I have sought out and  do love my Holy and sweet (only because they're tough enough to set heaven and hell before me) priests.

Thanks!

He comes back, occasionally, to offer Mass when our pastor can't be there (although our new one is finding "other alternatives"!), and somebody got through to him: he now does "THE 25 words" correctly.

My constant refrain during the dilemna was: I don't care if he does handsprings down the aisle for the Procession, or mumbles the Mass in Mongolian–all I want/need are those 25 words!

I and many others have contacted the priest, his superior, the bishop, and Rome.  Nobody has done anything about this priest's ongoing practice of using nonordained people,including women and noncatholics, to read the gospel and give the homily.  He gives communion to noncatholics.  He routinely adds to the words of the consecration and uses unapproved eucharists prayers (I've seen the book he uses).  Non priests read the Eucharistic prayer in"private masses".  (I was in his bible study for ten years and saw this happen twice a year.  He passes the text around for each of us ladies to read. Even the words of the consecration and the elevation are carried out by the laity…only the Holy Spirit guarded my faith during those years.)  He described our understanding of the Eucharist as "consubstantiation and transfinalization " instead of "transubstantiation".  When I gave him the Pope Paul VI letter on the Eucharist, he gave it back to me the next week saying, "Thanks I'd forgotten about this."  I know for a fact that this 50 something priest laughs about letters his superior receives regarding him!

My family finally left the diocese over this issue and others because this order of priests, Oratorians, has a permanent stranglehold over this and several other counties.  The bishop is too–politically–indebted to them because they served this former mission territory well for a number of years prior to the heresies of the last 25 years.

Back to my issue, I've read a CUF answer to the invalidity of the mass if even one of the elements, bread and wine, is not concecrated due to the omission of words during the consecration (this is my body….)

I know we are owed in justice the mass as  given to us by the GIRM.  I feel very sad for those Catholics who can't participate in the mass as it is supposed to be celebrated.  Souls are a risk!  Nothing of the beauty and power and graces available should be lost for a single soul at a single mass!

As an aside, my 18 month old has just gotten into the powdered sugar.  She grinned, a devilish grin I might add, at me….almost challenging me not to laugh.  What should I do?  She shows NO remorse!

I am not sure of the specific canon law issues here either (so I never dare "adjust" the Eucharistic Prayers), but there is another distinction other than invalid – a Mass may be illicit and still be valid. However, I do not know regarding the issues you bring up.

I know there are a number of strange things being done, even after the corrections required by Rome. If I were you, I would go to this priest and say something like: "I am not familiar with the Eucharistic Prayer you are using. Is there a copy I can get so that I can follow along better?"

If he can't produce one, it may be time to speak to his superior.

Remember: you have the right to a proper Mass. Don't let yourself be pushed around, but be respectful, as he may just be using one of those E.P.s for special occasions mentioned in the main article above, and it may not be something you heard before but may be valid after all.

Remember: you have the right to a proper Mass. We priests need to understand that the Mass is not "ours" to adjust as we see fit. I pray for a peaceful and right resolution to your dilema. God bless.

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