently affected by His Way in me . . .

Same goes for you, Mrs. and Mr. Gunther – the Spirit treats my keyboard like some new fangled sacramental, sometimes. Don’t you, too, find Him that way with your authorship?

Remember, I love you, too .

In the Suffering of Christ, and in His hope of His Resurrection,

Pristinus Sapienter

(wljewell @newcesite.com or … yahoo.com)

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21909 Guest Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:19:10 +0000 #comment-21909 Alice Gunther Cottage Blessings http://alice.typepad.com<div><br /></div><div>"<span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal" class="Apple-style-span">a great relationship of abiding grace helping our Lord Jesus to save both"</span><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Dear Mr. Jewell, Thank you for these beautiful words on marriage--I passed them along to my husband who appreciated them as well.  We will be praying for your wife on All Souls Day.</div></div> Alice Gunther Cottage Blessings http://alice.typepad.com
"a great relationship of abiding grace helping our Lord Jesus to save both"
Dear Mr. Jewell, Thank you for these beautiful words on marriage–I passed them along to my husband who appreciated them as well.  We will be praying for your wife on All Souls Day.
]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21889 Guest Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:49:10 +0000 #comment-21889 <p>"Mr. Jewell" - your comments reflect a love and wisdom that few seem to grasp nowadays. I hope I can attain something close to that in my time here. </p><p> </p><p>The devil's snare doesn't catch you unless you're already nibbling on the Devil's bait. -St. Ambrose of Milan </p> "Mr. Jewell" – your comments reflect a love and wisdom that few seem to grasp nowadays. I hope I can attain something close to that in my time here.

 

The devil's snare doesn't catch you unless you're already nibbling on the Devil's bait. -St. Ambrose of Milan

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21886 Guest Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:04:10 +0000 #comment-21886 Hi, Warren. Welcome back. Wondered where you had gotten off to. Hi, Warren. Welcome back. Wondered where you had gotten off to.

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21852 Guest Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:49:10 +0000 #comment-21852 <em>God loves you .</em> G.K.Chesterton made the point that we really only mature in middle-age – that it takes until then to notice that, even as the road (horizon, vista) seems to be ending, it is lined so with hope. For one thing, it is in hope that we embrace our temporal end and eternal Home. As a widower, I can attest that there would be more signs of hope if my life partner was still around. However, the rest of the signs – plenty of them – are there because Christ leads me on, and His Spirit keeps adding signs. Marriage as we know it ends here – it is Sacramental gift for this pilgrimage to share it with spouse and family. But, you cannot even suggest to me that the very intimate friendship that is nurtured between spouse and spouse – a great relationship of abiding grace helping our Lord Jesus to save both – does not go on, and on, and on . . . (I warn you that you may have to adapt to dance steps that include our Holy Spirit, SO delighted to have you with Him.) <em>Remember, I love you, too .</em> In the Suffering of Christ, and in His hope of His Resurrection, <em>Pristinus Sapienter</em> (wljewell @newcesite.com or ... yahoo.com) God loves you .

G.K.Chesterton made the point that we really only mature in middle-age – that it takes until then to notice that, even as the road (horizon, vista) seems to be ending, it is lined so with hope. For one thing, it is in hope that we embrace our temporal end and eternal Home.

As a widower, I can attest that there would be more signs of hope if my life partner was still around. However, the rest of the signs – plenty of them – are there because Christ leads me on, and His Spirit keeps adding signs.

Marriage as we know it ends here – it is Sacramental gift for this pilgrimage to share it with spouse and family. But, you cannot even suggest to me that the very intimate friendship that is nurtured between spouse and spouse – a great relationship of abiding grace helping our Lord Jesus to save both – does not go on, and on, and on . . .

(I warn you that you may have to adapt to dance steps that include our Holy Spirit, SO delighted to have you with Him.)

Remember, I love you, too .

In the Suffering of Christ, and in His hope of His Resurrection,

Pristinus Sapienter

(wljewell @newcesite.com or … yahoo.com)

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21842 Guest Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:44:10 +0000 #comment-21842 Alice Gunther Cottage Blessings http://alice.typepad.com<div><br /></div><div>Yes, our Lord said people are neither taken nor given in marriage in heaven--this is true, and I thank you for pointing it out.  Still, I would say, through the grace of the sacrament of marriage and the constant prayer we raise in the domestic church, spouses have an important spiritual relationship, helping each other to the ultimate goal.  If we reach heaven one day, we will share its joys forever!</div><div><br /></div><div>That is why it occurred to me that:  "<span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: normal" class="Apple-style-span">our dear little hill is but a stepping stone, a threshold to a Land of far Greater Promise, our merry campfire a foretaste of the jubilation and cheer to come."</span></div><div><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: normal" class="Apple-style-span"><br /></span></div><div><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: normal" class="Apple-style-span">Many thanks to everyone for reading the piece!</span></div><div><br /></div> Alice Gunther Cottage Blessings http://alice.typepad.com
Yes, our Lord said people are neither taken nor given in marriage in heaven–this is true, and I thank you for pointing it out.  Still, I would say, through the grace of the sacrament of marriage and the constant prayer we raise in the domestic church, spouses have an important spiritual relationship, helping each other to the ultimate goal.  If we reach heaven one day, we will share its joys forever!
That is why it occurred to me that:  "our dear little hill is but a stepping stone, a threshold to a Land of far Greater Promise, our merry campfire a foretaste of the jubilation and cheer to come."

Many thanks to everyone for reading the piece!
]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21840 Guest Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:34:10 +0000 #comment-21840 <p>There is a marriage in heaven, it is the marriage of the Lamb of God with His bride, the Church.</p><p> </p><p>"In the joys of their love and family life he gives them here on earth a foretaste of the wedding feast of the Lamb" (CCC 1642)</p><p> </p><p>The Church "longs to be united with Christ, her Bridegroom, in the glory of heaven" where she "will rejoice on day with [her] Beloved, in a happiness and rapture that can never end" (CCC, n. 1821)</p><p> </p><p>"For man, this consummation will be the final realization of the unity of the human race, which God willed from creation....Those who are united with Christ will form the community of the redeemed, 'the holy city' of God, 'the Bride, the wife of the Lamb'" (CCC, n.1045) </p><p> </p><p>Stirling: Read John Paul II's Theology of the Body or Christopher West's Theology of the Body explained. There is nothing in Church teaching to suggest that there will be sacramental marriage after death.  </p> There is a marriage in heaven, it is the marriage of the Lamb of God with His bride, the Church.

 

"In the joys of their love and family life he gives them here on earth a foretaste of the wedding feast of the Lamb" (CCC 1642)

 

The Church "longs to be united with Christ, her Bridegroom, in the glory of heaven" where she "will rejoice on day with [her] Beloved, in a happiness and rapture that can never end" (CCC, n. 1821)

 

"For man, this consummation will be the final realization of the unity of the human race, which God willed from creation….Those who are united with Christ will form the community of the redeemed, 'the holy city' of God, 'the Bride, the wife of the Lamb'" (CCC, n.1045) 

 

Stirling: Read John Paul II's Theology of the Body or Christopher West's Theology of the Body explained. There is nothing in Church teaching to suggest that there will be sacramental marriage after death.  

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21835 Guest Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:54:10 +0000 #comment-21835 <p>I believe Our Lord says "none are taken or given in marriage" in Heaven.  This suggests to me that no new marriage covenants are joined in Heaven.  Some interpret this to mean that there are no sexual relations in Heaven.  But Our Lord tells Peter that what is bound on earth is bound in Heaven.  While we can't be exactly sure what is intended for our spouses, and recognizing that marriage vows are fulfilled at the death of a spouse, I like to think that they will remain joined to us in a platonic familial way in the same sense that I would expect my parents to still be my parents.</p><p>I might also point out that Heaven is not our final destination.  Heaven is the holding tank until the Resurrection when we will be joined to our redeemed bodies.  Since God has communicated clearly that our bodies will be part of the new Jerusalem, I find it very plausable to infer that sacramental marriage and procreation may be part of that plan, as it was in Eden ...</p> I believe Our Lord says "none are taken or given in marriage" in Heaven.  This suggests to me that no new marriage covenants are joined in Heaven.  Some interpret this to mean that there are no sexual relations in Heaven.  But Our Lord tells Peter that what is bound on earth is bound in Heaven.  While we can't be exactly sure what is intended for our spouses, and recognizing that marriage vows are fulfilled at the death of a spouse, I like to think that they will remain joined to us in a platonic familial way in the same sense that I would expect my parents to still be my parents.

I might also point out that Heaven is not our final destination.  Heaven is the holding tank until the Resurrection when we will be joined to our redeemed bodies.  Since God has communicated clearly that our bodies will be part of the new Jerusalem, I find it very plausable to infer that sacramental marriage and procreation may be part of that plan, as it was in Eden …

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21831 Guest Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:16:10 +0000 #comment-21831 There is no marriage in Heaven.  <br /> There is no marriage in Heaven. 

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/10/29/83779/comment-page-1/#comment-21830 Guest Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:19:10 +0000 #comment-21830 <p>What a wonderful article.  Not too long ago, I was lying next to my husband in the waning hours before sleep creeps in.  My husband told me how blessed he was to have me as his wife.  We are both in our mid-fifties and it is easier now to see our lives in retrospect and realize how rapdily our lives are going along.  I told him that if he died before me how sad I would be without him.  His response was so wonderful, he told me he would be waiting to greet me and to remember this time we have together is only a tiny image of the joy we will experience together in Heaven as husband and wife.  The Sacrament of Marriage is truly God's gift to us, for it allows us to know in a very small way the glorious relationship Christ has for His Church of which we are all members.  Each day is a wondrous joy towards that ultimate Journeys end.</p> What a wonderful article.  Not too long ago, I was lying next to my husband in the waning hours before sleep creeps in.  My husband told me how blessed he was to have me as his wife.  We are both in our mid-fifties and it is easier now to see our lives in retrospect and realize how rapdily our lives are going along.  I told him that if he died before me how sad I would be without him.  His response was so wonderful, he told me he would be waiting to greet me and to remember this time we have together is only a tiny image of the joy we will experience together in Heaven as husband and wife.  The Sacrament of Marriage is truly God's gift to us, for it allows us to know in a very small way the glorious relationship Christ has for His Church of which we are all members.  Each day is a wondrous joy towards that ultimate Journeys end.

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