Comments on: The Tide Is Turning Toward Catholicism: The Laity http://catholicexchange.com/2007/07/17/94540/ Catholic News, Catholic Articles, Catholic Apologetics, Catholic Content, Catholic Information Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/07/17/94540/comment-page-1/#comment-14243 Guest Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:28:07 +0000 #comment-14243 <p>awright: </p><p><em>You mention 'screening teachers for orthodox beliefs.' Sounds good. Where are all the orthodox Catholics willing to go into the Lords vineyard? </em><br /></p><p> </p><p>Here's one. But I can't seem to arouse interest from any DREs—even though I used to be one myself, and even though I'm in a pretty orthodox diocese. They're not interested in my views or proposals; if they were, they'd ask me about them. All they want to know is my marital status. Since I'm twice-divorced and now unmarried, the conversation usually ends right there.</p><p>I know I'm far from alone. Of course if I went to a "progressive" DRE, my marital status probably wouldn't be a problem. But I don't want to work for such a person; nor would they want me once they realize I'm Catholic. </p><p> </p><p>Best, Mike </p><p>http://mliccione.blogspot.com </p> awright:

You mention 'screening teachers for orthodox beliefs.' Sounds good. Where are all the orthodox Catholics willing to go into the Lords vineyard?

 

Here's one. But I can't seem to arouse interest from any DREs—even though I used to be one myself, and even though I'm in a pretty orthodox diocese. They're not interested in my views or proposals; if they were, they'd ask me about them. All they want to know is my marital status. Since I'm twice-divorced and now unmarried, the conversation usually ends right there.

I know I'm far from alone. Of course if I went to a "progressive" DRE, my marital status probably wouldn't be a problem. But I don't want to work for such a person; nor would they want me once they realize I'm Catholic.

 

Best, Mike

http://mliccione.blogspot.com

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/07/17/94540/comment-page-1/#comment-13959 Guest Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:48:07 +0000 #comment-13959 <p>All we have to do is continue to teach, to live and stand our ground. The Holy Spirit will do the conversions. The harvest has always been plentiful. </p><p>Goral</p> All we have to do is continue to teach, to live and stand our ground. The Holy Spirit will do the conversions. The harvest has always been plentiful.

Goral

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/07/17/94540/comment-page-1/#comment-13957 Guest Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:17:07 +0000 #comment-13957 When talking to people who concentrate on the "sins of the members" of the Catholic Church, as opposed to concentrating on the "Truth" of the Catholic Church, I try to remember to say, "Thank goodness the Early Church focused on Peter instead of Judas".  Scandal is nothing new to The Catholic Church.<br /> When talking to people who concentrate on the "sins of the members" of the Catholic Church, as opposed to concentrating on the "Truth" of the Catholic Church, I try to remember to say, "Thank goodness the Early Church focused on Peter instead of Judas".  Scandal is nothing new to The Catholic Church.

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/07/17/94540/comment-page-1/#comment-13951 Guest Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:15:07 +0000 #comment-13951 Just a small reaction to tmitchell from a person who has given years of his life teaching and training people in the Catholic faith at the high school, college level as well as to religious sisters. You mention 'screening teachers for orthodox beliefs.' Sounds good. Where are all the orthodox Catholics willing to go into the Lords vineyard? The Lords vineyard is not only in Africa and abroad but in our own parishes. Before people complain let them labor for a year in the Parish program. It is our Church so lets get to it. Peace, Allan Just a small reaction to tmitchell from a person who has given years of his life teaching and training people in the Catholic faith at the high school, college level as well as to religious sisters. You mention 'screening teachers for orthodox beliefs.' Sounds good. Where are all the orthodox Catholics willing to go into the Lords vineyard? The Lords vineyard is not only in Africa and abroad but in our own parishes. Before people complain let them labor for a year in the Parish program. It is our Church so lets get to it. Peace, Allan

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/07/17/94540/comment-page-1/#comment-13946 Guest Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:05:07 +0000 #comment-13946 I think this is a huge issue!  There are plenty of religious education programs but few, that I know of, screen their teachers for orthodox beliefs and lifestyle.  There are plenty of Bible studies for adults, but they are not all led by priests or expert apologists.  It seems to me that it is up to parents to become educated and teach their children, but there is also a problem with too many people who call themselves Catholic and yet proclaim to be pro-choice or pro-contraception or pro-gay "marriage" and refuse to recognize the proper authority given by Jesus Christ to the Church.  They are convinced they are right for no particularly good or valid reason and spread their lack of understanding of Church teaching to their children and neighbors.  I admire the recent Church document reiterating the Church's position on certain doctrine like the Catholic Church as the one and only true church as it helps distinguish the Catholic Church from other religions and hopefully helps Catholics realize that the Catholic faith is very much defined (see the Catechism!) and not all faiths or religions are created equal.  <div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Also, my recent experience with internet blogs on both secular and Christian sites indicates a definite lack in understanding what the Catholic Church actually teaches and even its most basic actions in history.  All secular society can seem to concentrate on is what certain sinful Catholics in the Church have done wrong and not the truth of the Church itself and this is a very sad fact and I find it difficult to think of a way to correct this situation.  How do you evangelize when so many people are convinced you are just plain wrong and attack the Church with bitter emotion and unreasonable arguments?  The hypocrisy of secular society is astounding and even though it refuses to believe in Church teaching it holds Catholics to a supposedly "higher standard" that it cannot seem to attain itself.  How do you teach the truth when no one seems to listen?</div> I think this is a huge issue!  There are plenty of religious education programs but few, that I know of, screen their teachers for orthodox beliefs and lifestyle.  There are plenty of Bible studies for adults, but they are not all led by priests or expert apologists.  It seems to me that it is up to parents to become educated and teach their children, but there is also a problem with too many people who call themselves Catholic and yet proclaim to be pro-choice or pro-contraception or pro-gay "marriage" and refuse to recognize the proper authority given by Jesus Christ to the Church.  They are convinced they are right for no particularly good or valid reason and spread their lack of understanding of Church teaching to their children and neighbors.  I admire the recent Church document reiterating the Church's position on certain doctrine like the Catholic Church as the one and only true church as it helps distinguish the Catholic Church from other religions and hopefully helps Catholics realize that the Catholic faith is very much defined (see the Catechism!) and not all faiths or religions are created equal.  
Also, my recent experience with internet blogs on both secular and Christian sites indicates a definite lack in understanding what the Catholic Church actually teaches and even its most basic actions in history.  All secular society can seem to concentrate on is what certain sinful Catholics in the Church have done wrong and not the truth of the Church itself and this is a very sad fact and I find it difficult to think of a way to correct this situation.  How do you evangelize when so many people are convinced you are just plain wrong and attack the Church with bitter emotion and unreasonable arguments?  The hypocrisy of secular society is astounding and even though it refuses to believe in Church teaching it holds Catholics to a supposedly "higher standard" that it cannot seem to attain itself.  How do you teach the truth when no one seems to listen?
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