Comments on: Can a Priest Change the Words in Mass Prayers? http://catholicexchange.com/2007/05/17/83714/ Catholic News, Catholic Articles, Catholic Apologetics, Catholic Content, Catholic Information Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/05/17/83714/comment-page-1/#comment-10853 Guest Thu, 17 May 2007 21:44:05 +0000 #comment-10853 <p>My beef is not allowing the person to heal and forgive the past. This is psychology of the secular nature, not of the heavenly. To avoid the mention of the word Father is to avoid accepting the Graces that come from the reconciliation that is life giving. Even if your father is your enemy, are you not commanded to love him? To forgive doesn't mean you have to forget. But it does mean you have to love.</p><p>"Do not try to please everybody. Try to please God , the angels, and the saints. These are your public. If you are afraid of other people's opinion, you should not have become Christian." St John Vianney</p> My beef is not allowing the person to heal and forgive the past. This is psychology of the secular nature, not of the heavenly. To avoid the mention of the word Father is to avoid accepting the Graces that come from the reconciliation that is life giving. Even if your father is your enemy, are you not commanded to love him? To forgive doesn't mean you have to forget. But it does mean you have to love.

"Do not try to please everybody. Try to please God , the angels, and the saints. These are your public. If you are afraid of other people's opinion, you should not have become Christian." St John Vianney

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/05/17/83714/comment-page-1/#comment-10849 Guest Thu, 17 May 2007 20:29:05 +0000 #comment-10849 <p>Jesus said to call no man "father" for we have but one "Father", Who is in heaven. He was saying that human "fatherhood" is designed to be a reflection of God.  So we are only "fathers" in as much as we reflect this reality. And in as much as we fall short, we are failing to truly be "fathers."</p><p>I would suggest that it is <em>confusing</em> to change or substitute the reference to <em>God</em> as Father.  If anything, women who have been so badly hurt might refer to their biological <em>dads</em> as their "male parent" and preserve the word "father" to use, as Jesus said, for the reality of God as our loving "Father" in heaven.</p><p>If the shadow distorts the reality of the real thing which it is imaging, we should not change the how we describe the real thing.  We should, if anything, change the way we describe the shadow.</p> Jesus said to call no man "father" for we have but one "Father", Who is in heaven. He was saying that human "fatherhood" is designed to be a reflection of God.  So we are only "fathers" in as much as we reflect this reality. And in as much as we fall short, we are failing to truly be "fathers."

I would suggest that it is confusing to change or substitute the reference to God as Father.  If anything, women who have been so badly hurt might refer to their biological dads as their "male parent" and preserve the word "father" to use, as Jesus said, for the reality of God as our loving "Father" in heaven.

If the shadow distorts the reality of the real thing which it is imaging, we should not change the how we describe the real thing.  We should, if anything, change the way we describe the shadow.

]]> By: Guest http://catholicexchange.com/2007/05/17/83714/comment-page-1/#comment-10826 Guest Thu, 17 May 2007 16:38:05 +0000 #comment-10826 <p>Those who have been hurt by their biological fathers have a unfulfilled need for a loving father, a father who's love is unconditional, who will always be there and will always love them.   </p><p>Avoiding the normal and natural hurt caused by abuse to the extent of avoiding talking about loving fathers is not going to help these women heal.  How is a woman to heal and achieve a loving relationship, with God (and the possible relationship with her husband and father of her children) while avoiding the Fatherly love that she is offered?   </p> Those who have been hurt by their biological fathers have a unfulfilled need for a loving father, a father who's love is unconditional, who will always be there and will always love them.  

Avoiding the normal and natural hurt caused by abuse to the extent of avoiding talking about loving fathers is not going to help these women heal.  How is a woman to heal and achieve a loving relationship, with God (and the possible relationship with her husband and father of her children) while avoiding the Fatherly love that she is offered?  

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