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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 05:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m so glad to see that Melissa Wiley posted Alice Gunther&#039;s original addendum to this article. This is such a lovely piece about the beauty of children, who are always and everywhere a blessing -- a beautiful personal reflection. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Karen Edmisten &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://karenedmisten.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;http://karenedmisten.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m so glad to see that Melissa Wiley posted Alice Gunther&#39;s original addendum to this article. This is such a lovely piece about the beauty of children, who are always and everywhere a blessing &#8212; a beautiful personal reflection. </p>
<p>Karen Edmisten </p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I, like Alice, enjoy immensely seeing my oldest and youngest children interact.  They are 17 years apart!  We also share in our gratefulness to God that we were able to have many children over a span of a decade or two, never forgetting that not all who are open to many children become parents of many!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I encourage Ms. Hess Saxton to read the article again because she missed the point with this remark, &quot;To categorize such women across the board as selfish, culture-bound creatures (or tragic figures who simply &quot;need the money&quot;) is simply untrue and unjustified.&quot;  It is untrue and unjustified, however, I didn&#039;t read that in this article. In one fell swoop, Alice is critised for her reaction to a friend&#039;s statement and her understanding of women who do work outside the home!  She simply relayed the friend&#039;s comment and her opinion on what prompted the remark.  Alice said, &quot;She responded as our culture has taught her..., &quot;What a waste!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;... she meant them as a ... compliment, a tribute to my &quot;worth.&quot;  .... society&#039;s pervasive notion that children should be, ...., best left until prominence, profit and partnership are all checked off the to do list.  (...I am not talking about the many mothers who sacrifice for the good of their families by working outside the home, but those trapped in a spiral of unnecessary ambition, postponing the deepest joys in life.)&quot; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Unlike Alice, I don&#039;t have a college degree &lt;g&gt;. I&#039;ve never felt judged by Alice for that and I do have the perspective that society judges women with degrees who choose to stay home more harshly than those who are believed incapable of having a career anyway.  Society has deccreed that college educated women&#039;s contributions from within their homes are not as valuable as the contributions they could make outside of their homes.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Especially considering the struggles Ms. Hess Saxton so accurately describes, &quot;In the crucible of motherhood, our worst faults are exposed and (in time, and with effort) healed,&quot; one would think Ms. Hess Saxon would appreciate exactly the enormity of the decision to stay home with children, be it one or many!  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for the Proverbs 31 woman, it is entirely plausible to hold her up as a true example of a stay at home mother unless one is as narrowed minded as to believe SAHMs actually never venture out of the confines of their own homes!  Many mothers who don&#039;t have a career outside the home are in charge of the household finances, even making investment and re-investment decisions! As for securing provisions from afar?  Internet shopping fits that bill precisely!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes, this article presented an idyllic painting, as is proper for a description of an event at a party and the point of the article. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;God Bless!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sabine&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;SAHM to seven ages 17, 15, 13, 10, 7, 3, and 5 months&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, like Alice, enjoy immensely seeing my oldest and youngest children interact.  They are 17 years apart!  We also share in our gratefulness to God that we were able to have many children over a span of a decade or two, never forgetting that not all who are open to many children become parents of many!</p>
<p>I encourage Ms. Hess Saxton to read the article again because she missed the point with this remark, &quot;To categorize such women across the board as selfish, culture-bound creatures (or tragic figures who simply &quot;need the money&quot;) is simply untrue and unjustified.&quot;  It is untrue and unjustified, however, I didn&#39;t read that in this article. In one fell swoop, Alice is critised for her reaction to a friend&#39;s statement and her understanding of women who do work outside the home!  She simply relayed the friend&#39;s comment and her opinion on what prompted the remark.  Alice said, &quot;She responded as our culture has taught her&#8230;, &quot;What a waste!&quot;</p>
<p>&#8230; she meant them as a &#8230; compliment, a tribute to my &quot;worth.&quot;  &#8230;. society&#39;s pervasive notion that children should be, &#8230;., best left until prominence, profit and partnership are all checked off the to do list.  (&#8230;I am not talking about the many mothers who sacrifice for the good of their families by working outside the home, but those trapped in a spiral of unnecessary ambition, postponing the deepest joys in life.)&quot; </p>
<p>Unlike Alice, I don&#39;t have a college degree &lt;g&gt;. I&#39;ve never felt judged by Alice for that and I do have the perspective that society judges women with degrees who choose to stay home more harshly than those who are believed incapable of having a career anyway.  Society has deccreed that college educated women&#39;s contributions from within their homes are not as valuable as the contributions they could make outside of their homes.  </p>
<p>Especially considering the struggles Ms. Hess Saxton so accurately describes, &quot;In the crucible of motherhood, our worst faults are exposed and (in time, and with effort) healed,&quot; one would think Ms. Hess Saxon would appreciate exactly the enormity of the decision to stay home with children, be it one or many!  </p>
<p>As for the Proverbs 31 woman, it is entirely plausible to hold her up as a true example of a stay at home mother unless one is as narrowed minded as to believe SAHMs actually never venture out of the confines of their own homes!  Many mothers who don&#39;t have a career outside the home are in charge of the household finances, even making investment and re-investment decisions! As for securing provisions from afar?  Internet shopping fits that bill precisely!</p>
<p>Yes, this article presented an idyllic painting, as is proper for a description of an event at a party and the point of the article. </p>
<p>God Bless!</p>
<p>Sabine</p>
<p>SAHM to seven ages 17, 15, 13, 10, 7, 3, and 5 months</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I met and married my husband shortly after my 30&#039;s birthday and during our very brief courtship we also decided that if God blessed us with children I would stay home.  The comments from my colleagues started immediately....it must be nice.....you&#039;re so lucky.....you&#039;ll regret it.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now I hear the I&#039;m not better than working moms, as if I ever said I was!  Staying home was a conscious decision.  It wasn&#039;t always easy.  I missed my job and we could certainly have used the income.  Yet it was our decision and I don&#039;t regret it.  It doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t work.  Like the proverbs woman, I am in charge of our finances and the running of this household.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for the article, Alice, I also enjoy watching my oldest with my youngest :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met and married my husband shortly after my 30&#39;s birthday and during our very brief courtship we also decided that if God blessed us with children I would stay home.  The comments from my colleagues started immediately&#8230;.it must be nice&#8230;..you&#39;re so lucky&#8230;..you&#39;ll regret it&#8230;..</p>
<p>Now I hear the I&#39;m not better than working moms, as if I ever said I was!  Staying home was a conscious decision.  It wasn&#39;t always easy.  I missed my job and we could certainly have used the income.  Yet it was our decision and I don&#39;t regret it.  It doesn&#39;t mean I don&#39;t work.  Like the proverbs woman, I am in charge of our finances and the running of this household.</p>
<p>Thank you for the article, Alice, I also enjoy watching my oldest with my youngest <img src='http://catholicexchange.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mary thanks for then new picture.  I hope you took my comment with good humor!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your faithful CE reader!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s not forget that there are those who would love to have a large family- and can&#039;t. I&#039;m thinking of friends of mine. They both wanted a big family, and after their wedding, we all expected to hear that a little one was on the way in a fairly short time. It didn&#039;t happen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;After four years of marriage, they received two daughters- blood sisters, ages 9 and 3, whom they adopted from an orphanage overseas . &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another couple I know spent their 20&#039;s and 30&#039;s, not pursuing money or prominence, but trying to find the right person to marry. They didn&#039;t discover each other until both were in their late thirties, and they were both about 40 when they married. They now have two little girls, and are hoping for more, but, considering the wife&#039;s age  and less-than-easy deliveries (she ended up having C-sections), they have to take her health into account. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Small families ? yes. But as generous and open to life as I&#039;ve ever seen ! &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#39;s not forget that there are those who would love to have a large family- and can&#39;t. I&#39;m thinking of friends of mine. They both wanted a big family, and after their wedding, we all expected to hear that a little one was on the way in a fairly short time. It didn&#39;t happen.</p>
<p>After four years of marriage, they received two daughters- blood sisters, ages 9 and 3, whom they adopted from an orphanage overseas . </p>
<p>Another couple I know spent their 20&#39;s and 30&#39;s, not pursuing money or prominence, but trying to find the right person to marry. They didn&#39;t discover each other until both were in their late thirties, and they were both about 40 when they married. They now have two little girls, and are hoping for more, but, considering the wife&#39;s age  and less-than-easy deliveries (she ended up having C-sections), they have to take her health into account. </p>
<p>Small families ? yes. But as generous and open to life as I&#39;ve ever seen ! </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 02:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I appluad the author of this article, I feel sad for some of the responses.  Alice is personally reflecting on God&#039;s providence in her life, I don&#039;t feel she is making personal judgements on anyone else.  She is simply sharing our shared Catholic faith....very brave in the culture climate these days!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would also point out that it is wrong to judge her life just because she has a degree,  MANY people have a degree in law who are not rich!   Maybe she gives all to the poor,  PLEASE don&#039;t make assumptions based on intials after someones name!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appluad the author of this article, I feel sad for some of the responses.  Alice is personally reflecting on God&#39;s providence in her life, I don&#39;t feel she is making personal judgements on anyone else.  She is simply sharing our shared Catholic faith&#8230;.very brave in the culture climate these days!</p>
<p>I would also point out that it is wrong to judge her life just because she has a degree,  MANY people have a degree in law who are not rich!   Maybe she gives all to the poor,  PLEASE don&#39;t make assumptions based on intials after someones name!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;May I comment from &quot;the far side of the fence&quot;?  I married a serviceman 3 days after high school graduation and hoped for a large family (I was an &quot;only&quot;).  Our 1st child was born 15 months later.  Two miscarriages followed, and our last child was born when her sister was 7.  My husband worked hard to support our family so I could stay at home.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One day after our oldest had started kindergarden (and before the last was a twinkle in her daddy&#039;s eye), it suddenly occured to me that I&#039;d be all of 36 when she graduated from high school!  Thirty-six is just WAY too young to sit in a rocking chair and wait to die. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;  When our oldest graduated from high school, I went with her to our community college.  Granted, I didn&#039;t become a doctor or lawyer (or Indian chief, either), but I did earn a 2-yr. degree as a Medical Assistant.  I worked for about 5 years before another opportunity presented itself, and I enjoyed my work tremendously.  (I also enjoyed that other opportunity.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The one thing I didn&#039;t plan for was becoming old and disabled.  But that&#039;s another story.  My point is that there&#039;s enough room in life to do BOTH.  It&#039;s true that once you are a mother, you&#039;re a mother forever.  But it&#039;s also true that the kids grow up and take less of your time, energy and attention.  Rocking chair, anyone?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I comment from &quot;the far side of the fence&quot;?  I married a serviceman 3 days after high school graduation and hoped for a large family (I was an &quot;only&quot;).  Our 1st child was born 15 months later.  Two miscarriages followed, and our last child was born when her sister was 7.  My husband worked hard to support our family so I could stay at home.</p>
<p>One day after our oldest had started kindergarden (and before the last was a twinkle in her daddy&#39;s eye), it suddenly occured to me that I&#39;d be all of 36 when she graduated from high school!  Thirty-six is just WAY too young to sit in a rocking chair and wait to die. </p>
<p>  When our oldest graduated from high school, I went with her to our community college.  Granted, I didn&#39;t become a doctor or lawyer (or Indian chief, either), but I did earn a 2-yr. degree as a Medical Assistant.  I worked for about 5 years before another opportunity presented itself, and I enjoyed my work tremendously.  (I also enjoyed that other opportunity.)</p>
<p>The one thing I didn&#39;t plan for was becoming old and disabled.  But that&#39;s another story.  My point is that there&#39;s enough room in life to do BOTH.  It&#39;s true that once you are a mother, you&#39;re a mother forever.  But it&#39;s also true that the kids grow up and take less of your time, energy and attention.  Rocking chair, anyone?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding the picture: The editor does not do the imaging and does not know what image is chosen usually until the day the article runs, but your point is well taken and I will ask the graphic artist to change it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks and blessings,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mary Kochan, Senior Editor, Catholic Exchange&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the picture: The editor does not do the imaging and does not know what image is chosen usually until the day the article runs, but your point is well taken and I will ask the graphic artist to change it.</p>
<p>Thanks and blessings,</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give the author a lot of credit for valuing her role as a stay-at-home mother above the glamour of a career as a lawyer.  I also give her credit for acknowledging that not everyone has the choice to be a stay-at-home mother (I wish there was a better term to use!).  As someone who longs for a child, it bothers me a lot when women who could afford to stay home choose not to;  it is nice to see women who really appreciate their children.  That being said, I am the primary breadwinner in my marriage (long story), so if we are ever blessed with a child, I will have to continue working fulltime while my husband cuts back to part-time hours.  So I really empathize with women who have no choice but to work outside the home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give the author a lot of credit for valuing her role as a stay-at-home mother above the glamour of a career as a lawyer.  I also give her credit for acknowledging that not everyone has the choice to be a stay-at-home mother (I wish there was a better term to use!).  As someone who longs for a child, it bothers me a lot when women who could afford to stay home choose not to;  it is nice to see women who really appreciate their children.  That being said, I am the primary breadwinner in my marriage (long story), so if we are ever blessed with a child, I will have to continue working fulltime while my husband cuts back to part-time hours.  So I really empathize with women who have no choice but to work outside the home.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Alice doesn&#039;t have internet access right now, but it&#039;s worth mentioning that when she originally &lt;a href=&quot;http://alice.typepad.com/cottage_blessings/2007/03/retracing_my_st.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;posted this article on her blog&quot;&gt;posted this article on her blog&lt;/a&gt;, she included the following passage as an addendum:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;As I post this piece, I want to include a note to make sure it does not have the unintended effect of hurting any women or mothers who work outside the home, particularly those who strive to make a better life for their families. My reflection is meant as an affirmation that children are a greater source of joy and fulfillment than unnecessary ambition.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The post is meant to be a personal reflection on her own choice to give up practicing law when her first child was born, a choice that surprised (and continues to surprise) a lot of her former colleagues. Alice realizes that not every mother has the luxury of making the choice to stay home.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Melissa Wiley, stay-at-home homeschooling mother of five &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.melissawiley.net&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;my author blog&quot;&gt;my author blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://liltinghouse.clubmom.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;liltinghouse.clubmom.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice doesn&#39;t have internet access right now, but it&#39;s worth mentioning that when she originally <a href="http://alice.typepad.com/cottage_blessings/2007/03/retracing_my_st.html" target="_blank" title="posted this article on her blog">posted this article on her blog</a>, she included the following passage as an addendum:</p>
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<p>&quot;As I post this piece, I want to include a note to make sure it does not have the unintended effect of hurting any women or mothers who work outside the home, particularly those who strive to make a better life for their families. My reflection is meant as an affirmation that children are a greater source of joy and fulfillment than unnecessary ambition.&quot;</p>
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<p>The post is meant to be a personal reflection on her own choice to give up practicing law when her first child was born, a choice that surprised (and continues to surprise) a lot of her former colleagues. Alice realizes that not every mother has the luxury of making the choice to stay home.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Melissa Wiley, stay-at-home homeschooling mother of five </p>
<p><a href="http://www.melissawiley.net" target="_blank" title="my author blog">my author blog</a>  </p>
<p><a href="http://liltinghouse.clubmom.com" target="_blank">liltinghouse.clubmom.com</a></p>
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