Enemies of the Human Race

Rad FemRadical pro-choice rhetoric attacks the most basic facts of our human existence: that the human body comes in two different but complementary types, male and female. They cannot forgive women who embrace femininity rather than neuter themselves.

They were out in force at the San Francisco Walk for Life, the couple hundred pro-abortion leftists protesting the fifty thousand of us who came to walk for life. The “Stop Patriarchy” group met us at 5th and Market Street, carrying signs saying, “Abortion on Demand and Without Apology.”

You might think a group like this is so radical that they don’t matter. But looking closely at radicals helps us see the root of a set of ideas, ideas held by more mainstream people who appear less threatening. Considering Stop Patriarchy’s rhetorical strategy also reveals how such an irrational set of ideas has advanced so far. They lead with something unobjectionable, and then segue into something far more sinister.

Their website reveals that they attack pornography. So far, so good. (If you do visit their website, be advised: I have edited out some of the more vulgar phrases in my quotations.) Here’s an excerpt:

In recent years, pornography has become increasingly violent, cruel, degrading towards women; . . . Meanwhile, the broader culture has been pornified: pole dancing is taught at gyms, “sexting” is a national phenomenon among teens, and the strip club is the accepted backdrop to “male bonding.” All this is tied in with, and reinforces, the trafficking of millions of women and girls as literal chattel in the international sex industry.

This is NOT society becoming more comfortable with sex. This is society becoming saturated with the sexualized degradation of women. (emphasis in original)

Pornography degrades women. I can go along with that. Every serious Catholic and Christian I know can go along with that. John Paul II would go along with that. In fact, he said, “the problem with pornography is not that it shows too much of a human person, but that it shows too little.” I know Mormons and Evangelicals who are working to put a stop to the degradation of women through the pornography industry and sex trafficking.

The Stop Patriarchy people are quite correct to condemn pornography and to work to end it. This is the unobjectionable, even noble, first move. The next move is more questionable.

A Christian fundamentalist-driven assault is imperiling abortion, birth control, real sex education and women’s lives. Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered (LGBT) people who do not conform to traditional patriarchal gender and sexual norms are demonized and threatened. Abortion doctors are killed. Women who seek abortions—or even birth control—are stigmatized. 2011 saw the largest spate of legal restrictions on abortion since Roe v. Wade in 1973.

ALL THIS MUST BE STOPPED!

Fetuses are not babies. Women are not incubators. Abortion is not murder. (emphasis in original)

A world without abortion is in their minds the equivalent of a world saturated with pornography. The people at Stop Patriarchy do not seem to realize that the promise of sex without babies is one of the biggest cultural tailwinds pushing the whole pornography industry along. Where would pornographers be without contraception and legal abortion?

The presence of a new baby or a pregnant woman would certainly mess up the storyline (I use the term loosely) of the typical porn film. Outside the porn industry, contraception with abortion as a backup delivers women to men for their use. Separating sex from conception removes constraints and responsibilities from men, and invites them to use women as objects. This is just as Paul VI predicted in Humanae Vitae, back in 1968.

I cannot recall a single one of the fifty thousand of us at the San Francisco Walk for Life saying or implying that “women are incubators.” No one in the “Patriarchy” of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church refers to women in such degrading terms. Only the members of Stop Patriarchy demean women in this way.

Here is the “money quote,” where Stop Patriarchy pivots from promoting something entirely unobjectionable (the end of pornography) to something entirely destructive.

Women are not objects. Women are not things to be used for the sexual pleasure of men NOR are they breeders of children. WOMEN ARE HUMAN BEINGS CAPABLE OF FULL EQUALITY IN EVERY REALM! (emphasis in original)

These lines give a window into the soul of the Stop Patriarchy movement. Their claim here is that being “breeders of children” is the opposite of “women are human beings capable of full equality in every realm!” The term “breeder” is a term of degradation, a demeaning term, a term that says that mothers are somehow less than fully equal with men, or with other women. Being a mere “breeder” keeps us women from “full equality in every realm.”

Once you actually analyze it, this is an astounding thought.

The simple honest-to-goodness truth is that men and women are different. Giving birth to a child highlights the differences between men and women. Men and women do not become parents in the same way. Men and women feel differently about parenthood, and do parenthood differently. Motherhood has a different impact on women than fatherhood has on men.

These differences, generated by our bodies, in how we experience parenthood are among the most basic facts about our species. But, in the minds of Stop Patriarchy, these very differences between men and women are themselves injustices.

We can see now why this type of leftist is always so angry. It is impossible for them to achieve their objectives. They are always frustrated. We can see now, also, why they are never satisfied, no matter how many benefits they obtain for women, no matter how revolutionary the changes they obtain. In their minds, even a ten-dollar copay for contraception is the residue of the cosmic conspiracy against women’s “humanity” and their “full equality in every realm.”

It is completely bizarre to treat motherhood as the moral equivalent of rape or pornography. Yet that is exactly the parallel that Stop Patriarchy sets up in its rhetoric and its demands. In their minds, being a “breeder of children”–a sneering synonym for women’s natural ability to bring new life into the world—is somehow the same as being a “thing to be used for the pleasure of men.”

Stop Patriarchy’s ultimate problem is not really with capitalism or even with violence. Their problem is with the human body. They resent the fact that the human body comes in two different but complementary types, male and female. They are angry that childbearing impacts men and women differently. They resent every social structure and every human feeling that depends on the male-female differentiation. They cannot forgive women like me, who embrace femininity rather than neuter themselves at their urging.

This is why it is correct to identify them as revolutionaries. They are in revolt against the embodied nature of the human person. They hate sexual differentiation, maleness and femaleness.

Male and female are two equally beautiful but different ways of being human. If we lose our ability to fully embrace our manhood or our womanhood, we lose our ability to be human.

Make no mistake about it. An attack on sexual differentiation is an attack on the human body. An attack on the human body is an attack on the human race.

But the people of Stop Patriarchy cannot stop themselves. Once convinced of their opening premise, they have no choice but to try to suppress all the differences between men and women. Everything that has to do with reproduction must be suppressed or neutralized.

The goal is clear: The only good woman is a neutered woman. The only good man is a gay man, who poses no sexual threat to women. The only good child is a chosen child. They do not seem to realize that this commodifies the child, making him or her an object to obtain if we want one, and a problem to solve if we don’t want one. Nor do they seem to realize that today’s young people intuit this, which is why so many of the Walkers for Life carried signs saying, “I am the Pro-Life Generation.”

We may be tempted to “click away” from Stop Patriarchy and ignore them as obviously deluded people who shouldn’t be taken seriously. But that would be a mistake. For this very same thought pattern lies behind the HHS contraceptive mandate and the War on Women rhetoric promoted by the political party now in power. And the party out of power seems either unwilling or unable to confront the ideology for what it is: the ideology of a totalitarian movement, bent on denying and wiping out the most basic facts of our human experience.

We should cut no slack, give no quarter, concede no ground, to these enemies of the human race. Not out of politeness, nor out of courtesy, and certainly, not out of fear. Ignoring people because they are irrational has probably been one of our biggest tactical mistakes. Though Stop Patriarchy’s irrationality makes them hard to argue with, they are deadly serious, and we need to be as well.

 

This article was previously published at The Ruth Institute. Please visit their site.

Jennifer Morse

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Jennifer Roback Morse, Ph.D. is the Founding President of the Ruth Institute, an educational organization promoting lifelong married love to college students and young adults. She thanks Mr. Austin Muck, her 2011 Blackstone Legal Fellowship intern, for his assistance with the legal research on "In re M.C."

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  • DaveMontrose

    Matthew 5:44

  • Clement_W

    Dr. Roback – I enthusiastically agree with “We should cut no slack, give no quarter, concede no ground, to these enemies of the human race.” But we should also consider the history of the disease and the prescription to be really effective.

    1. 1 Samuel 8 – the whole chapter

    2. Matthew 5:44 and 5:45

    3. Book of Jonah – all of it.

  • zola98

    Dr. Morse should concentrate on the children who are already born and are going hungry, homeless, being abused ie sexually, emotionally, physically,murdered etc. You and your ilk have no right to determine how other women should define their body. We as adults, with a mind and a conscience must make decisions that are comfortable for us as humans and individuals. This attack on women and telling women what they can and cannot do with their bodies including their reproduction is repugnant and insulting to say the least. Get you nose out of our vaginas and uterus’.

  • James H, London

    The problem with arguing against drunks, madmen and the stupid is that they drag you down to your level and beat you on experience. I fully agree that these nutjobs should be opposed at every turn, but I don’t think I need to tell Dr Morse how damaging that is… but, like she says, it has to be done.

  • aw

    excellent!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrea.abate.58118 Andrea Abate

    Oh, Zola98, it’s too bad you couldn’t actually respond to any points in the artical. Too bad you are stuck on the same talking points. Oh, btw, if you don’t want people “in your vagina”, then don’t ask me to pay for your birth control and abortion, m’kay? According to you, that’s a private choice, so it should be privately funded as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lindy.ill Lindy Ill

    @zola98: Did you think up your comment by yourself or are you mindlessly parrotting the cliche-worn excuses of the 60′s and 70′s?

    The baby that is growing inside her mother is an innocent being who is the result of the natural biological function of sexual intercourse. The adults who willingly engaged in this act are responsible for the creation of a new human life, and have the duty to care for and nurture this helpless child, at least till she is born and can be adopted, if the adults don’t want the natural fruit of their actions.

    As for neglecting already born children. That phony excuse has lost its appeal, Zola. It’s the very pro-life community, usually affiliated with the Church, who help the poor and less fortunate. You remind me of Judas Iscariot, who complained that a woman was using expensive aromatic ointment while anointing Jesus, “This ointment could be sold for a hundred denarii and given to the poor”. Judas said this, not because he cared for the poor, but because he held the purse and was a thief”.

    I doubt very much your “concern” for the hungry and homeless, zola. You’ll say anything to justify the savage murder of innocent preborn people. P.S. A separate human being residing in his mother’s womb is NOT HER BODY! Biology 101, in case you missed it.

  • zola98

    No one is asking you to pay for BC pills or Abortions. Ones health insurance covers those costs. Stop with the Fox Lies and Fools propaganda. All Health Insurance Plans should/must include coverage of the pill as well as abortion much like they cover Viagra and Ciallis, ligation of the vas deferens(men) for birth control and other drugs men use to get it up and keep it up. It’s a woman’s right to choose, it her body which is the underlying fact here. No man or woman should make decisions about women’s reproductive system, that’s the point. Where do we stop in denying citizens their rights to liberty and freedom and choices.

  • zola98

    First off it’s a fetus not a baby. A new born is a baby, one who can exist/survive outside the mother’s womb. And of course you make no cencessions for the woman or child who is raped, or for the mother whose life may be in danger due to the pregnancy. Spare me the bs about Judas Iscariot who has no place in this conversation, it’s downright dumb using him as an analogy, there’s no correlation here. It’s the woman’s choice, she alone knows whether she(and her family) can afford to have another child. BTW, most abortions are done on married women, not single women as most of you seem to think. Accidents do happen. I suppose you’re against birth control also. That separate being you state residing in a woman’s body is also a parasite who could not survive without the mother’s nourishment etc. You need to redo Biology. Yeah, we were all parasites in our mother’s womb, face the facts. The fetus does not belong to you or the rest of the world, but to the woman who is carry it.

  • RoodAwakening

    No, Zola, a woman’s body is NOT her own, any more than a man’s is his own. Each woman’s body belongs to her Creator, Who has loaned it to her for a time. Someday, she must return it, AND give account for what she has done with it…like it, or not, or believe it, or not. Similarly, the same is true of the bodies of the children who may be nurtured within it, from time to time.

    RE: Fetus

    fe·tus [fee-tuhs] noun, plural fe·tus·es. Embryology.
    (used chiefly of viviparous mammals) the young of an animal in the womb or egg, especially in the later stages of development when the body structures are in the recognizable form of its kind, in humans after the end of the second month of gestation.

    Dictionary.com Unabridged
    Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2013.
    ————————–
    Word Origin & History

    fetus

    late 14c., from L. fetus “the bearing, bringing forth, or hatching of young,” from L. base *fe- “to generate, bear,” also “to suck, suckle” (see fecund). In L., this was sometimes transferred figuratively to the newborn creature itself, or used in a sense of “offspring, brood” (cf. “Germania quos horrida parturit fetus,” Horace), but this was not the basic meaning.

    Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper

    ————————

    Both entries obviously say “baby.” I suspect all other authoritative sources do, as well. It’s YOUR perceptions, Zola, which have been manipulated and warped by what you’ve chosen to “feed” them.

  • zola98

    The medical term is fetus..no Doctor refers to an unborn as a baby, but a fetus,note even parents us the term ‘it’ to refer to what’s in the womb. The fetus, once expelled from the womb is referred to as a New Born female or male. I worked in Hospitals for many years, I know what I’m talking about.
    Yes, our bodies belong to us, our souls belong to God. Dust to dust, ashes to ashes refer to our physical body. When we die, our soul leaves our physical body which decays. Our body is a shell that holds our soul.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joeahargrave Joe Hargrave

    Oh Dr. Morse…

    “Where would pornographers be without contraception and legal abortion?”

    This is a perfectly reasonable question designed to promote logical and consistent thought. Haven’t you heard that rationality and logic are part of the patriarchal power structure? Stop trying to make sense. That’s oppressive. Don’t you see? You’re creating a hierarchy between logically consistent positions and bat-s**t insanity, and that’s a form of aggression and imperialism.

  • ve67

    you’re right zola98…it’s called a fetus by the scientific world..because they don’t want to admit that it’s a creation of God…God says” I knew you before you were born” to me that means that we are not parasites but a human being waiting to enter into the world. And as for your remark that the soul returns to God,,and the body decays..your are also right..but at the Last Judgement…our bodies will be reunited with our souls…and we will either be with God for all eternity or with Satan in hell for all eternity…and guess what? we make our choice here on earth while we are alive, by the way we live and treat each other…and this includes the incarnated human..(not a fetus or a parasite)

  • Philomena

    The plight of children already born has no relevance to the issue of whether abortion is murder or not. The unborn is not a parasite because parasites are a different species than their host. The unborn is a genetically distinct human from the moment of conception; science and DNA testing has proven this certainly and only a blithering idiot would deny that, but I can understand you not wanting to research this topic.
    Humans have a right to life, wouldn’t you agree? You have the right to not being stabbed to death by me, don’t you? So, zola, how do you justify killing an innocent human being? What makes killing a human inside the uterus good but outside (where it still must rely soley on another human – regardless of how convenient or fun it is – to survive) is bad. You shriek for others to embrace infanticide because you cannot morally or logically defend a woman murdering an innocent person for her own happiness.

  • zola98

    Yes, we are parasites living in our mother’s womb, as a fetus we depend solely on her nutrition for our health, we are attached to her thru the umbilical cord where we as fetus’ get all we require to sustain ourselves until we’re expelled from the womb. It’s just a fact. I will give you points on the rest of your post. Thnks for the reminder. Also keep in mind, we all were given free choice by God and as Jesus Christ said quite clearly, judge not or you will be judged more severely. It’s a woman’s decision and between her, her mate, her Doctor and God, no one else, that’s my belief. You are entitled to your belief and I respect you for it but you must also respect other’s rights and beliefs even if they don’t coincide with yours. That’s Democracy, liberty and freedom for all. Unless you would prefer living under a Taliban/Theocracy regime which I don’t. Where does it end, next R’thug politicians will be declaring women are inferior and non human as they did centuries ago, we loose the right to vote, to work for a living, an education. Did you know that a group of Canadian women actually went to England to demand that England acknowledge them as human beings, prior to that women in Canada had no rights, same applied to women in the US. We must have the freedom to make our own choices and maintain our freedoms. Once we give up even one, we’re doomed.

  • Richard III

    Can men and women make choices about MEN’s reproductive systems?

  • Richard III

    Are fetuses expelled through certain abortion procedures referred to as male or female?

  • zola98

    Put a sock in it philomena. Yes, as a fetus we are parasites as we depend on the mother for our sustenance thru the umbilical cord, we cannot survive without that cord. I worked in the health field for decades, I know all about DNA/Chromosomes etc. thank you. You cannot decide for any woman, you don’t know her circumstances so don’t judge, it’s not your place to push your beliefs on anyone. No one is forcing you to have an abortion, it’s an individual’s choice and is none of your or anyone elses business btw. It’s a private matter for the woman to decide what’s best for her and her family. If we women give up on this freedom to choose, watch and see how many other freedoms and liberties we will be forced to give up. Men are trying to oppres and suppres us as they once did. This isn’t about abortion but getting us under their control once again. These R’thugs hate our freedoms, our independence etc. Feel free to give up all you have gained thanks to the brave women who fought, suffered and died for our liberties but most of us will fight to to retain what we have gained.

  • Richard III

    Thanks, Dr. Morse. Great article.

  • zola98

    Richard, somehow I don’t think the R’thug hypocrites would go for that. Good question though am not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but I truly didn’t give it much thought as these laws are focussed on women. I do wonder why these men don’t ask men to accept their responsibilities as it takes two to make a baby. Condoms, Viagra, Ciallis or ligation for men as a BC method are never discussed, why is that, do you think? Yet they want to deny women to right to BC pills.

  • zola98

    No, never heard of the gender being identified, even for miscarriages and I have worked in the health care field for decades. I think most abortions are perfored before the 20 week cut off. Anyway, I have never seen it noted in the medical record.

  • Philomena

    Thank you. Ladies, gentlemen, and murderers, I present to you: How to Justify Abortion.
    1. You can’t.
    2. Quick! change the subject to oppressed women and maybe no one will notice.

    Answer my questions, zola, or admit you have nothing to your argument but rah-rah rhetoric, appeals to emotion, and a slippery slope bordering on paranoia (“those ebil menz!”). From dictionary.com: “1. An organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.” A fetus is not a parasite; he/she is a human. Try harder.
    As you suggested in another response, denying that someone is a human being is wrong and damaging. Men and governments don’t have the authority to determine who is a human. Nor do women possess such power. God, and through his creation, nature, declare the truth plainly.
    Maybe you actually do support slaughtering innocent humans for your convenience; at least then you’d have a more solid, though morally bankrupt, foundation from which to argue. A unique human life begins at the moment of conception. Humans have an inalienable right to life. Therefore, killing a fetus is murder. Abortion kills fetuses. Therefore, abortion is murder. Logic ain’t so hard, is it, zola?

  • Victoria

    It does no good to argue with people, like zola, who maintain the pro-choice position. It -makes perfect sense in their minds. Only the Holy Spirit can flood light into their minds and spirits and open their eyes to the truth. I used to be pro-choice and was prepared to have an abortion if necessary, as the responsible thing to do. Only God can tap someone on the shoulder and say, By the way, your thinking is off course here.

    We need to pray for these people, since they are so blind that they don’t see that abortion makes it easier for men to use women without repercussions.

    Lord, please open Zola’s heart to your compassion and mercy for the unborn, in Christ’s name.

  • Manny

    For zola98: You are fortunate you were not aborted by your mother.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bev.diemler Bev Diemler

    Look at what you just said my dear zola…. “she and her family know whether they can afford to have another child”. If we follow your logic, it is okay to kill your baby if you “think” you cannot afford it. So then, why don’t you just try to convince families that are poor, homeless, have an abusive parent, drug and alcohol problems etc that they should just kill their children so then there won’t be any hungry or sad or homeless children in the world. Let’s just try to create our own world where there are only “perfect people” Were you a fan of the holocost in Germany as well? Did you applaud the holocost in Rwanda? It is all the same thing Zola. Do you think it is okay to take puppies and smash their heads when they come out if you don’t want them, zola? How far do you go with this line of thought? Is there anything that you wouldn’t kill?

  • Richard III

    Pro-Life men and women don’t want women to have BC pills because birth control violates the natural order of both children and women. It violates children because it prevents the conception of babies and sometimes kills babies shortly after conception, and it fuels the idea of children being commodities like cars or steak or iPads or whatever and that they can be “had” if and when wanted and prevented or disposed of like garbage if not wanted.

    Contraception also violates the nature of women because it treats her gift of fertility like a disease (the reproductive system is the ONLY system in the human body that has drugs prescribed for it when it’s functioning properly, other systems are only treated when something is wrong), puts her at risk for all kinds of health problems, may prevent her from being able to have children later when she wants to, and, finally, contraception and abortion are big tempting invitations for lustful men to abuse women and treat them like objects. It is much easier for a rapist or other pervert to do his thing if the “evidence” (read “baby”) is not only destroyed, but is destroyed at the hands of his primary victim, the woman (the baby, if there is one, is the secondary victim).

    Pushing more condoms or Viagra for men won’t fix that either. It’ll only make the male scoundrels even more brazen and dirty than before. I think the reason we don’t hear more discussion of birth control for men is because the doings of these scoundrels provide a not insignificant part of the abortion/contraception industry’s paychecks, so they’re not too keen on stopping them completely. To be brief, most Planned Parenthood workers care more about money than about anybody’s health, and those that don’t have been lied to.

    The Pro-Life movement wants men and women to use self-control, not birth-control. Self-Control is not always easy or fun, but it is always worth it. Self-control makes sure that men, women, and children are all regarded with love, respect, and dignity, has no harmful side effects, and, when exercised, never fails. If more people used self-control to save sex until marriage, avoided adulterous situations after marriage, and used Natural Family Planning instead of chemicals, there would be more strong, lasting marriages, less STDs, more children in stable, healthy homes, and much lower chances of women being used and/or children in bad situations. Pro-Lifers don’t want to suppress or deny anybody, they want to help and strengthen everybody.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558686316 Kathleen Wagner

    Oh, dear. That picture looks depressingly like it was taken at Yale.

  • Steve

    @ Philomena. Thank you for your eloquence. I was thinking to simply dismiss Zola as a typical bitter, Godless, man-hating, vitriol-spewing liberal extremist, but your words were much more poignant. One thing I noted about her description of a parasite was that, as a fetus, “it” would be unable to survive without nourishment from it’s maternal host. Well, I’m no doctor, but I don’t think many newly born “babies” that could either. Does this cancel their status as human?

  • Peter Nyikos

    Quite right, Steve. If zola wants to play the parasite game, she should go the whole hog and say that a breastfeeding baby is an “external parasite.” [Yes, that is a biological term also.] Does this mean that the decision to let a breastfeeding baby live is a personal decision for the mother (zola would prefer to say “the woman,” of course) to make? I leave it up to zola to provide her answer. I think the rest of us know the right answer.

  • Peter Nyikos

    Zola, I wish I had a dollar for every time your kind repeats these myths about proper terminology. The following is taken from the Medline encyclopedia on “baby”:

    Weeks 9 to 12 of gestation; weeks 11 to 14 of pregnancy

    The head makes up nearly half of the baby’s size.
    The baby can make a fist with its fingers.
    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002398.htm
    A service of the U.S. National Library of Medicine
    National Institutes of Health

    And, for good measure, read this:

    “ella can harm an unborn baby”
    http://www.drugs.com/ella.html

  • Peter Nyikos

    The most hateful comment I ever read on the internet was made by a crone in San Francisco who is an abortion rights fanatic and regularly refers to mothers as “breeders”. Perhaps she was among the counter-demonstrators that day.

    Her comment, — no, I will not repeat it here –wished terrible mayhem and death on pro-life men and women, and singled out for special barbarism a woman contributor to the forum who never retaliated with nasty words no matter how viciously this crone attacked her. It dramatically illustrated how “turning the other cheek” has no effect on people devoid of a conscience.

  • That Was Then

    New borns do not magically become human beings when they exit their mother’s bodies; they were separate human beings all along, with their own beating hearts, working brains,circulatory systems, bodies, etc. That is what the science posters in my doctor’s office claimed. That is what I learned in high school biology.

    “Similar to his argument for abortion, Peter Singer [Australian philosopher] argues that newborns lack
    the essential characteristics of personhood—”rationality, autonomy, and
    self-consciousness”[26]—and therefore “killing a newborn baby is never equivalent to killing a person, that is, a being who wants to go on living.””

  • Poppiexno

    Sadly, it’s nearly fruitless to try to convince the likes of zola98. So OK zola98, you and your kind go ahead and have your abortions and your contrceptives but you pay for them. Don’t ask me to pay for them. But, you will probably reply, the insurance company or the government will pay. Where do you think the insurance company gets it’s funds? Where do you think the government gets its funds? From subscribers and taxpayers like me!
    You talk about not forcing women; but Obamacare is trying to FORCE individuals and companies to fund practices that violate their concience. What about that force! Show me where in the Constitution – not in egregious court decisions – that you have a right to use my money to do something that I find immoral.

  • Dropofclearwqter

    You have to go vulgar don’t you. That is your only retaliation. Pout like a spoiled child and swear. Your conscience is severely lacking. Read something truthful and develop a well formed conscience, and quit being a foul mouth.

  • Dropofclearwqter

    What is a fetus exactly?
    Wikipedia:
    fetus, noun.
    an ultrasonic photo of the fetus: embryo, unborn baby/child.

    My sister was raped and had an abortion. She regretted that decision until the day she died from breast cancer. Estrogen fed breast cancer is a statistical development from having an abortion. She mourned that she, a mother, had perpetrated a crime against her child. She mourned for this loss more than she mourned the criminal act committed against her.
    I can understand this. I was raped at the age of 16 by two ‘so called’ men. I am over it and can live my life. I am so glad that I don’t have to accuse myself of adding to this criminal act, by having an abortion.
    My sister’s child was hers as much as it was the rapists. The baby boy carried her genetic lineage. But my sister didn’t see this when she was in crisis.
    It is time we really helped women who have been raped, by leading them to the truth of who that child is. A person independent of the rapist. The child is not a weapon or a disease, but a human, who had no willing participation in the rape.
    This is how we help women.
    A recent study out of New Zealand confirms that abortion leads to more mental health issues than not having an abortion and giving birth. Despite abortion being available for women with mental health issues.
    Why compound mental health issues, and this includes the trauma of rape, with more mental health issues. Have women not suffered enough?

  • Dropofclearwqter

    Regressive mentality. This is what they did in Roman times and earlier. Kill the children because they weren’t wanted. Get your mindset off the anti-man bandwagon for a minute and look at the child. If all you ‘abortionist/murderers’ really don’t want children, then stop having sex. Simple. Close your legs. That’s where your choice starts and ends. Taking another persons life is never a ‘choice’ It is murder. It is murder. It is murder. Admit to what you truly support. Embrace it for what it is. And then dare look the children in their eyes and say you wanted this. Dare to look at even the dead children, and say this is what you wanted for them. That they deserve their limbs ripped from their bodies. They deserve the destruction and dehumanizing of their being. Your mentality is nothing more than the mentality of a rapist.

  • Dropofclearwqter

    Who do you think pays for this health insurance that has been mandated by the government? It is me and all the other taxpayers. It isn’t free.

  • Richard III

    Amen! So sorry to hear what happened to you and your sister, Dropofclearwqter, but thank you for sharing your story. Innocent babies should never have to suffer for the dirty deeds of their unworthy fathers.

  • Dropofclearwqter

    Not true. My obgyn told me about my ‘baby’ and how he/she was growing. He didn’t say your fetus is……whatever)…. he said baby.

  • bunnygirl

    “They cannot forgive women like me, who embrace femininity rather than neuter themselves at their urging”,
    so they told you that directly or is that an assumption?
    And why is femininity so narrowly defined?
    Did you understand that you only NEUTER males?
    Did they burn the “non-feminine” women during the inquisition?
    No offense, but how can a church that has deliberately covered up so many pedophile priests really be that concerned about children’s welfare?
    Or is it really about CONTROL?

  • bunnygirl

    The interesting thing about this is that the “creator” gave us free choice , people who want to take that choice away, are setting themselves higher than the “creator”..

    BTW for those interested, cancer (if the China Study is correct) is actually turned on or exacerbated by eating animal flesh and animal protein, casein in milk being especially problematic.
    Interestingly, many early church fathers report that the apostles were vegetarian..but that is another conversation

    Returning to the actual point, Vulture Capitalism that we are experiencing now in the US (and increasingly worldwide, ), is actually the twisted stepchild of the protestant work ethic. Here in the US, we already have a system in which HUMANS ARE COMMODOTIES.

    Increasingly the US uses its military and its economic fist to slam countries into poverty, and the women and children are the ones who suffer the most.

    Take a look at the long list of CIA atrocities setting up death squads, overthrowing elected heads of state..among other things All in the name of PROFIT, blood for money.
    this is the face of patriarchy:
    http://www.atrocities.net/

    This is one of the reasons many of us chose to not have children. Why would you sacrifice another human being to this mindless evil soul destroying system?

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