Will the Boy Scouts Give In?

Say it isn’t so! Not the Boy Scouts. I couldn’t believe it. I didn’t want to believe it. I opened my e-mail and found an urgent request from the Family Research Council to call the Boy Scouts. http://www.frc.org/alert/breaking-news-will-the-boy-scouts-stand-up-to-bullies The Boy Scouts were “considering” revising their policy of allowing active homosexuals to participate as scouts and leaders.

A statement released from the national leadership of the Boy Scouts stated they were “discussing potentially removing the national membership restriction regarding sexual orientation.”  They were going to defer membership requirements to local groups.

What are the contributing factors to the Boy Scouts considering caving into the demands of homosexual activists and media pressure? Certainly media hype surrounding two cases last year were major contributors. One story concerned Ryan Andresen, who was denied his Eagle Scout badge because he considers himself homosexual. http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/06/was-a-boy-scout-denied-an-award-because-hes-gay/

In another incident, den leader Jennifer Tyrrell was asked to leave because she is a lesbian.

Both Ryan’s mom and Jennifer Tyrrell generated petitions with large numbers of signatures to change the policy. Never mind that in both instances, they were fully aware of the Boy Scouts policy, but wielded pressure on the organization to change its policy for them. And never mind that the media pushing the homosexual agenda totally omitted the fact that Andresen did not want to take the scout Oath because he did not agree to Duty to God. “This scout proactively notified his unit leadership and Eagle Scout counselor that he does not agree to scouting’s principle of ‘Duty to God’ and does not meet scouting’s membership standard on sexual orientation,” Deron Smith, a spokesman for the organization said in a statement. “Agreeing to do one’s ‘Duty to God’ is a part of the scout Oath and Law and a requirement of achieving the Eagle Scout rank” (My underlining). http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/10/05/162371701/teenage-boy-scout-denied-organizations-top-rank-because-hes-gay

In addition to distorting the facts about the Andresen case, the mainstream media is also disregarding a story about two prominent national board members, Ernst & Young CEO James Turley and AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson, who are actively seeking to change the Boy Scouts long standing policy. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/james-turley-boy-scouts-gay-ban_n_1593595.html

Oddly enough, at the same time last year that members and leaders were petitioning for homosexuals to join the Boy Scouts, the Los Angeles Times released a disturbing story about sexual abuse within the Boy Scouts. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-boyscouts-20120805-m,0,5822319.story

Of course, the liberal media was quick to point out that homosexuals are not pedophiles, while never answering the question of when does a boy become a man—when he hits puberty or hits 18 or 21. What is the magical age?

Boy Scouts 4What really might be prompting the Boy Scouts to reconsider their policy is money. Last year with all the controversy swirling around the Boy Scouts not allowing homosexuals to participate, United Way as well as companies that offered corporate support in the past pulled their funding, financially hurting the Boy Scouts.

While some people might say, “What’s the big deal? Homosexuals are nice people”. The issue is not whether or not homosexuals are nice people.

The real issue is the consequences of this decision. Why do homosexuals want to join the Boy Scouts? No one is required to join the Boy Scouts. Why should they really care? Once the Boy Scouts cave in, then homosexual activists will push for the next step. If the Boy Scouts allow homosexuals to participate, are the Boy Scouts legitimizing homosexual behavior? If you legitimize a deviant behavior is the deviant behavior then acceptable? Is it then acceptable for Boy Scout leaders to discuss deviant behavior as the new normal? Are those who disagree with that behavior than considered not normal? Is it then acceptable to bully those who oppose homosexual activities? Homosexual activists already bash Christians. Just read the comments on the stories covering this topic. And if it is okay to discuss homosexual behavior as acceptable–just a lifestyle choice that young people should explore– is it then acceptable to engage in those activities?

Oh, how soon we forget. Not that long ago homosexuality was listed by the American Psychiatric Association and American Psychological Association as a mental illness. There were and in a few cases still are laws against sodomy. Why? It was a protection of society. People don’t want to admit what homosexuality is—a deviant behavior. People no longer understand natural law.  If the Boy Scouts allow homosexuals to join, they will be living a lie, because they will no longer be able to live their scout oath.

Scout Oath

On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

Elizabeth Yank

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  • Wayne G. Fischer

    Yep – as I thought: first they want anyone of *any* sexual “persuasion” admitted, then they’ll want God booted out…

  • Nick

    As I’m trying to discern this issue, I come back to the question of the “morally straight” point of the scout law. We (Catholics) can all agree that homosexual behavior is not in line with this and as such they aren’t, currently, allowed in scouting. But what of adulterers? Are divorced and remarried parents allowed to be leaders? Would they not lead my son in a morally acceptable way? What of sexually active heterosexual boys. I knew many in my troop, in my misspent youth, who were sexually active. Are they to be dismissed too? Or is this issue only because bylaws specifically call out homosexuality? Still trying to figure it out.

  • Nick

    oops I meant scout oath. Any good eagle scout should know the difference between the oath and law

  • Wayne G. Fischer

    …and come to think of it, what about *gender* discrimination? Shouldn’t girls be admitted to the Boy Scouts…and, oh yeah, shouldn’t boys should be admitted tot he Girl Scouts?

    [Quite right, Nick, only "those without sin" should be admitted in any role...]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eugene-Edward-Yeo/1163041810 Eugene Edward Yeo

    The boy scouts is a civil, not a religious organization. With this understanding, it is none of the organization’s business what the youths’ orientation may be. While I can see some concern as to leadership being homosexual, BSA policy requires “two deep” leadership. That is, two leaders must be present at all times. The boys may not be left alone with any one adult. Not only that, but your concerns about discussing homosexuality as the new norm are unfounded. We aren’t the Girl Scouts. We don’t discuss gender identity, sexual preference or any of that nonsense. Those topics are personal, and are up to the family to discuss.

    It occurs to me that the Boy Scouts is just the place we should be wanting to see gay young men. Perhaps they’re missing those positive male role models that are so important to developing a healthy gender identity. Perhaps they don’t have positive male interactions and have developed unhealthy attractions.

    Frankly, I’m rather disappointed at seeing this from a catholic source. Your line of “reasoning” has somehow gone from allowing a group of boys who really need positive experiences join a group which fosters teamwork, moral judgement and upright behaviour to encouraging the bullying of straight Christians.

    No, I’ll say it. Shame on you. This is why people think we’re extremists. This is why the liberal left can throw the idea that we hate homosexuals around with impunity. This is why people look at us wondering if we follow the God who told us to love one another.

    Eugene Yeo
    NESA 1999
    Assistant Adviser, Venture Crew 1862

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.p.murphy William P Murphy

    Do the adulterers or sexually active boys use the Scouts to line up sex partners or use the Scouts to advocate their behavior?

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.p.murphy William P Murphy

    Why does it matter if the Boy Scouts are a civil not religious organization?

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.p.murphy William P Murphy

    Eugene you whole comment is strange: “we hate homosexuals” is n’t a childish argument to accuse anyone who disagrees with you of hating you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Johnny-Ward/100002466030200 Johnny Ward

    / Bravo Elizabeth. Here is a little snippet I found while webbing. Enjoy. /

    Jesus stated in Luke 17 that just before His return to earth as Judge,
    two big “crazes” will happen worldwide at the same time: (1) insane
    violence (“days of Noah”), and (2) outrageous sexual perversion (“days
    of Lot” – see Gen. 19). Aren’t beheadings, cannibalism, and school
    shootings violent? And what’s more perverted than a mob trying to rape
    LITERAL angels (see Gen. 19 again)?! So, America, keep spitting on God
    but you’d better duck when He spits back!! (PS – For a bigger enchilada,
    Google “when DIVERSITY becomes PERVERSITY.”)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Sundberg/100000503691206 Sam Sundberg

    Feb. 3rd: People keep crying ‘discrimination’ re: homosexuals in the Boy Scouts…but the ‘boy’ scouts are for ‘boys’…homosexual boys are like ‘girls’ – it would be like allowing girls into the Boy Scouts…I don’t know whether boy scouts shower together or what but that is putting a whole lot of temptation on a boy who has ‘feelings’ for other boys…I know it’s hard for those boys who are attracted to other boys but…this is an organization for boys…not for those who have ‘feelings’ for boys…and if a man who has ‘feelings’ for boys is permitted to be a Scout Master – young boys would be in danger…it’s just common sense…

  • QuoVadisAnima

    You need to get informed – the Boy Scouts aren’t the Girl Scouts because they have not yet caved on this issue as the GS have & now they are enjoying the “fruits” of that compromise (capitulation). There is no appeasing these people. That was one of the main points of this article. The activists are not interested in the Boy Scouts, per se, they are interested in making it illegal for anyone to say that homosexuality is wrong. This is just one of several steps to getting there.

    Anything that pretends to compromise is only another step along that path (as states who passed same sex “marriage” with religious protections have already learned – it is only window dressing & there will be no protection for religious beliefs contrary to theirs at the end of their rainbow)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eugene-Edward-Yeo/1163041810 Eugene Edward Yeo

    Mr. Murphy, did you read this article?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eugene-Edward-Yeo/1163041810 Eugene Edward Yeo

    The BSA is a civil organization, and thus is not bound by Christian ethics. It does strive for morality, but there are many religious groups which make up the BSA, many of which see no moral issue with homosexuality.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eugene-Edward-Yeo/1163041810 Eugene Edward Yeo

    Ok. If I need to get informed, please tell me what relation you have to the BSA which makes you qualified to educate me. I’ve been involved in scouting since the age of 7, I’m an Eagle Scout, and I’m currently the Assistant Adviser in a Venture Crew. I’ve worked and attended nearly a dozen scout camps, including two national camps at Philmont and Massawepie.

  • QuoVadisAnima

    How is this about who knows more about the BSA?? You don’t have to know anything about the BSA to figure this stuff out. Put your ego down & look again at my post – – it’s more about getting informed re the culture of death wars. I was suggesting that you learn more about the MO of these activists who have already succeeded with the GSA & are trying (have long been trying) to do the same with the Boy Scouts.

    P.S. Your ideas about the Boy Scouts providing positive male role models for boys with homosexual tendencies is also naive. Look at the psychological research done prior to it becoming a political issue & you will realize that it would be the equivalent of trying to do surgery with a bandaid.

  • QuoVadisAnima

    Since all the major religions teach homosexuality to be immoral, I would be fascinated to learn which religious groups you are encountering that do not see it so – or are you simply referring to mainstream Protestant groups who have actually turned their backs on the Bible as well as their original faith to be de facto secular humanists?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eugene-Edward-Yeo/1163041810 Eugene Edward Yeo

    Buddhism and Hinduism do not teach homosexuality to be amoral. You may be shocked to find out that there are more than Abrahamic religions here in the US.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eugene-Edward-Yeo/1163041810 Eugene Edward Yeo

    So the answer would be… no? You have no knowledge?

  • QuoVadisAnima

    So the answer would be perhaps you need a course in logic & reason?

  • QuoVadisAnima

    Not at all, but you may be shocked to find out that there IS a difference between IMmorality and Amorality.

  • JohnE

    I agree that BSA might be a good opportunity for a young man who is experiencing same-sex attraction to develop healthy friendships with other young men and to have strong male role models. But I truly doubt this is the intention of those seeking to change scout policy. Their intention is to allow homosexual acts to be portrayed as something that can be good and moral. The key word is OPEN homosexuality. This openness could be a good thing if one was seeking help in overcoming it or in living chastely, although I would still question whether public discussions of sexual morality have any place in the BSA. But the intention here is to present homosexuality as normal, and therefore homosexual acts as being morally good. That needs to be opposed.

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